Found my sons roids - Advice please

[Headholio]

This morning I found 2 bottles of epistane, a bottle of erase pro, and a bottle of Revolution PCT.

He is 18, still in high school.
Football is over, but he is really into lifting. Which is good.
I think he has decided to not play college football, so his lifting is just for bodybuilding and or health purposes.

He got caught the first time with a prohormone about 6 months ago. . Full bottle in his room. I threw it away and gave him the lecture about how he doesn't need it, it will screw him up later in life, his natural levels are high enough, too young, bla bla bla.

It seems that he is going to do it whether I approve or not. What is even more troubling , is that he seems not too smart about what he is doing.

For example, the epi doesn't aromatize right? Does it even make sense to do erase with it? And, the Revolution PCT contains the same ingredient as Erase! So it would be a double dose of AI with epi. Is that wrong or what?

At this point, what does this kid need? Parents have to eventually realize that kids don't always do what they are told. Should I switch from prison warden to educator mode? How would you handle it?

 

[zwhit]

he's too young. I'd be worried about his health to go the educator route. he'll probably think you don't know wtf you're talking about and disregard your advice anyway

I don't know. it's a tough spot

 

[Jbranken]

The ai's r def unnecessary. Epi is basically an ai with benefits. I'd make him talk to some TRT guys who made the same bad decisions he is making. Maybe it will become more real, thinking of injecting for the rest of his life

 

[mstiles87]

I know what stack he bought just curious is it the ibe epi? Needless to say I think you should go into educator mode and talk to him about it. But if he really wants something get home some animal stak all natty there and he will see some gains but 18 is too young even for epi. I think it would be harsh to come down on him cause we all get enticed by quick gains and we are all guilty of being sucked into the advertisement hype. Educate him and keep the epi for yourself lol.

 

[Strongbow]

This morning I found 2 bottles of epistane, a bottle of erase pro, and a bottle of Revolution PCT.

He is 18, still in high school.
Football is over, but he is really into lifting. Which is good.
I think he has decided to not play college football, so his lifting is just for bodybuilding and or health purposes.

He got caught the first time with a prohormone about 6 months ago. . Full bottle in his room. I threw it away and gave him the lecture about how he doesn't need it, it will screw him up later in life, his natural levels are high enough, too young, bla bla bla.

It seems that he is going to do it whether I approve or not. What is even more troubling , is that he seems not too smart about what he is doing.

For example, the epi doesn't aromatize right? Does it even make sense to do erase with it? And, the Revolution PCT contains the same ingredient as Erase! So it would be a double dose of AI with epi. Is that wrong or what?

At this point, what does this kid need? Parents have to eventually realize that kids don't always do what they are told. Should I switch from prison warden to educator mode? How would you handle it?

He's 18 and most of that shit is so bunk that he wont notice any benefits unless he bought some reputable epi. Warn him and leave it alone. Hes not pushing needles yet so be proud of that. Its prolly just a phase and it will pass when it gets to expensive and the results arent astounding to him.

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[Headholio]

I had been suspecting he has been on for a while. He is pretty big and buff for 18. And strong. And pretty damn moody but its hard to know what "normal" moodiness is for an 18 year old.

I was thinking if I explained to him just how misguided this cycle plan was, it might get him thinking that if he does want to juice, he at least better get more educated about it.

Yes IBE Epi which came from PHF supplemnts which hosts the prohormone forum dot com. I checked that site out and it says for 18 and older. So they are basically marketing prohormones to kids.

 

[Strongbow]

I had been suspecting he has been on for a while. He is pretty big and buff for 18. And strong. And pretty damn moody but its hard to know what "normal" moodiness is for an 18 year old.

I was thinking if I explained to him just how misguided this cycle plan was, it might get him thinking that if he does want to juice, he at least better get more educated about it.

Yes IBE Epi which came from PHF supplemnts which hosts the prohormone forum dot com. I checked that site out and it says for 18 and older. So they are basically marketing prohormones to kids.

Shit bro they give pain injections to kids so that they can play on friday night I hope youre not completely surprised. Honestly lotsbof kids at my sons school joose its not uncommon. With the advances in PCT its not a death sentence or a life of infertility
Just discuss it tell him your concerns and honestly stay out of it its only gonna make shit bad between you especially if youre doing it too
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[bigbassturd]

Definitely be the prison warden. It isn't your job to be his friend.

Not going to tell you how to raise your kid, but if you're worried about his long term health, do everything you can to make him forget about using hormones for at least a few more years.

He's 18 and knows everything already, so whatever you try to tell him to 'educate' him is going to be wasted hot air, and he's gonna do whatever hus buddies or some prohormone site tells him to do anyways.

 

[shirlene29]

there of teenagers that joose at my gym, i think its sad really
these kids are pushed for scholarships ...if they're not brains they're brawn ya know?

I have teenage daughters so its a little different but they get into their heads insanely bad dieting..."but mom you diet!" right...and I'm 35 with no reproductive future I'm worried about.
the ONLY thing that has worked with my girls with them being teenagers is playing the "friend" card with obvious limits..
I would suggest going over what you've found and explaining why it might not be such a hot idea and probably a waste of money..I agree and disagree with SB on this..yeah it may not ef up his hormones or have a very neglible effect but his liver could be a different bag of cats

dumping lots of anything on your liver is generally ill advised

I'd go over whats legit, whats safe, whats readily over the counter and give him the "I hope you do whats best for your body because its the only one you've got speech" and tell him, look I think you're trying to double up on AI's here...Im not sure this stane is legit..I think there are better ways to go about this until you've at least reached brain maturity (25) if not muscle maturity (late twenties)



it could be worse though, he could have 6 kids and be pushing needles...or doing really bad drugs

love him and be his friend with some boundaries


teenagers are tough man..Im just glad my girls don't do HALF the shit I did at their ages

 

[BigLP]

I remember being 18 very clearly since I am only 21. It is going to be near impossible to get him to stop doing it because if you take it away he will get it again and keep it at school or a friends house or somewhere you wont be able to get it. I know I wish I had someone to talk me through proper diet and discipline to make gains a few years ago so maybe tell him you will help him reach his goals without that and show him what hard work is.