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Gained 16 lbs in 6 weeks with 1-TU and Vitargo

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Testoman

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Anybody who has ever read my posts knows that I never was a big supporter of supplements because most of them do jack sh%$. However, I have to admit that I was totally surprised by the results I got from talking this 1-TU with Vitargo CGL by a company called Nutrex. By the end of my 6 week cycle I had gained a solid 16 lbs and I even appear to look a bit leaner now. In case someone is interested, here's how my cycle went.

week 1: 2 gelcaps of 1-TU/day, 2 servings Vitargo-CGL/day
week 2: 3 gelcaps of 1-Tu/day, 2 servings Vitargo/day
week 3: 3 gelcaps of 1-TU/day, 2 servings Vitargo/day
week 4: 3 gelcaps of 1-TU/day, 1 serving Vitargo/day
week 5: 3 gelcaps of 1-TU/day, 1 serving Vitargo/day
week 6: 2 gelcaps of 1-TU/day, 1 serving Vitargo/day

During weeks 5&6 I added Tribex 500 to the mix to support my own natural T production and to keep my nuts 'healthy'.

Right now I continue with just 1 serving of Vitargo per day and I am still using the Tribex 500 to hopefully retain as much size as possible.


Testoman
 
Congratulations! Sounds like you made some serious improvements. Can you post a link where I can find more info on this stuff and possibly order it? Thanks.

MassiveRuby
:fro::p ;) :D :) :rolleyes: :alien: :angel: :fro: :D
 
MassiveRuby said:
Congratulations! Sounds like you made some serious improvements. Can you post a link where I can find more info on this stuff and possibly order it? Thanks.

MassiveRuby
:fro::p ;) :D :) :rolleyes: :alien: :angel: :fro: :D
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I ordered 1-TU and Vitargo CGL through www.netrition.com

I was especially intrigued by the idea of consuming a creatine product that contains a high molecular weight carbohydrate as a carrier instead of sugars like dextrose. IMHO this formula is much superior to Celltech. If you need more info go to www.nutrex.com


Testoman
 
Does anyone else have an opinion on this Vitargo stuff? I was reading the info on it a while ago and I also like (love) that there's no damn sugar in it. I'd like to hear some more opinions, however.
 
40butpumpin said:
Does anyone else have an opinion on this Vitargo stuff? I was reading the info on it a while ago and I also like (love) that there's no damn sugar in it. I'd like to hear some more opinions, however.
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you will find some very useful information on www.vitargo.com

since this is a swedish site you must click on the british flagg (icon) to go to the english text.
that's how I first stumbled upon vitargo and realized it's a much better carbohydrate than dextrose or maltodextrin, especially when it comes to post-workout supplementation.

Testoman
 
Does the vitargo spike insulin levels...even though it's sugar free?

If so, wouldn't the spike in insulin possibly cause increased boadyfat?
 
~ThaGame~ said:
that vitargo shit always seemed to clump out.
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yep,
mine too if i didn't mix it thoroughly enough. i was told that this is due to the complex molecular structure of the starchy base carbohydrate. on the other hand, this is also a sign of quality i guess, since you will immediately know if you have a real starchy carb or just a simple sugar. talk about a 2 way street.
 
JG1 said:
Does the vitargo spike insulin levels...even though it's sugar free?

If so, wouldn't the spike in insulin possibly cause increased boadyfat?
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Vitargo does spike insulin levels and it does so in a very powerful way. If I don't eat anything within 45 minutes I get light headed because my blood sugar level seems to crash. I think the reason why I didn't gain any bodyfat from Vitargo is, that this high molecular starch is filling up muscular glyocgen stores much more effectively than dextrose does, hence less carbs will be stored as fat, especially when consumed after a workout.

Testoman
 
Testoman said:


Vitargo does spike insulin levels and it does so in a very powerful way. If I don't eat anything within 45 minutes I get light headed because my blood sugar level seems to crash. I think the reason why I didn't gain any bodyfat from Vitargo is, that this high molecular starch is filling up muscular glyocgen stores much more effectively than dextrose does, hence less carbs will be stored as fat, especially when consumed after a workout.

Testoman
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Please explain to me how this product is supposed to be a high MW low glycemic index carbohydrate yet it can spike insulin levels in a powerful way???

Low glycemic by its very definition means it has a low insulinogenic response.
 
Low glycemic by its very definition means it has a low insulinogenic response. [/B][/QUOTE]


where did i say that it is low glycemic?

why don't you read the information on www.vitargo.com
this is the site of the swedish patent holders.
 
Hey bro so have you maintained most of your gains and strength. I am thinking of jumping from 1-ad to this product and give them a try.

I have great success with 1-AD, maybe I will continue to stick with them. Just curious to know how you are doing.

Greatly appreciated.
 
So far so good. I've only lost 2 pounds and pretty much look the same as I did when I was done with my cycle. I still take 1 serv. of Vitargo CgL per day, which must have contributed to retaining my size. I believe that the extra creatine and glycogen keeps my muscles well hydrated and thus preserves the full look. I've just run out of the Tribex though.

Testoman
 
I am on 30 mg of the new 10mg Oxandrin by BTG, and stacking it with The poppers 150 , by pinnacle.Good results ,,will try the TU gels next...going to run the ox for 9 weeks..
 
Rogue Warrior said:
Did the TU-1 shut down sex drive? I know AD-1 did for me. I'm wondering if TU-1 would do the same thing.
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i don't wanna go so far and say that 1-TU shut down my sex drive but there was a noticable decrease. however, implementing the Tribex-500 definitely helped to normalize the situation. in retrospect i have to say it would have been ideal to start Tribex already in week 3&4 instead of waiting until week 5.
 
i usually get my supps from www.netrition.com

Tribex 500 is a very good product IMHO because it tells you the % of protodioscin it contains, which is between 10-11%.

I suggest that you take 1 capsule 3 times per day. if you got the cash then go with 2 caps 3 times per day for optimum results.

hey, don't i sound like a biotest sales rep...

Testoman
 
It looks to me like 1-tu is pretty much 1-ad and 1-test. look at the bottle it says

5-androst-1-ene-3-one-B-undecanoate = 1-tu
17beta-Hydroxy-5alpha-Androst-1-ene-3-one propylcarbonate = Vpx's 1-test

Thats basically 1-test or 1-ad. Slightly different and in a capsule with sesame oil/oleic acid gel cap. Not saying is does't work but prally same effects of 1-test 1-ad. So for 1-ad/1-test users, switching to this is pretty much going for the same thing isn't it?

Scaggs
 
Testoman,

I finally get my shippment today. I will try your cycle that you posted and see what happens. I will continue to take Vitargo throughout and after my cycle. You are right I think this product helps maintain your gains and strength.

What about your diet? How much protein were you taking along with carbs. Thanks for your time.
 
Good post testoman, I've been looking for a while which 1-test to take. How many bottles did you have to buy for six weeks though?
 
christ said:
Good post testoman, I've been looking for a while which 1-test to take. How many bottles did you have to buy for six weeks though?
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I bought two bottles. Had about 10 pills left after my cycle.
 
2KVetteMan said:
Testoman,

I finally get my shippment today. I will try your cycle that you posted and see what happens. I will continue to take Vitargo throughout and after my cycle. You are right I think this product helps maintain your gains and strength.

What about your diet? How much protein were you taking along with carbs. Thanks for your time.
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I generally eat 4 times a day. Each meal is approx. 800-900 calories (not counting the Vitargo calories!). I would say that I have about 60-70g of protein per meal. What I don't like is snacking and having little MRP's all day long. I don't take any protein powders. I believe in eating REAL food. For protein it's ground beef patties, whole eggs, cheese (munster cheese is my favorite), medium fat milk. I always try to eat protein sources which contain a moderate amount of fat. I have discovered for myself that I grow best when I eat a diet rich in animal protein AND animal fats. I estimate my total daily fat intake at around 120g. The remainder of my calories come from oatmeal, bread (sandwiches), rice and noodles.

Testoman
 
Thanks for the post. Started this morning on the powder and took the pill this morning as well.

I am going to order another bottle of Vitargo, this will only last for a while compare to 1-TU. massnutrition.com is the cheapest of all the websites I have found. Cost $90.00 for 1-tu and Vitargo, that includes shipping.

I also believe in eating whole foods for my source of protein and carbs.
 
Rogue Warrior said:
What is the problem you guys have with protein powder?
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from personal experience i can honestly say, that i make better progress, ie. more gains, when i choose beef, medium fat cheese, whole eggs etc for my main protein source. I never noticed any significant gains while using protein powders. in my case, it seems to be imperative to eat animal proteins that are also moderately high in fat. whey protein mixed in water doesn't fit this bill. i suspect that many athletes compromise their results by not consuming enough real food. IMHO, whey protein for instance, is nothing but a gimmick shoved down our gullible throats by the greedy supp industry.
 
I certainly wouldn't go so far as to say whey protein is a "gimmick", I mean, the serving contents are posted on the bottle and whey powder is a quick and convenient means of ingesting protein content.

But if you prefer the taste and intangibles of "real" food, I can't argue with that.

To each his own, I guess...
 
dyckie said:
I certainly wouldn't go so far as to say whey protein is a "gimmick", I mean, the serving contents are posted on the bottle and whey powder is a quick and convenient means of ingesting protein content.

But if you prefer the taste and intangibles of "real" food, I can't argue with that.

To each his own, I guess...
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i call whey protein a gimmick because its usefulness is completely blown out of proportion by the supp industry. for me personally, whey protein pales in comparison to beef etc. when it comes to building muscle. again, this is my own personal observation, but i am sure that i am not an exception.
 
I think 95% of supplements are blown out of proportion and thats being conservative.

Your body is going to do the same thing with protein as long as its from a bioavailable source. The highest being the egg. Do to high temperature of cooking some of this protein downgrades along with vitamins and minerals unless you down your eggs Rocky style.

I use protein powder and MRP's the same way, as part of a meal. This involves mixture of flax seed oil and addition of some carb source.

I don't know what your protein powder choice was in the past, but I would suspect you are getting better gains off whole food due to more calories.
 
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