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Clomid and Frequent Masturbation. I think why I got slammed was I ran Tren for 6 weeks after Sustanon had cleared my system, I shoulda hit some HCG up also...but I had some personal shit that tangled me up for a while so I didn't have any cash.
I just ordered Avena Sativa, hopefully that will help.
I just ordered Avena Sativa, hopefully that will help.
It Took 20 Years To Figure This Out
This is a training tip, but I'm posting here because...well, everybody's here and everybody here trains. So...
WANT BIGGER BICEPS? DO'S and DON'TS.
After a lifetime of using every conceivable curling movement it finally occured to me (about 2 years ago) that anytime the elbow is positioned in front of the body, it is less effective than when the elbow is paralell or, preferably, behind the body. So why do any other curl? This is what I mean:
Do a curl on a preacher bench. Once the forearm is at a 90 degree angle, there is no longer stress on the bicep. You can feel it. The muscle will be relaxed since there is no gravitational force on it. You are missing out on the peak contraction on the movement. The reacher curl essentially works the brachaialus.
Okay, how about a concentration curl where the tension is continual throughout the movement? Still no good. The arm is braced against a pad or your leg and it will allow leverage -- once again reducing the muscle building process.
Allrighty then. How about NOT bracing it and just doing concentration curls free style? (ala' Aah-nuld in Pumping Iron) Nope, it's still less effecaceous because now the deltoid will assist. You can fell that too. The shoulder will be tensed throughout the movement.
Only when the leverage and the deltoid are removed from the equation can the bicep work completely. That makes steep incline curls the ultimate biceps builder. (As a matter of fact, Steve Reeves did ONLY incline curls for biceps and I think he knew something a lot of us didn't). When doing standing barbell curls, the elbows must stay BACK in order to utilize the complete range of motion for the biceps. Of course, you can't lift as much, because it's harder -- but that's the idea. You want to impress the guy next to you, or do you want to grow?
There are a few other tricks, but I'll save that for another time.
Sure, there will always be the guy who just throws around some barbell curls with lousy form and has killer guns. (Aaron Maddron told me his arms went to 19" after 6 months of training, the rat bastard.) But that's not me, and I'll bet it's not a lot of you. If you haven't been getting the most from your bicep workouts, keep this rule in mind. After a while you'll realize, anytime the elbow is forwrd, it's a "half" a curl.
It took most of my training life to realize what is basically a simple law of physics.
This is a training tip, but I'm posting here because...well, everybody's here and everybody here trains. So...
WANT BIGGER BICEPS? DO'S and DON'TS.
After a lifetime of using every conceivable curling movement it finally occured to me (about 2 years ago) that anytime the elbow is positioned in front of the body, it is less effective than when the elbow is paralell or, preferably, behind the body. So why do any other curl? This is what I mean:
Do a curl on a preacher bench. Once the forearm is at a 90 degree angle, there is no longer stress on the bicep. You can feel it. The muscle will be relaxed since there is no gravitational force on it. You are missing out on the peak contraction on the movement. The reacher curl essentially works the brachaialus.
Okay, how about a concentration curl where the tension is continual throughout the movement? Still no good. The arm is braced against a pad or your leg and it will allow leverage -- once again reducing the muscle building process.
Allrighty then. How about NOT bracing it and just doing concentration curls free style? (ala' Aah-nuld in Pumping Iron) Nope, it's still less effecaceous because now the deltoid will assist. You can fell that too. The shoulder will be tensed throughout the movement.
Only when the leverage and the deltoid are removed from the equation can the bicep work completely. That makes steep incline curls the ultimate biceps builder. (As a matter of fact, Steve Reeves did ONLY incline curls for biceps and I think he knew something a lot of us didn't). When doing standing barbell curls, the elbows must stay BACK in order to utilize the complete range of motion for the biceps. Of course, you can't lift as much, because it's harder -- but that's the idea. You want to impress the guy next to you, or do you want to grow?
There are a few other tricks, but I'll save that for another time.
Sure, there will always be the guy who just throws around some barbell curls with lousy form and has killer guns. (Aaron Maddron told me his arms went to 19" after 6 months of training, the rat bastard.) But that's not me, and I'll bet it's not a lot of you. If you haven't been getting the most from your bicep workouts, keep this rule in mind. After a while you'll realize, anytime the elbow is forwrd, it's a "half" a curl.
It took most of my training life to realize what is basically a simple law of physics.
J
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Nelson...
How much does your book costs?
How much does your book costs?
Paulos said:Sust 500mg 1-10
EQ 400mg 1-10
Finaplix 8-16 (Tossed it in at the end...was great up until about the last week)
Ox...Low blow. Ass.
Your sex drive got killed with that much test during cycle or did you experience the loss of sex drive post cycle?
8-16 means you ate the pellets or you run it from week 8 to 16?
What did you run post cycle?
-sk
I ran Clomid @ 300mg, 100mg for 10, 50mg for 10 after I came off of Tren. I just start working again tomorrow so I gotta get paid before I can get any HCG or anything.
Shoulda clarified, Injected Tren @ 75mg/ED.
Sex Drive got killed about three weeks before I stopped Tren....right when the Sust left my system.
Shoulda clarified, Injected Tren @ 75mg/ED.
Sex Drive got killed about three weeks before I stopped Tren....right when the Sust left my system.
Paulos said:
Do anything to get money, borrow from a friend or something and get the following:
1. HCG, enough to run 500iu eod for 2-3weeks.
2. More clomid, run 100mg for a couple days than 50mg for another 2-3weeks.
3. Get some nolva, run it 20mg for 2-3weeks.
4. Maybe even some proviron, although not sure if I would do it as its hpta supressive properties are unclear to me.
That's what I would do anyway. I imagine you have lost a lot of strength and size since your hpta is still dead.
-sk
_Yossarian_
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Paulos said:
LOL
sk* said:
Do anything to get money, borrow from a friend or something and get the following:
1. HCG, enough to run 500iu eod for 2-3weeks.
2. More clomid, run 100mg for a couple days than 50mg for another 2-3weeks.
3. Get some nolva, run it 20mg for 2-3weeks.
4. Maybe even some proviron, although not sure if I would do it as its hpta supressive properties are unclear to me.
That's what I would do anyway. I imagine you have lost a lot of strength and size since your hpta is still dead.
-sk
Yeah the strength thing is kinda starting to fuck with me psychologically but I'm not gonna sweat it too much, My bench dropped from 385 to 365, could have been worse. I can't use proviron because of my hair, but I'll give the other shit a shot.
F
Frackal
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Get some vitex bro...take around 2-6 grams daily... get maca as well.
F
Frackal
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At gnc it's fairly costly...I think around 25.00 for standardized
Vites increases progesterone. Why the hell would he want to do THAT?! That's the CAUSE of his problem.
(By the way, so does P-Seven)
Paulos. Get some viagra and take it with arginine for" functional' purposes. Proviron to help your hormones. Use the maca. epimedium and Avena for libido. Rent Andrew Blakes "Pin-Ups II" You'll be up and running in no time.
And in the future, stay away from fina!!!
(By the way, so does P-Seven)
Paulos. Get some viagra and take it with arginine for" functional' purposes. Proviron to help your hormones. Use the maca. epimedium and Avena for libido. Rent Andrew Blakes "Pin-Ups II" You'll be up and running in no time.
And in the future, stay away from fina!!!
nuh_mizer
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Re: It Took 20 Years To Figure This Out
Nelson, I have to agree about the elbow being behind the body (Slightly behind). I had to start doing standing dumbell curls like that because it was less stress on my injured shoulder. However I bet most people who do the incline bench technique will still do them wrong and push there elbows forward during the movement. The elbows may still be behind the body, but the upper arm will still be at the same angle as if they were doing them standing. That would still put stress on the delts. I guess the only reason I mention it is that people will try it and think that's all they have to do to do it right, but still be doing it wrong unless they pay attention to their form.
Nelson Montana said:
Nelson, I have to agree about the elbow being behind the body (Slightly behind). I had to start doing standing dumbell curls like that because it was less stress on my injured shoulder. However I bet most people who do the incline bench technique will still do them wrong and push there elbows forward during the movement. The elbows may still be behind the body, but the upper arm will still be at the same angle as if they were doing them standing. That would still put stress on the delts. I guess the only reason I mention it is that people will try it and think that's all they have to do to do it right, but still be doing it wrong unless they pay attention to their form.
macrophage69alpha
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vitex does not increase progesterone (it can contain progesterone though.. how bioavailable???)
macrophage69alpha
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Nelson Montana said:
nelson,
mantra for the day... progesterone and progestins are not the same...
progesterone improves libido (progestins can, as some BCP, do in individuals.. however most of them are suppressive due to different non genomic binding or differential genomic transcription)
macrophage69alpha
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Paulos said:
as expected
Paulos: If that's the case, why do have this problem?
I'm not trying to bust balls here, I'm just not getting how P-seven, which contains pregnalone, which is a precurssor to progersterone can help libido and reduce anxiety. It just doesn't add up. Maybe I'm missing something. I'm willing to admit that. macro: Do you sell this stuff?
Vitex has also been used for ages as a sexual suppresant. (yes, folks, there are cultures that think libido is a bad thing. I'll leave it to you to figure out how they are.)
I'm not trying to bust balls here, I'm just not getting how P-seven, which contains pregnalone, which is a precurssor to progersterone can help libido and reduce anxiety. It just doesn't add up. Maybe I'm missing something. I'm willing to admit that. macro: Do you sell this stuff?
Vitex has also been used for ages as a sexual suppresant. (yes, folks, there are cultures that think libido is a bad thing. I'll leave it to you to figure out how they are.)
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Nelson:
I am not going to even pretend I am in the same league as you two, so I will simply put what I noticed.
Wednesday - I had not gotten wood without having to manually stimulate my penis since Sustanon had cleared my system. I had not had ANY sexual desires for a good month, I am 19 and used to masturbating once a day, and while I was on test It was so bad that I was actually looking at women and thinking things like "Well, she's 50, has 3 kids, and no teeth, and a weight problem, but what the hell". So needless to say my Libido had a severe crash.
I got my AF package and free trial of P7 and tried the recommended dose of P7 that day.
Thursday Morning - Woke up with boner for the first time in a month. There had been no change with my routine other than P7 and Glucorell-R.
My Libido has been raised and I am back to wanting to get laid. My problem now is that I'm still sporting the floppy wang. I can get wood, It just isn't the pristine quality of boner that it should be.
I am not going to even pretend I am in the same league as you two, so I will simply put what I noticed.
Wednesday - I had not gotten wood without having to manually stimulate my penis since Sustanon had cleared my system. I had not had ANY sexual desires for a good month, I am 19 and used to masturbating once a day, and while I was on test It was so bad that I was actually looking at women and thinking things like "Well, she's 50, has 3 kids, and no teeth, and a weight problem, but what the hell". So needless to say my Libido had a severe crash.
I got my AF package and free trial of P7 and tried the recommended dose of P7 that day.
Thursday Morning - Woke up with boner for the first time in a month. There had been no change with my routine other than P7 and Glucorell-R.
My Libido has been raised and I am back to wanting to get laid. My problem now is that I'm still sporting the floppy wang. I can get wood, It just isn't the pristine quality of boner that it should be.
By the way, I am not close friends with Macro, Utler, or any of the other AF people so I have no reason to do anything but tell the truth.
I have no idea why it works as it is far beyond my understanding to this point, so I'll let you two hash it out.
Either way when my P7 Trial runs out I will be ordering more.
I have no idea why it works as it is far beyond my understanding to this point, so I'll let you two hash it out.
Either way when my P7 Trial runs out I will be ordering more.
You fucked the fat 50 year old with no teeth too!?!
Seriously, hormones are a funny thing. And an increase in progesterone , or estrogen, can increase libido temporarily. This is why people were reporting increased libido n prohormones, but a week later ... limp noodle dick. As a matter of fact, one of the reasons don't like anti-e's is beacuse they can lower extrogen too much which in turn, kills libido. Lowering DHT with Saw Palmetto can kill libido. So it isn't all about T.
Be that as it may, you need to balance out. The herbs suggested will help. But just as important, is what you DON"T take.
Maybe P-seven is great. I'm still going to hold off a while. Right now, my libido is raging and I don't want to mess with it.
BTW;Your morning wood may have come around on its own. Hard to say.
You'll be fine -- in time. It's a horrible feeling, but you'll recoup. If rigidity is the only problem, Tribulus and Xanthoparmilia will work wonders.
I've warned people about fina countless times, but I'll be damned if I don't get people defending it every time.
Seriously, hormones are a funny thing. And an increase in progesterone , or estrogen, can increase libido temporarily. This is why people were reporting increased libido n prohormones, but a week later ... limp noodle dick. As a matter of fact, one of the reasons don't like anti-e's is beacuse they can lower extrogen too much which in turn, kills libido. Lowering DHT with Saw Palmetto can kill libido. So it isn't all about T.
Be that as it may, you need to balance out. The herbs suggested will help. But just as important, is what you DON"T take.
Maybe P-seven is great. I'm still going to hold off a while. Right now, my libido is raging and I don't want to mess with it.
BTW;Your morning wood may have come around on its own. Hard to say.
You'll be fine -- in time. It's a horrible feeling, but you'll recoup. If rigidity is the only problem, Tribulus and Xanthoparmilia will work wonders.
I've warned people about fina countless times, but I'll be damned if I don't get people defending it every time.
I am not planning on using Fina ever again, I assume it was Fina that was so harsh on my hair because I had zero to no hairloss on 500mg of test alone for a good 13 weeks...
I was not even planning on throwing it in, but I remember a quote that goes something like this "EQ is Great, but Fina is godly. Fina will do to your body in 6 weeks what EQ would do in 15". Don't remember who said it.
I just decided to throw it in near the end, and I have to say the gains were amazing, especially the strength (nothing boosts your ego quite like the entire gym watching you lift), but the sides were just too much, worst being hair, then the Fina dick (my own fault shoulda ran test past it and used HCG), but also I believe I went into Anaphylactic Shock twice.
Honestly I had no business using it in the first place, I am admittedly too young and too inexperienced with AAS to use something as strong as Finaplix on a first cycle. Furthermore I have never had a problem gaining mass, so the lighter steroids would better suit my purposes fine. My desire for instant results just overthrew my judgement I suppose.
But live and learn, right?
And no, I didn't fuck the fat 50 year old with no teeth.
She just gave me head.
I was not even planning on throwing it in, but I remember a quote that goes something like this "EQ is Great, but Fina is godly. Fina will do to your body in 6 weeks what EQ would do in 15". Don't remember who said it.
I just decided to throw it in near the end, and I have to say the gains were amazing, especially the strength (nothing boosts your ego quite like the entire gym watching you lift), but the sides were just too much, worst being hair, then the Fina dick (my own fault shoulda ran test past it and used HCG), but also I believe I went into Anaphylactic Shock twice.
Honestly I had no business using it in the first place, I am admittedly too young and too inexperienced with AAS to use something as strong as Finaplix on a first cycle. Furthermore I have never had a problem gaining mass, so the lighter steroids would better suit my purposes fine. My desire for instant results just overthrew my judgement I suppose.
But live and learn, right?
And no, I didn't fuck the fat 50 year old with no teeth.
She just gave me head.
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