forget the letro

[Vascular Freak]

unless you are running absurd amounts of test/dbol/drol etc this shit is just way to strong.....i am running 150mg prop/ 100mg tren / 150mg masteron eod and i added in some letro before my dostinex arrived and my workout was nowhere near the usual....joints hurt....kinda of weak....not the best pump....and my dick was like pudding with only .65mg ed (1/4 cc of ag letro).....i am done with that stuff....anyone else find a way to use this effective or does everyone experience this?

 

[onedieselboy]

bro, i agree...won't go near that shit....joints were screaming/dick was nonexistant.....stuff is no good in my book.
onedieselboy

 

[ironclaw]

I disagree, for some who have problems with the effectiveness of anti-es, letro is the only thing that works, for me anyway, I've tried adex, aromasin, nolva, and they all didn't do shit for me, letro worked from the getgo

 

[jamesG]

I run aromasin as the base and keep letro on hand. Works for me. I do think that some people need letro even with low dosages

 

[DBBT]

unless you are running absurd amounts of test/dbol/drol etc this shit is just way to strong.....i am running 150mg prop/ 100mg tren / 150mg masteron eod and i added in some letro before my dostinex arrived and my workout was nowhere near the usual....joints hurt....kinda of weak....not the best pump....and my dick was like pudding with only .65mg ed (1/4 cc of ag letro).....i am done with that stuff....anyone else find a way to use this effective or does everyone experience this?

shits strong on the real. I only take it when lumps start to form or at the very end of cycle when that stuff can be bad.

 

[noclue9415]

shits strong on the real. I only take it when lumps start to form or at the very end of cycle when that stuff can be bad.

Does letro do anything for lowering progesterone levels?

 

[Vascular Freak]

i believe that it doesn't directly lower prog but it suppresses estro SO much that prog does not reap any neg affects on the body....so in a sense yes

 

[noclue9415]

Does letro do anything for lowering progesterone levels?

NVM i just did some research. Turns out it does but not very effectively. Aromasin is supposed to be better

 

[noclue9415]

i believe that it doesn't directly lower prog but it suppresses estro SO much that prog does not reap any neg affects on the body....so in a sense yes

Thanks for the info though

 

[drwoody]

I disagree, for some who have problems with the effectiveness of anti-es, letro is the only thing that works, for me anyway, I've tried adex, aromasin, nolva, and they all didn't do shit for me, letro worked from the getgo

Bingo bro,I'm on test at only 400mg a week right now and I started getting gyno.I was running Armidex .5 eod and Proviron 37.5 ed and I still started geting gyno,4 days on Letro and zap al gyno sypmtoms are gone.Now on a sad note,yes my joints are definetly feeling it as well,oh well better than growing titties right.

 

[chestmaster1]

lower the dose, try half that twice a week

 

[Vascular Freak]

Bingo bro,I'm on test at only 400mg a week right now and I started getting gyno.I was running Armidex .5 eod and Proviron 37.5 ed and I still started geting gyno,4 days on Letro and zap al gyno sypmtoms are gone.Now on a sad note,yes my joints are definetly feeling it as well,oh well better than growing titties right.

if i were you i'd just bump the provrion to 75mg ed that'd do the trick and make gains MUCH better than even just the test alone.

 

[DBBT]

Does letro do anything for lowering progesterone levels?

i know it does for me.

 

[VooDooChild]

shits strong on the real. I only take it when lumps start to form or at the very end of cycle when that stuff can be bad.

bitch tits do suck, eh?

 

[Nelson Montana]

A lot of people are going to be surprised but I believe before long people will realize 1/2 mg of a-dex EOD and some natty supps will be all you need for 95% of cycles.

 

[Harleyguy]

A lot of people are going to be surprised but I believe before long people will realize 1/2 mg of a-dex EOD and some natty supps will be all you need for 95% of cycles.

I agree

 

[Triple J]

well the masteron is a strong enough androgen that it can have anti-estrogen effects in a similar manner to say, proviron

as for letro with the research products its just very hard to get the dosing right you are never sure exactly what you are dealing with. myself i found letro ran at 1.25 mg every third or fourth day was plenty but that was human grade tablets split in two so i know my dosing was spot-on

 

[st8grad]

Letro's half life is approx 2 days. Is it better to run .5 eod? Or even .25 eod?

 

[digimon7068]

knocks the shit out of my libido. . .

 

[jmead]

i dont quite get this one, i have taken 2 different UG letro, 1.25mg eod and never experienced all these horrid sides.. i might have a fuck load of estrogen?

i cant even feel it really doing anything.. ive done liquid, and 2 types of tabs now that i think about it

 

[Vascular Freak]

i dont quite get this one, i have taken 2 different UG letro, 1.25mg eod and never experienced all these horrid sides.. i might have a fuck load of estrogen?

i cant even feel it really doing anything.. ive done liquid, and 2 types of tabs now that i think about it

bro your a monster....u taking that amount is like me taking 2.5mg eod lol plus what were you running? if i touch test e/eq etc i high doses i need it.....but thats why i choose to stick with gear that i can just run proviron with.....winstrol with no AI gives me WAY better results than dbol with and AI

 

[jmead]

right now im running test/dbol/deca

800 test EW
450-500deca EW
50mg dbol ED

running letro and cabaser 2.5eod and .5e3d (i have alot of cabaser so id rather run it as a preventative and when i throw tren in the mix i wont have issues with lactation.)

i dont get dry joints or weak or anything like that, but my nipples are itchy..

im switching to 50mg proviron+20mg aromasin ED, will see how that works

 

[Nathan]

Does letro do anything for lowering progesterone levels?

YES. I'm pretty positive that it does. Anthony Roberts shot me a study that showed it does a few weeks back. And I am telling you, it does.

1: Am J Obstet Gynecol. 1975 Jan 1;121(1):121-6. LinksPerturbations of the human menstrual cycle by oxymetholone. Cox DW,Heinrichs WL,Paulsen AC,Conrad SH,Schiller HS,Hezl MR,Herrmann WL.The luteolytic activity of oxymetholone, and anabolic steroid, hasbeen evaluated in 10 women. Administration early in the follicularphase of the cycle inhibited ovulation and prolonged the durationof the cycles in 2 of 3 subjects, but treatment beginning on Day 10(3 subjects) did not prevent ovulation, although subsequent plasmaprogesterone concentrations were reduced. Treatment after ovulation(4 subjects) suppressed progesterone levels by 50 to 80 per centand shortened cycle length by 6 to 8 days. Side effects were weightgain and bromosulfophthalein retention. The most likely mechanismsproducing these perturbations are the inhibition of luteinizinghormone release early in the cycle and, later, inhibition ofprogesterone biosynthesis.PIP: 10 ovulating women were treated with oxymetholone in 1 of 3ways: 1) 50 mg twice daily every other day starting on the sixthday of the treatment cycle (early follicular phase), 2) 50 mg twicedaily every other day starting in the late follicular phase (tenthday), or 3) 100 mg daily starting in early luteal phase. 2 womentreated in early follicular phase had ovulation suppression andcycles prolonged 9 to 10 days, with progesterone suppressed byovulated, and a third had a 71% suppression of progesterone. In thethird group, cycle lengths were shortened due to a luteal phaseshortening of 6 to 8 days, with progesterone values decreased 53 to81%. Side effects noted were: weight gain (9 out of 10 patients)transient nausea, and increased bromsulphalein retention.

 

[ALIN]

unless you are running absurd amounts of test/dbol/drol etc this shit is just way to strong.....i am running 150mg prop/ 100mg tren / 150mg masteron eod and i added in some letro before my dostinex arrived and my workout was nowhere near the usual....joints hurt....kinda of weak....not the best pump....and my dick was like pudding with only .65mg ed (1/4 cc of ag letro).....i am done with that stuff....anyone else find a way to use this effective or does everyone experience this?

you dont need much and you can get by on EOD dosing.