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Ford lost 12.7 BILLION dollars in 2006... how will that affect me buying a Tacoma?

rnch said:
and still U S auto executives will still rake in record salaries, bonuses and stock options....no matter how badly sales tank or how much money the companies hemorage.
Hmm... ok... let's try this one more time:

I don't think anyone here is arguing that unions aren't contributing to the problem -- just debating how much they are contributing. Is this correct? So let's say maybe it's "some" and maybe its "a lot". That's a nice wide range.

Now here's what's going to happen on our current course:

1) Japanese companies are going to acquire US automakers as they slowly spin-down.

2) Japanese companies are then going to either A) break the unions, B) disperse the jobs overseas and/or C) Jack-up the price of US cars.

3) US citizens will lose their jobs and/or have to pay more for cars, thus pushing a car beyond the means of some people.

4) People are going to bitch and act surprised.

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Now it's cool to say "but US car company execs suck!!!". Ok, great. Let's say the CEO of Ford is doing lines of blow off his secretary's ass. Now let's say the CFO of GM is hacking the computer to double his salary. That doesn't change the fact that (3) and (4) are going to happen.

We may not be able to nationalize Ford motor company and replace their CEO with a high-quality goverment employee. We may not be able to replace GM's CFO with a publicly-elected official. What we can do is get them some union relief to either delay or prevent (3) and (4) from happening.

It really isn't that hard to get your head around and besides, like I said before it doesn't really matter to me.
 
Re: Ford lost 12.7 BILLION dollars in 2006... how will that affect me buying a Tacoma

4everhung said:
their new sonata plant is 30 mimutes away from me
apparently the history channel just had a special on the new hyundai plant
supposedly state of the art


they spent billions on it. maybe they want to build better vehicles and boost their sales. then they can't blame their shitty sales on unions. :lmao: the japanese (toyota, honda, nissan) have their eye on taking over the truck market too, which only means one thing, they will. i wonder if they will do it by building the best trucks at a good price.
 
I read not so long ago that overall US auto industry employment has remained stable
the jobs are evaucating detroit and reappearing in Texas,Tennessee,Alabama,South Carolina etc.

if you're in the SEC you have at least one foreign auto plant in your state
alabama has Mercedes and Hyundai
 
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Re: Ford lost 12.7 BILLION dollars in 2006... how will that affect me buying a Tacoma

The root of the problem is in the shit product.

Reliability is at stake. Make a good product, people will buy it.

The unions make it hard to adjust to the market.
 
Re: Ford lost 12.7 BILLION dollars in 2006... how will that affect me buying a Tacoma

They will just file for bankruptcy, deep 6 the pensions, and restructure. This is just getting started.
 
Re: Ford lost 12.7 BILLION dollars in 2006... how will that affect me buying a Tacoma

Go Union all the way I'm all about Union, its the fair way and the only way...
 
Niggas

Buy German cars (support our Payment Balance, we need the exports)

"Ze problem is not ze machine, but ze driver"
 
Re: Ford lost 12.7 BILLION dollars in 2006... how will that affect me buying a Tacoma

pintoca said:
Niggas

Buy German cars (support our Payment Balance, we need the exports)

"Ze problem is not ze machine, but ze driver"



That's Funny
 
p0ink said:
do you want to know why ford and every other american car company is hurting? it is because of the unions.

these car companies are hemorrhaging money, because they have to pay pensions for every motherfucker that has ever worked and retired from those places.

the unions are costing them billions.

You took the words right out of my mouth. Unions are killing many industries!

Also Japanese cars sell more and are made better because they implement programs like Kaizen and Toptech.
 
Re: Ford lost 12.7 BILLION dollars in 2006... how will that affect me buying a Tacoma

UA_Iron said:
The root of the problem is in the shit product.

Reliability is at stake. Make a good product, people will buy it.

The unions make it hard to adjust to the market.


Kudos....bottom line and well said :-)
 
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