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FXck RDC!

Anybody who Knows me or has read my posts knows Im long winded, So you may have to follow along-there will be a moral to this story.

First off, Im by no means trying to influence ANYONE on this board not to do business with RDC. I cant stress that enough! What I am getting at is his piss poor attitude in which he treats equipment buying customers! While I realise I am a nobody in the powerlifting world(gimme time, this may change), I am a paying customer who works hard for the extra money I have to spend on non-essential items. When I do regular business with someone, I would like to know that my business is appreciated even a little.

In the past three years, I have done quite a bit of business with him. I have purchased the Westside Videos,Pl USA videos, deadlift suits, wrist and knee wraps, belts, magazines, bands, various shirts, books, supplements, etc. If you've been around the sport any amount of time-you know roughly what the cost of these items are.
I once ordered a half squat suit(trainer brief). I was charged for a single ply, but actually got a double ply, and when I realised the mistake had been made, and went to pay for the differencethe next time I was in, RDC actually had the nerve to argue with me that they hadnt made a mistake, that I didnt know what the difference in single and double ply was. WTF- I wasnt tring to return the product, just make good on the mistake the dingbat who filled the order made.

I've had about the same experience with getting fitted for a bench shirt. I have ordered a couple of shirts and never has he been anywhere close on the sizing. I had 2 veteran lifters(both in the 250 lb weight rancge)stuff me in a shirt he sent me. It was a single ply blast shirt, and with them spotting me, I couldnt get 405 to even touch. My wife called him to ask him on the sizing, and he proceeded to tell her we didnt know what we were doing. He said if we can get it on, its the right size. Tell me Mr.RDC-If you cant lockout a weight that it takes to touch your chest, what F'n good is the shirt anyway.

So-I had two shirts he wouldnt let me return.

Which brings me to last week. Seeing I already had the Half Trainer Suit, I had a pretty good Idea what I wanted in power briefs and a new squat suit. I called him and told him what briefs I needed and that I would be by to pick them up Friday. I had to call him back after he checked inventory on what I ASKED FOR. He did not have what I wanted, and instead tried to sell me what he had in stock-No where near the size I asked for. After halfway backing down to him on the size I would take, he asked me what organization I lifted In.

I told him INSA to which he sarcastically replied"what in the world is that". I proceeded to tell him It was a new organization around the Dallas area. He again sarcastically replied"Oh yeah, thats Kirks little meets," At this point I became furiuos!!

==Note to lifters==I AM BY NOW MEANS SLAMMING ANY ORGANIZATION IN MY NEXT PARAGRAPH==

If the USPF =which RDC supports= is such a strong organization, then WHY THE FUCK do they have to run there meets together with Texas, or run them together with the APF. I absolutely took offense to his comment. I've said before, that I drive to Texas to compete because of strict and fair judging(Two things that are uncommon in MOST OK meets)--AGAIN, IM BY NO MEANS FED BASHING!! If you feel your Org or promoter does good by you, support them, and tell them once in awhile you appreciate them.

As you can tell, I am FINISHED with RDC. I will throw money in the ditch before I give it to him. Dont worry RDC-I wont take up anymore of your valuable internet time when Im in there by forcing you to take my money! You just go back to your cubicle and wait for Ed Caon or somebody important to come in. This Is a real shame too, because I think you have the best Squat and deadlift suits in the business. But dont worry about me being unhappy. Im sure I can scrape around and find someone to sell me a new squat suit, all new wraps, a new benchshirt for my wife, supplements, etc. You just go back to the GoHeavy forum or whatever you were doing.

Now with the moral(Finally, I know). I would like to take the chane to encourage everybody to give our PL Gear dollars to people who appreciate it. Support those who support the meets!
I know everybody says they call INZER or TITAN and order there gear direct, but heres my opinion. Try doing business with the likes of MonsterMuscle or HouseOfPain. Who cares if it costs a buck or two more, the major suppliers will still get their money, and you will be helping the middlemen who support our shows . I personally will spend my next dollars with Rick Brewer from HOP. I have had the pleasure of meeting him at a couple of contests, and he has been nothing but generous in giving me advice when I was a raw rook in this sport. We need to show our support to the people who care about advancing the sport-Not those with other motives.

Damn-glad I got that off my chest!
Dont hate me for my opinion, but maybe learn something from it.


Later..
 
Speaking of RDC...ask IRISH about the bar he TRIED to order.
 
what can i say...fuck em. some people like to wear the badge and parade around like their a badass. whatever...that's just the way it is. just don't order from him again. there are plenty of companies that want your business. you have several to choose from like you said. it's not just you that doesn't like doing business with him. there are some top dogs that give the same review of service. it's definately not the way i would do business if i wanted someone to buy from me. i'd want you to look forward to buying your next item.
 
The link to this post has been forwarded to RDC's Sales and Services department. Perhaps a response will be forthcoming. It is only right that the man be given the opportunity to respond to this post.

As for his lifts, I always find it difficult to call depth from a video recording. At the end of the day the lift was passed......
 
I just cannot understand why it took you so many times to get screwed before you realized to look elsewhere. Personally I think the people at INZER are absolutely phenomenal, I mean you can take a dump in your Groove Brief and they'd let you return it.

Mike
 
yeah, the inzer people are pretty damn good. i had called up w/ like a 200$ order, and they told me it'd be about 1-2 weeks, and then 3 days later sitting on my door step is my package.
 
VDOP,

I feel your pain bro. Getting fitted properly is tough, then having someone treat you bad is worse still.

Just order from Titan, and be prepared for an insanely long wait, or order from Inzer if you like their equipment.

Or better yet, order from Karin, and get actual Custom fit to you equipment.

Frantz also makes good stuff. Lots of options now a days. Be thankful Inzer is not the only game around besides RDC too.

And guys, lay off the high squats, OK? RDC did 800 @ 165, and it got enough white lights. It is not the lifter's fault that the lift got the lights. I have seen world record benches (recently) that the lifter did not get his elbows locked, but he got the whites. If it counted in a meet, then it is a good lift.

B.
 
Hey guys-lets not slam the man for his lifts. I think he is a bad MOFO on the platform, just somewhat ofa POS in dealing with customer related problems.

Hey IMNOTDUTCH- I still havent decided if I should thank you or tell you to fuck off for forwarding this link. Maybe it wasnt right of me to post what I did. But I did chose to post it here instead of GoHeavy or his board somewhat out of fairness to him. I will gladly debate this with him via personal E-mail, but not over the phone, so I have the opportunity to keep my cool, and not resort to a childish level. I will bak my opinion 100% on this issue.<<As you can tell, once I am pissed I get pretty worked up<<

Thank you guys for not taking this post as fed-bashing. I think we should all lift and support oraganizations and promoters who are good, NO MATTER WHAT THE FUCKING LETTERS OF THE ORG ARE!!!

I think the thing that really pissed me the most is Im absolutely in love with the damn genesis gear. Like I said though, I will find somebody else who wants to take my money.


PS-Can anybody reccomend a good squat suit?:D
 
Deciever1 said:
i've heard philips canvas is better.

As far as Canvas goes...I have heard that Phillips is much better. I have a Frantz Canvas, a friend is sending me, on the way...just to see if I like canvas in general. If I like it then I will definitely invest in a Phillips.
 
Philips is asmall brand, correcT? I heard the westside guys talking about it on "ask dave".

I also wanna know what daves new move "porkin da bitches" is... anyone know?
 
i don't know about the philips but the frantz canvas suit is what alot of the big guys are using. several 1000+ squats have been in the frantz so just out of the air i'm gonna guess it works. dave said it was like "cheat suit". i wouldn't go with the inzer suits if you're planning that route.
 
Deciever1 said:
I also wanna know what daves new move "porkin da bitches" is... anyone know?

Yeah I am curious if it is a real exercise....or just Dave having some fun with everyone.
 
Vulgar_Display_Of_Power said:
Hey IMNOTDUTCH- I still havent decided if I should thank you or tell you to fuck off for forwarding this link. Maybe it wasnt right of me to post what I did. But I did chose to post it here instead of GoHeavy or his board somewhat out of fairness to him. I will gladly debate this with him via personal E-mail, but not over the phone, so I have the opportunity to keep my cool, and not resort to a childish level. I will bak my opinion 100% on this issue.<<As you can tell, once I am pissed I get pretty worked up<<

VDOP,

In your position I wouldn't know how to respond either. I was not trying to piss anybody off......I just happen to believe that everybody has a right to respond to criticism directed at them. If the roles were reversed, and you were being criticised, I would do the same for you without question.

Good luck in sorting this out.
 
Damn, today must be bash Inzer and RDC day!
Here is a link to someone pissed at Inzer:
http://forum.onecenter.com/cgi-bin/forum/forum.cgi?c=msg&fid=gpower&mid=23527

I learned my lesson from RDC and INZER! ! !

So guess who sponsors me now, HOP! ! !
That's right www.houseofpainironwear.com
I personally know Rick Brewer and he invited me to his factory next week! !! I am going to see all his equipment and purchase some at discounted rate! ! !
HOP is a good, prestigous, and reliable, not to mention, friendly company. I was tired of going the actual companies so I went to the middleman, HOP, and now I have a certain type of sponsorship, not full one yet , but I will be soon.

Give HOP a try, you won't be disappointed! ! ! :)

LL
 
Hey IMNOTDUTCH-

Thank you for being understanding with my comments to you. I appreciate the fact you were cool enough not to bash me with my remarks I made toward you. I thank you nowfor sending this link to RDC. I should have done it in thefirst place. I guess by him not responding yet really show his commitment to customer service.

Hey Latin and Heavywear- I agree with your opinion of Rick Brewer 100%. My parents went to my first contest, and were there while I was talking to Rick. After he left, they asked me who he was and If I knew him. I told them I didnt, just knew he was because of his article and clothing line. They then agreed he seemed like a genuine kinda guy. This is before I had even spent any money with him. My opinion is RDC should take a little lesson from people like him-If your not in this business to make people happy, there are plenty of factory jobs in Oklahoma that dont require human contact.

Latin-what fed do you lift in.

Thanks for everbodys support, and in keeping this a mature discussion(well, except for me at least!)

Later..
 
Vulgar, I lift for the WABDL! ! ! I just came back from the Nationals in Houston!
I will be competing at the INSA World Championships October 26, 2002.

Who do you lift for???
 
latinlifter - where are you lifting currently? it says you're in the dallas area. i just wonder what gym you're at.
 
I definately agree on "his" costumer service sucking ass, but if you like his equipment like I do also, ask to talk to kim(his wife). Not only will you get better service it also pisses him off. I have lifted in his meets for 10 yrs. and some times he can be a rude ass, but the next time he's nice as hell. On the fed bashing, he was the okla. USPF state rep while competing APF/WPC and IPA.
 
Hey latin-

I plan on lifting in the 220's. I have enough fat on me I could go down to 198's, but being on the road all the time cuts into my training time, so extra time for cardio isout of the question. Besides, I feel stronger and more confident at this weight, so why mess with it.

Later..
 
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