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Ford lost 12.7 BILLION dollars in 2006... how will that affect me buying a Tacoma?
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all you opro-management/union busting poeple give me a major case of the red-ass.mrplunkey said:
WHERE do ya'll think benefits like these came from?
8 hour per day/40 hours per week work schedule
paid vacations
breaks during the work day
paid holidays
pension plans
the salary you are making now
do ya'll really think all of the above came from the friendly, generous, bottomless basic goodness of management's corporate heart and/or from the tender concern that management has for the workers that are producing the product they sell to make their huge bonuses and generous stock options?
do ya'll also still believe in santa claus and the tooth fairy????
the benefits you enjoy, the safe working conditions you take for granted, the recourse you have against management retaliation....all are dreived from collective bargaining practices.
management cares about ONE thing....profits...into THEIR pockets. if they could slice your paycheck by 2/3, eliminate overtime pay, cut out the benefits you still have...........they would in a heartbeat.
ya'll recall the classic line form the old song "15 tons"...
"i owe my soul to the company store".
rnch said:
Sorry dude but I'm self-employed. I dont enjoy any of these benefits. It's me vs. the market. If I screw up, I'm fucked. Ford employees on the other hand dont have to worry about that.
And bro, if management is so wrong and all about money, why aren't you or any other unionized employee sending your resume to get the job ? Looks like you could spend your whole day, waxing your pole from 9 to 5, pilling up cash and living like a big baller. There must be a reason why the big dogs get paid the big bucks and not Joe whatever....
yes, manny, i agree.....a very few (compared to the rest of the people out there)intelligent, motivated, gifted, driven people in this world do push themselves to become entrapenuers (sp) and presue their dreams. i am all for this. i do not discourage it.
but MOST OF THE CITIZENS of our country, the people that work for a living everyday, the people who pay the taxes, the people who vote our politicians in and out of office, are not blessed with this ability. in spite of what kids are taught by their college professors, most of us college graduates will be working for someone else for a living....not being featured on the cover of forbes or newsweek.
THAT is why unions were formed...to protect the average joe from management's lust for power and profit at all costs.
but MOST OF THE CITIZENS of our country, the people that work for a living everyday, the people who pay the taxes, the people who vote our politicians in and out of office, are not blessed with this ability. in spite of what kids are taught by their college professors, most of us college graduates will be working for someone else for a living....not being featured on the cover of forbes or newsweek.
THAT is why unions were formed...to protect the average joe from management's lust for power and profit at all costs.
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UA_Iron
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Re: Ford lost 12.7 BILLION dollars in 2006... how will that affect me buying a Tacoma
I will reiterate, and I will be correct once again; It is the shit product ford produces that is killing them. Produce something that works, works well, limited recalls, compete with foreign cars and it will sell, and sell well.
The costs of the union bullshit could then be absorbed.
I will reiterate, and I will be correct once again; It is the shit product ford produces that is killing them. Produce something that works, works well, limited recalls, compete with foreign cars and it will sell, and sell well.
The costs of the union bullshit could then be absorbed.
getting back to the ford dilema.....WHO approved the dull design products that ford cannot sell?
the unions?
NO!
MANAGEMENT approved the designs of these dull assed, fuel inefficient vehicles.
union employess only assemble these vehicles.
MANAGEMENT refused to modernize these "long-in-the-tooth" products.
MANAGEMENT refused to introduce new product lines.
toyota and honda re-design thieir carmys and accords every 2 or 3 years....ford modernized the tarus ..twice...in it's almost 20 year life.
the unions?
NO!
MANAGEMENT approved the designs of these dull assed, fuel inefficient vehicles.
union employess only assemble these vehicles.
MANAGEMENT refused to modernize these "long-in-the-tooth" products.
MANAGEMENT refused to introduce new product lines.
toyota and honda re-design thieir carmys and accords every 2 or 3 years....ford modernized the tarus ..twice...in it's almost 20 year life.
blueta2
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rnch said:
And they were great at the time. But unions have become too powerful.
There are many organizations within the workers comp boards that can protect as much as a union.
I'm staff and have no union fighting for my rights here. I have the HR dept, my big mouth and my workers board. The unions can and should have the same thing.
When WalMart employees wanted to go unionized, Walmart threatened to close the store and make sure they were all out of work. Those employees shut up quick. They are not being mistreated at Walmart.
