mrplunkey
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Hmm... ok... let's try this one more time:rnch said:and still U S auto executives will still rake in record salaries, bonuses and stock options....no matter how badly sales tank or how much money the companies hemorage.
I don't think anyone here is arguing that unions aren't contributing to the problem -- just debating how much they are contributing. Is this correct? So let's say maybe it's "some" and maybe its "a lot". That's a nice wide range.
Now here's what's going to happen on our current course:
1) Japanese companies are going to acquire US automakers as they slowly spin-down.
2) Japanese companies are then going to either A) break the unions, B) disperse the jobs overseas and/or C) Jack-up the price of US cars.
3) US citizens will lose their jobs and/or have to pay more for cars, thus pushing a car beyond the means of some people.
4) People are going to bitch and act surprised.
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Now it's cool to say "but US car company execs suck!!!". Ok, great. Let's say the CEO of Ford is doing lines of blow off his secretary's ass. Now let's say the CFO of GM is hacking the computer to double his salary. That doesn't change the fact that (3) and (4) are going to happen.
We may not be able to nationalize Ford motor company and replace their CEO with a high-quality goverment employee. We may not be able to replace GM's CFO with a publicly-elected official. What we can do is get them some union relief to either delay or prevent (3) and (4) from happening.
It really isn't that hard to get your head around and besides, like I said before it doesn't really matter to me.