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Garza and anybody else who takes pleasure in poking fun at fat people...

Kakdiesel said:
Yeah but trying to make a living in an already competitive superficial field and others constantly ready to tell you that you are too fat and too big anyways, and also the fact that certain girls in her agency constantly made her life hell (i got this story emailed to me by a friend of mine who is in the Wilhelmina agency with a personal message in it about how she knew this would happen)

Got a bit of news for you....... pretty much all fields that there is a significant salary/money to be made are competitive now.


Nice friend.........she new it would happen...... did she try to prevent it from happening?
 
Fuck it and lighten up guys... I think Garza made a good joke, nothing special in this internet world. I have been a lard ass myself and been harrassed about that and I didn't feel offended about Garza's thread. The people who by continuously mocking people cause things like this (the model story) are totally different than Garza.
 
MP5 said:
Feel what way? Just because I believe a person's weight is a choice, not some dreaded disability that they have no control over? I don't have anything against fat people, but I do when they start blaming society for their physical failures and state of mind. I don't know one fat person that eats right and excercises.




D.


You're kind of being an asshole here. After all, you're kind of chunky too, aren't you?


L.
 
depression is a real issue. anyone can get stuck in a downward spiral. Sometimes it is impossible to pull out. If one thinks it is hopeless, and life is worthless, there isn't much keeping them there. She didn't get help in time, and made a bad, permanent solution to a fixable problem.
 
I don't even know what this woman is doing in a discussion about being "fat". Her photograph - she looked perfectly normal and beautiful to me. This so-called "plus" size crap is insane. How small do you have to be to be "plus"? How sad. What a loss.

But it isn't only a size/weight issue, although I'm aware of how women (and men) internalize the ideas of meeting some physical standard. I have always been "normal", but I hated my body when I was younger. Looking back, there was absolutely nothing wrong with me. But I was so depressed because I wasn't what I thought that I should be. I was always very very hard on myself. BUT, I do think that my family and life circumstances played a big part in having those feelings. It wasn't about how I actually looked to other people. It was all about my perception of how I looked to myself. A thousand guys could have told me that I was really something - and it just went in one ear and out the other. Enough about me.

My point is that we can all see that she was lovely and even more important, it doesn't really f*cking matter. Natasha obviously and sadly saw herself as not worth living and, for whatever reasons, we don't really know. But it was more than an issue of weight. That was only a symptom, not the cause.
And it does seem highly unusual that she would take her own life like that.

Kind of off topic, but one of my favorite movies in the world is Muriel's Wedding. If you've seen it, then I think you know what I mean.

XX
 
Shrebly said:
Unless you were fat, are fat or have any close friends who are fat - you will never know the truth behind the matter.

I'll lay it on the line here - and I could care less what little 10th grader happens to think it's funny. I was 300+ pounds in middle school - something I am not proud of in the least. My own family - flesh and blood - used me as the brunt of their jokes. "Give it Shelly, she always has room for more". Know what I got for my 16th birthday? A fucking metal pig feed bucket with my name on it. Yeah, that's got love written all over it. The same poeple that gave me the left overs from Thanksgiving dinner telling me to eat it so it wouldn't go to waste were the same ones that beat me down mentally for the way I looked.

I hooked up with a few guys that were older than me and they showed me around the gym, even then, while I was trying to better myself - people snickered and belittled me. Much like some of you do on a daily basis. The first 20 pounds flew off - words didn't effect me anymore. After losing 100 pounds I told them all to fuck off and die.

So the next time you see someone at a buffet - take a closer look at what they are eatting - maybe they are on a diet and having a salad or trying the low carb diet. I've seen the comments that some people make "I'll never be fat" and "Fat people are lazy". I hate to tell you but there are more fat people than fit people and without those lard asses runn

Hats off to you Shrebly.

I also had a girl friend in High school who was very bright but also
very big. Around 250lbs at the time. People constantly asked me
why on earth I hung out with her since in those times I was
the quintessential athlete and captain of several school teams.
I didn't give a hoot that she was big, I liked her intelligence
and her honesty.
However, I couldn't be everywhere to defend her, and the
I have to say that constant attacks by other people DO TAKE THEIR
toll on ANYBODY.
She eventually broke down and was clinically depressed for
quite some time.
She contemplated suicide quite a few times.
Even her parents were bashing her.
Imagine that. Getting CONSTANTLY attacked at
school, and then coming home and getting
more of the same abuse she got at school.
She later told me that if I hadn't been there she didn't think she
would have made it.

Well, to make a rather long story short, I began to show her
how to eat properly,(None of those magazine type
diets or anything like that), lift weights and do cardio.
I also introduced her to the ECA stack which did
wonders.
People would snicker when they saw her lifting weights, doing
cardio, but as soon as the pounds started coming off,
it was like she was re-born.
It took a while, and a lot of help, but after about 13 months she
got down to 125 at a height of 5"7 with a very respectable
14% BF.
Needless to say, when her senior Year arrived, I don't think I have
been more proud of anybody in my life. She didn't insult
people that had insulted her for years, she didn't act like
she was "hot"(She was quite attractive), she was just
her old self, and I think that stung the people who had
harrassed her for years even more than if she would
have told them all to go to hell(Which she woud have been more
than entitled to do)
Guys in my teams, who had constantly harrassed her,
were asking me if I could set them up with her.....LOL
Needless to say I told them that that really wasn't
a possibility.

She went through hell, and I do mean HELL because
of IMMATURE HS kids.

I really wish people(and parents) would look past
somebodies surface, and see whats really inside.


Godspeed
 
MP5 said:
You all can suck it if you are pissed at me. Ever see a fat person in the German concentration camps? No? That is what I thought. The reason? Because they burned more calories than they took in. It is scientifically impossible to gain weight if you burn more than you eat. By the way, I have some fat friends, but their weight is their problem. they could hit the gym with me every night if they wanted but they choose to lay around and watch tv while eating crap. if you guys all feel a certain way about yourself based on society then you are fucked in the head too.

Burned more calories than they took in? Hummm... lets look at the diet... bread, water, watered down soup. Yeah, add into the fact they they worked in brick yards, dug mass graves for their own people and other various random tasks for up to 14 hours a day.

Before you go spouting off "facts" try getting them right first.

And while you are at it .. translate this for me...

By the way, I have some fat friends, but their weight is their problem
 
The Varnsen said:
Shrebly now i see... that "I" Varnsen am a complete piece of grabastic amphibian shit.:
In other words...kindly crawl back into the hole in the wall that you came out of.....and leave.

"YOU: undestand two things...Jack and shit, and jack just left town.
 
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