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one wonders if the solvents used may play a role in immunosuppression?
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ryker77
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Thats suck to hear your about your bad luck.
My bad luck in the last 4 years -- three hernia surgeries and one bike crash. Each time I get shot down from 205ish down to 170ish. I spend and ass load of time reading about AS while recovering. Then spend alot of money to have a great cycle. So far I've stocked up three halo kits, one case of fina, 400 dbols, 6 vials enanthate, 2 vials BL TP2, humalog couple cases of pins and plenty of clomid and nolvadex thats just so far plan on having 40ml of suspension and 60ml EQ and a clen pump.
If after all this stuff and the 110% effort I'm putting forth if I have anymore bad luck then I might just have to back off a little.
Best of luck getting better... Hopefully both of us can have a few years without bad luck!!!
My bad luck in the last 4 years -- three hernia surgeries and one bike crash. Each time I get shot down from 205ish down to 170ish. I spend and ass load of time reading about AS while recovering. Then spend alot of money to have a great cycle. So far I've stocked up three halo kits, one case of fina, 400 dbols, 6 vials enanthate, 2 vials BL TP2, humalog couple cases of pins and plenty of clomid and nolvadex thats just so far plan on having 40ml of suspension and 60ml EQ and a clen pump.
If after all this stuff and the 110% effort I'm putting forth if I have anymore bad luck then I might just have to back off a little.
Best of luck getting better... Hopefully both of us can have a few years without bad luck!!!
The Almighty
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BigAndy69 said:I've always thought that Testosterone like most steroids decreases immune function.
Test increases cortisol levels which actually helps to improve the immune system.
The Almighty said:
I remember a fair amount of literature on the subject from the MM2K days when that Dr. was treating himself with roids to stave off AIDS. He eventually became ill and died during a test only cycle of sustanon - the conclusion (not just MM2K's but medical sources) was that test significantly suppressed his immune system as he was very healthy during his previous cycles of deca etc... There was more literature later on Winstrol, Deca, and Anavar boosting immune functions (deca,winny being the stongest) and being supperior alternatives.
I am not an expert by any means on this but I'd be interested in the existance of a real study and not just a casual conclusion that increased cortisol from exog. test usage increases immune function because cortisol is linked to the immune system. There must be something out there. Maybe I should look.
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The Almighty said:
My search yielded the following info- nothing fantastic or super conclusive for heavier roid users so I didn't prepare a bunch of quotes:
General consensus in science is that testosterone is very much linked to immune system suppression (and just about universal when it comes to diseases and viral infection). Most of the stuff I found quoted this as fact. I couldn't find anything reputable (i.e. not a sales pitch for a product) claiming otherwise.
The exception was that several studies in humans and animals have linked testosterone to increased ability to heal wounds, infections, and injuries related to skin and muscle. Theories range from the redistribution of healing emphasis to increased cortico steroids mediating testosterone's negative effects for skelletal muscle and skin injuries.
So if someone has anything that definitively indicates that testosterone or testosterone therapy increases the ability of the immune system to ward off disease and viral infection I'd be interested.
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