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Slyder190

Slyder190

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I know of good number of guys around here have been waiting on a particualar canadian source. A new product line seems to belong with idea of Sanata Claus and the Easter Bunny. I urge you to write the mods of this board ASAP and mods of other boards as well. This has gone on for far too long. I have the Scammer flag in my hand, ready to wave it any moment now, just taking the last few proper steps before this whole situation gets blown up. Please, write the mods. PM me for any help or details, only those who know I am referring to though please. It seems to be a lot of trouble to get someone posted as a scammer when the proof has been upon for how many months now? At least 4-5. Enough is enough.
 
I'm not sure who you're thinking of, but with that new product line business, one person comes to mind and if it IS him, then I wouldn't cry scammer were I you. That will not end well.
 
If it's who I'm thinking of, I got my stuff. It may have taken 3 months, but I got it.
 
This person may not be a scammer but he is not conducting business too well at least with a good number of people.....However, all i hear is great things about the Canadian and yet he has not come through...it has been 18 weeks now of emails and promises.....Getting tired of this
 
Nathan

With all do respect my friend, and I truely mean no disrespect, as you have been a help to me in the past, at this point, FUCK HIM!
 
Not again, this is getting tiresome.
 
Jubei

Agreed my friend, it is getting tiresome. So the sooner I get the okay to post his ass as a scammer, the sooner we can all stop seeing and hearing this fuss.
 
Err, not what I meant. Don't you remember xionic's accusations and how that went? Not too well. Starting up a new lab is alot of work, and it takes time. I happen to know that he has $40,000.00 of his own money invested in it so far. Trust me, he is no scammer, I have my money where my mouth is on this one.
 
Not for nothin...

Common curtoseyn(spelling?) goes a long way. return an e-mail. Admit when things are bad. If you can't deliver product, then deliver a fuckin refund. Best i can come up with is he stole our money to start up a lab that so far is only a myth.
 
Whoa sounds bad

I know of a specific canadian who is introducing a new product line, and my close buddy was mentioning doing business with him. Somebody PLEASE hit me up at [email protected] with the name of his new brand of products. If its the same brand my bro is about to dump jis paycheck on perhaps I can call him before he does. PLEASE somebody fill me in on the BRAND NAME of the new line, thats not a source request but it should ease my mind and possibly same my buddy's ass way more loot that he has to lose. Thanks bro's and good looking out.
 
if u are talking about the new canadian/american UG lab that is opening/opened, then u are most certainly not about to cry scammer, this guy is definiately no scammer and better drop him a line at his old email as well as the new email...........

JC
 
E-mail

E-mail....yeah why didn't I think of that. This guy doesn't see the need to reply to people whose money he already has.
 
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Cmon guys somebody hit me up with the name of this new Canadian product line. I dont want to post the name of the one my bro is about to buy, or else if its not the same one it could ruin a good bro's rep. Some body please hit me up with the name of this Sources product line, help a bro save a bro some $ and frustration. Thanks
 
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slyder190 said:
With all do respect my friend, and I truely mean no disrespect, as you have been a help to me in the past, at this point, FUCK HIM!
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You didn't hurt my feelings, so don't worry. I'm just trying to diffuse the situation since he has always been good to me. If you know more about the situation, then you feel for both sides, you know? It's just not my place to give out any information at this point since I'm not entirely sure what I can and cannot say, plus i don't know the whole story at this point.
 
TRY BOTH OF HIS EMAILS, IF U HAVE HIS NEW LIST U MOST LIKELY HAVE HIS OLD ONE AND IF U HAVE THAT U CAN PROBABLY FIGURE OUT WHO HIS PARTNER IS - providing it is who i think it is u are talking about
 
Can someone JUST put up the labs initials. That would comfirm or clear alot of people. I ask because I'm getting ready to order some supplements and don't want to wait for 4-6 months. The company I'm ordering from say's 2 wks MAX. DO NOT ASK FOR THE SOURCE !
 
Johnny Cut...

I will give his old e-mail a shout, just to say I covered that base. Mr. New Product line will get no sympathy from me. If you can't even keep your customers updated to give them peace of mind, then you get no respect. If he's having so many problems, he shouldn't be hyping up the supposed lab and its' big take off. These products don't exist in my opinion. He can't send refunds? WTF? This guy may have been a good bro in the past, as he was for a little while with me, even when we first had differences, we were able to work things out, but then he still never came through. His good days are apperently over. he has nothing to say to defend himself either. I know for fact he reads this board. And for the other boys waitin on him, feel free to jump so the good bros of this board know it's not just me.
 
Fuck it. If anyone is that concerned, you can e-mail me at [email protected] . Dude better appreciate me taking the time to do this or it's his ass. :)

I will try and put anyone's mind at ease, and when I speak with him next, which will be soon, I will get the final word and will find out exactly what I can tell everyone. As for now, e-mail me if you want to talk about it. I may be able to ease your mind.
 
The list indicates that "new lab" should be up and running in mid July. That being said its not really late at all. I know he is busy right now (for obvious reasons) and maybe does not have time to be on the computer returning emails 24/7. This isn't one of those deals where your pizza is free if not delivered within 30 minutes or less.

Just my opinion: He is a standup bro and until I have a valid reason to think otherwise that will remain my opinion of him.
 
jubei said:
The list indicates that "new lab" should be up and running in mid July. That being said its not really late at all. I know he is busy right now (for obvious reasons) and maybe does not have time to be on the computer returning emails 24/7. This isn't one of those deals where your pizza is free if not delivered within 30 minutes or less.

Just my opinion: He is a standup bro and until I have a valid reason to think otherwise that will remain my opinion of him.
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Exactly.
 
Aragorn, check your PM's
 
I will wait to chime in till I find out if my bro finally got something or not....even if he did, no product and no communication for weeks is not good business......and if he didn't, well........
 
You guys are unbelievable. Everyone calm the hell down.

He is absolutely NOT a scammer nor will anyone be scammed...PERIOD.

So just relax and hold on, there's is absolutely NO QUESTION in my mind about this.
 
I know for a fact that it has been 2 DAYS since slyder has talked with the man in question.

PEACE OF MIND......for fuck sakes 2 DAYS and you need PEACE OF MIND.

I would not jump the gun on this one.
 
jubei said:
The list indicates that "new lab" should be up and running in mid July. That being said its not really late at all.

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True in a way, but my order did not conist of his new line of products, it was stuff he had in stock from the past.
 
2 fucking days? Maybe he should be tagged with a tracking device that sends a signal every time he takes a shit.
 
Everybody hold the fuck up one minute...

let me get this shit straight....

1.) order is placed well over 4 months ago in the neighborhood of $1000.

2.) I'm lied to and told numerous times, it's on the way.

3.) he finally comes clean and says, okay you got nothin on the way.

4.) he tells people waiting they will be compensated, and we all have nothing to show for it.

5.) He doesn't reply to any e-mails. Big Aragon. I appreciate the fact yoyu said i can e-mail you, but you say you know for fact it has been 2 days since i spoke to him. try 4 weeks (FOR FACT). i e-mailed him a few days ago and yesterday and so did a mod, and still no response. Ripper 911 e-mailed 3x in the past 3 weeks. he got no response.

6.) I have been keeping in touch with a mod on a daily basis, doing things the right way. In the mean time, i have been trying to get the ball rollin on either finally being able to post him a scammer (THE FACT THAT STANDS RIGHT NOW)...or get a refund, and not just to myself.

So I hear people say calm down. Well when should i get pissed? At a year and four months? What the fuck? Maybe i should send more money in the mean time and try and get the guilt to build?

And Jubei, no disrespect, i am dissing no one here, until you have reason to beleive otherwise? what more reason do you need/ A bunch of good bros who sent money, got lied to, got no refund or new lab products. and don't even get e-mails returned for weeks on end. tell me sir, how much reason do you need? open your eyes and your ears man.

I'm the bad guy here right? I'll be e-mailing Nathan and Aragon, since they extended the courtosy. Not for nothin, i've been tryin to do this the right way this whole time? Maybe we should enact scammer laws in association with Better Business Bureau and see what the statute of limitations is on how much time can pass before we call, dare i say...SCAMMER!
 
I know how you guys feel but this Bro is no scammer. He had my money for 4 weeks then told me he's sorry about not shipping ( busy with the new lab) and that he would ship. Well to weeks later nothing. So after a few more weeks I was able to get my money back. The Bro gave me his cell number to call him and get the tracking # for the WU. I know he went to collect some item for the new lab and was going to be away for a week. This was last Friday I talked to him.
If he you have a order with him he will fill it with extras for the delay if he's smart or he's going to lose a lot of customers.

slyder190, You have every right to be pissed off. I was and it was for less time and money. He made a big mistake by bull shitting people that he shipped when he didn't. And there is no good reson not to reply to your emails. Of course he is using the money to start you the new company. Which again is fucking wrong. I hope he give you a shit load of free stuff for your troubles.
 
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GBWA said:
I know how you guys feel but this Bro is no scammer. He had my money for 4 weeks then told me he's sorry about not shipping ( busy with the new lab) and that he would ship. Well to weeks later nothing. So after a few more weeks I was able to get my money back. The Bro gave me his cell number to call him and get the tracking # for the WU. I know he went to collect some item for the new lab and was going to be away for a week. This was last Friday I talked to him.
If he you have a order with him he will fill it with extras for the delay if he's smart or he's going to lose a lot of customers.
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I didn't want to be the one to say he went out of town on business for a few days, but there would be your reason why he's having trouble responding to e-mails. Look guys, last I talked to him, he's fucking stressing about the new lab. But, the last I remember him going on about (endlessly) was how excited he is that he's FINALLY got this new lab coming out. He'll do you all right in the end or he'll lose business obviously. No one will lose money though. Think about how tough and time-consuming it must be to set up a lab, and get all the raw ingredients, labels, etc. Especially when some raw ingredients don't come in powder form , but rather only in liquid form. How the fuck do you ship mass amounts of that into the country? Beats the hell out of me. Anyways, he's also trying to get it all right the FIRST TIME. He plans on being around for a while longer as far as I know after all.

Slyder - I know how you are feeling though. When I speak with him next, yours will be the first name that comes up, I assure you.
 
LOL @ this entire thread...I talked to him, in fact I called him after I saw this thread...he's not in town.

He actually left what he was doing to answer the bullshit:

1- He hasn't answered emails in 2 fuckin' days. Monday and tuesday

2- the assholes who keep talking about waiting 8weeks, 13 weeks...blah blah,

He offered to send you your money back (after the original order was seized, ie ripper?, ) or you could wait until July to get a substantial (huge) amount of gear from his new line shipped DOMESTICALLY. Those who chose the later, why the fuck are you complaining. It was your decision

3- Slyder, he told me you received some of your order and you will be refunded by WU with a big fuck you from him and from his loyal customers.

4- GBWA: gettingbetterwithage? If so he says hi
 
BigAndy69 said:
LOL @ this entire thread...I talked to him, in fact I called him after I saw this thread...he's not in town.

He actually left what he was doing to answer the bullshit:

1- He hasn't answered emails in 2 fuckin' days. Monday and tuesday

2- the assholes who keep talking about waiting 8weeks, 13 weeks...blah blah,

He offered to send you your money back (after the original order was seized, ie ripper?, ) or you could wait until July to get a substantial (huge) amount of gear from his new line shipped DOMESTICALLY. Those who chose the later, why the fuck are you complaining. It was your decision

3- Slyder, he told me you received some of your order and you will be refunded by WU with a big fuck you from him and from his loyal customers.

4- GBWA: gettingbetterwithage? If so he says hi
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Hey Andy, yeah it's me. I know he's a good Bro and I can't wait until he's up and running. :)
 
BigAndy

it seems there is no rspect coming your way to me, real stand up. Anyway, I got 2 bottles of l-dex and that was it. A big Fuck me, I'm so hurt. he got balls if that's the case. I've said this 4000 times, I'm not the only one he ignored. he's been dissin Ripper and others for weeks. He's lied to all of us. he offered to send out products that were told would've reched us by now. If he took 5 minutes to write and say, hey, I'm havin problems, but All will be good in the end, then NONE of this would have ever come out. Fuck me? Whatever. I won't diss him here. I'll hopefully talk to him eventually and see what he says then. i'm not gonna play a childish he says, she says game.
 
and by the way...

I kept it to PMs with a mod. I won't say which one unless he chooses to add anything here. But a mod can attest to that.
 
Slyder and ripper, you were both offered a refund on the spot but you went with the generous offer of gear(that was going to take time.)

You gave him 2 days to reply to your email...he's not in town, he's getting things done...on his end. Now he has to deal with this bullshit and it delays orders for everyone like you wouldn't beleive

Everyone sending emails, speculation,,it delays things by days...now I have to wait even longer on my 2500 dollar order because of your bullshit.

On the list it says MId July the products will be released...so he missed the deadline by what 0.5-1days? Let's call him a scammer, he hasn't answered emails in 48 hours.

:rolleyes:

You think he lied to you yet you don't know the behind the scenes.
 
BigAndy69 said:
LOL @ this entire thread...I talked to him, in fact I called him after I saw this thread...he's not in town.

He actually left what he was doing to answer the bullshit:

1- He hasn't answered emails in 2 fuckin' days. Monday and tuesday

2- the assholes who keep talking about waiting 8weeks, 13 weeks...blah blah,

He offered to send you your money back (after the original order was seized, ie ripper?, ) or you could wait until July to get a substantial (huge) amount of gear from his new line shipped DOMESTICALLY. Those who chose the later, why the fuck are you complaining. It was your decision

3- Slyder, he told me you received some of your order and you will be refunded by WU with a big fuck you from him and from his loyal customers.

Im not here to start trouble i know this is a rough game we play but some people are not getting the respect as a customer. Some people have sent him alot of money and have not recieved anything.....for me this has been an ongoing process for 16 weeks now i think i have been patient enough. Yes i have recieved emails but the communication has been very poor. Im sure he is a good source to all of you who have been using him in the past but this is my first time using him and I have had nothing but problems.....Again im not hear to stir up the pot but i am here to share what is really going on...BigAron and Nathan i appreciate you guys relaying messages to us but you guys dont know the whole story...yes i did agree to recieve the New line of products instead of REFUND but.......he told me 2 weeks til it will be released....now it has been 5 weeks since Jun 13th. I have emailed him 2 times asking what is the status on my order and i did not recieve any emails at all reguarding an update. ALSO..... the order was not PROVEN to be siezed i had not recieved any siezure notice he said he sent the first order and it never came then he claimed he resent it and that never came. Its kinda wierd that NO packages or siezure notices came...I have made alot of orders over the years and everytime a package does not come i get a notice.....again im not here to talk down on this source but this GREAT source is not taking care of business properly and i am an example of it.

Here:BIGARAGORN
Below i have listed a history of a few emails...

Source Wrote: 13 Jun 2003
In about 2 weeks......
I will email you


On Fri, 13 Jun 2003 12:22:02
Any word on the date of the resend ???? Dont forget i have a new shipping addy !!!!

Source Wrote On Thu, 05 Jun 2003 17:43:02
Okay 2 choices here:

1- I have no product to resend, I'm waiting on my products, ie
*** Labs I can send you your full order if you are able to wait...it will be sent domestically
2- I can send you half your money Back this week.

Thanks, and truly sorry for all this.

On Thu, 29 May 2003 16:56:34 -0700
Please consider resending the package it has been 8 weeks since you sent the last one and this is begining to be an unusual wait time I have more prducts to order and alot of my frineds who were refered to you are waiting to here from me so they can order as well.. i have just been burned one of my domestic sources has gotten busted now im out even more..i can not afford to loose another package....Please reply to this email confirming the resending situation and then i will give you my new shipping address to reship Thanks- - - Ripper911
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Ripper, I'm not going to get into this with you but you are known to "inflate" numbers...plus you "inflated" an extra tren a winny to your order. You claim the order is 1360 but you really sent 1100.
 
Here we go again.....WTF. This source has always, and I mean ALWAYS come through. I happen to know for a fact that he has a policy of refunding those too impatient to weather product delays (that, by the way, are out of his hands sometimes). Creating a lab from scratch is not an easy task, and just like launching any other business, there are bound to be growing pains in the beginning. My advice to you is to take the refund, quit whining, and take up another hobby. Buying steroids is NOT like going down to Wal-mart to pick up a case of pop, and if you're that squeamish with your money, go on down to your local gym and buy Cell-Tech or something.
 
BigAndy69 said:
Ripper, I'm not going to get into this with you but you are known to "inflate" numbers...plus you "inflated" an extra tren a winny to your order. You claim the order is 1360 but you really sent 1100.
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First off "known".....known for what I have never done business with this source this is my first time....I dont know what your talking about by inflating extra gear...at this time i do not have the original order because one of my WELL known sources got busted and i had to Clean out my records.....HOWEVER, i do remember when i placed the order i did not have the money to add additional western union charges....and i offered ONLY to send cash....The source was trying to be nice by offering to minus the WU fee off my order so i could send it....This is what i mean by YOU DONT KNOW THE WHOLE STORY.......BIGARAGON, its great that you know him personally but your are getting bits and pieces of the story.....So instead of trying to bash me....be the middle man and relay the messages without the critizium please. Again.....must i repeat i am not here to start trouble, im simple trying to get to the bottom of this

BIGARAGON, Please tell the source to email me with an update....I can only speak on here since he does not reply to my emails..Thanks Ripper911
 
canadianhitman said:
Here we go again.....WTF. This source has always, and I mean ALWAYS come through. I happen to know for a fact that he has a policy of refunding those too impatient to weather product delays (that, by the way, are out of his hands sometimes). Creating a lab from scratch is not an easy task, and just like launching any other business, there are bound to be growing pains in the beginning. My advice to you is to take the refund, quit whining, and take up another hobby. Buying steroids is NOT like going down to Wal-mart to pick up a case of pop, and if you're that squeamish with your money, go on down to your local gym and buy Cell-Tech or something.
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To the Hitman and EVERYONE else......
This whole thing is getting blown up...NO ONE IS A SCAMMER....I understand what the policy is and i was chosen to wait again for the new line.....HOWEVER, I was told to wait 2 weeks...i waited and then i emailed him for 3 weeks without getting a response...This is the only thing I am saying. Therefore, i have not recieved his new email addy or List, so i dont have any NEWS or Updates im left unanswered..This is why im here

That's all.............RIPPER911
 
I'll chime in later...

Busy with female company right now. I have some things to clear up here. Not likin the bullshit I will present things in a different manner later on.
 
ripper i think you are getting me and BigAndy mixed up. I have never dissed you but i did say that slyder has only waited 2 days on a follow up email. I understand that you guys are pissed. Yes i am a good friend but i do not get bits and pieces. I assure you all i did was mention to the man that this thread had been started as again his access to a computer has been limited as he has been out of town. Now this is all over the boards and i am afraid that this has happened out of haste.

In this game all one has is trust.......it seems you and slyder have acted much to fast without knowing all the facts yourselves. I KNOW THAT THIS IS A TOUGH SITUATION BUT IT IS A DELICATE ONE. You guys have dealt with this the wrong way if you ask me by trying to use smear tactics on the boards. This guy has been one of the best and in the last two months i have known that he has been very very busy. And ripper you look like you are in no position to talk as it seems you are not trustworthy ( inflating orders etc. ).
 
bigAragorn said:
ripper i think you are getting me and BigAndy mixed up. I have never dissed you but i did say that slyder has only waited 2 days on a follow up email. I understand that you guys are pissed. Yes i am a good friend but i do not get bits and pieces. I assure you all i did was mention to the man that this thread had been started as again his access to a computer has been limited as he has been out of town. Now this is all over the boards and i am afraid that this has happened out of haste.

In this game all one has is trust.......it seems you and slyder have acted much to fast without knowing all the facts yourselves. I KNOW THAT THIS IS A TOUGH SITUATION BUT IT IS A DELICATE ONE. You guys have dealt with this the wrong way if you ask me by trying to use smear tactics on the boards. This guy has been one of the best and in the last two months i have known that he has been very very busy. And ripper you look like you are in no position to talk as it seems you are not trustworthy ( inflating orders etc. ).
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Yes i got you both mixed up sorry for that....may i make one thing clear I am not in this with slyder....slyder has made this thread and i am adding to it w/my situation. My situation is much different than Slyders. I am not calling anyone out, I am just stating the facts of MY own situation. I did not make this thread so i am not dealing with this the wrong way. I did not inflate my order...... so please stop trying to pin stuff on me so i look bad and have less ground to stand on with this situation. I have never had any source problems in my past and do not plan on having one now i just would like an email from my source....enough said
 
i cant remember who emailed me, ripper maybe? i told you where to look for the info that he was out of town for a few days...
 
okay...

Yes this was my thread. Ripper has indeed only added to it. Now-

Yes I e-mailed him twice in the last few days. I heard from others that were waiting on him he wasn't responding to e-mails for weeks, not that i thought I'd be special but i tried to e-mail myself as well. He's out town, okay but why hasn't he anserwed to his customers e-mails?

BigAndy, your out of line with the disses. Okay, he's your boy. But he's acted like a shitty business man. It was not personal with anyone of his friends.

The man and I had words a few months back when I called him a scammer. He offered a refund, but I chose to wait longer as well, as he said he had some shitty luck, so I kept the good faith in him.We resolved the situation like adults. He told me products could be shipped much earlier as well. But again, that was mot the case. All he had to was keep us updated via e-mail and I had told him that long ago, just keep me updated. He assked that i tell anyone I told that I had doubted him that he made good, and I told him absolutely. I started a thread letting it be known a Canadian source had a few problems, but had offered to make good, that I would post updates and when I received my package.

All in all the promises did wear thin I must say. It was all there. When the man doesn't keep in touch, how are we supposed to know anything at all? (BigAndy)

I tried to navigate through the whole situation properly, first by PM's to mods and then talking to others and trying to go through the mods to get the word out. I could've waited a lot longer than 2 days, but he hasn't answered others in almost a month, he's gonna take the time out to respond to me?

I apologize if I offended those who know him personally. No harm meant. No one wanted to step up and say a word till this got bigger.

That's what I wanted to say.
 
You had better not post anything about this guy bro, and I hope to god the mod you say your talking to doesnt grant you permission to do so...........

what if you have enough info on him and do blow his cover, lets say the "law" gets the info and decides it's worth their time to follow up on it.........ALOT of bros will lose thier money because of YOU not because he is a "scammer" which he is not.

I have dealt with him for over three years and he has always taken care of his end. I have had a few waits and "scares" but he always comes through..I'm not goin into detail with any of them but he always made good..(I am one of the most paranoid people I know and am always trippin out ....people forget that sources are like us, they wait for shit to, they have deals go bad........THEY HAVE LIVES OUTSIDE THIS GAME AND THE PROBLEMS THAT GO WITH IT

As for the new lab, I only heard about it from him about, oh 2-3 months ago maybe, during that time I was looking to place an order for regular shit and he said that he was gonna drop most o fthat shit and focus on his new biz.....he still hooked me up 1-2 weeks later. He told me the new lab would be "starting" in the next month or so, which puts us into late may/early june....I mailed him loking for an update on it and to put an order in he said it was just coming together and that products would hopefully start bein made within the next month, puts us in mid june.......I mailed again he said it would be ready mid july..........I sent funds and also ordered some other shit from a different label through him he sent it in late JUNE so he aint scammin noone cause I got my shit..........IT'S MID JULY BARELY........LIST SAID MID JULY...........he said like 2-3 months ago he was gonna make a lab, you think it takes a couple weeks or a month to do this come on man try a few months, which it has been.........

I know he isnt the best at replying to emails but he is busy with this shit and HAS A LIFE.......not the best business etiquite but he always comes through.......

I am more worried about you blowing the whistle on him and the resulting problems that will follow than I am about him scammin me...............DON'T DO IT..........and why is it that it's only you and 1 other person claiming this.......not that I'm saying your situations are fabricated but ya ned more than just two guys outta, what a hundred two hundred 500 hundred people dealing with him to have problems in order to back that he is a scammer..........

rethink it man, I'd give it at LEAST another 4 weeks as most of the shit should be out in the next week and a few other products in the following week...........I'm sure you are the first he will ship shit to............

this post may be really "jumbled" up but this shit is not cool and it's hard to get points out there without other shit coming along LOL
 
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well my order took just over 7 weeks to get. it was a small order at that, i actually got a different lab than what i ordered but it was all same size/dose, and i was fine with that.
i emailed him last week to see how the new stuff was going, he promptly replied and even remembered about my long wait.
so if my $.02 mean anything he made good with me.
 
Final outcome

Nothing is officially settled. I have spoken to the mad. Again we had some words. I think we have smoothed things out, but not sure exactly. we're still sending e-mails back and forth and I'm still waiting to see what we're gonna work out in the end. All I can tell you right now is that it seems ne way or another, he's gonna rectify the situation in the end. We have to talk a little bit, I'll let you know the final outcome though. My mind is more at ease and things do seem to have settled down. A little communication can go quite a long way. I'll keep ya all posted. Like i said though, in the end, be it refund or products it seems as if all is gonna turn out okay.
 
Update

I heard from the man again tonight. I'm not sure what he does or does not want me to say exactly at this point, so I won't say much. I have requested a refund, and it was not for personal reasons against him, just makes my life a little easier right now. just the decision I had to make in the end. I'll post another update soon. He had told me last week he'd mail my funds back then before we had talked further, again for the record.
 



HE IS NOT A SCAMMER.


NO MOD GIVE PERMISSION FOR INFO POSTING.

IF YOU POST HIS INFO, I PROMISE YOU WILL BE BANNED PERMANENTLY.

 
The guy we're speaking about, since mid June, has been sitting on almost 2K of my funds... I'm not even the least bit concerned. I've used this source before, for substantial quantities of gear... he's tried and true in my experience with him. The people who are backing/assisting him are solid as well... I know one of them personally and I can't say enough about his integrity.

This source has gone beyond what was expected of him before. I'm positive he'll continue to do so in the future.
 
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Calm down already

I have been calling every shot like i see it. He has a lot of bros who will stand by him no matter what. This is obviously a good thing. But the whole situation was not fabricated. He's been in touch with me and we are working things out, no absolute final outcome yet, but things are looking up. You can see in this thread how my personal comments and updates have changed as time has gone on. I must say though it's not like some of us sat down and said, "hey let's get this guy." We had issues that were not being adressed and unfortunately things escalated. I've been pretty fuckin pissed with this guy along the way, as he has with me also, but thankfully we're in the process of smoothing things out, and as of right now, I have a positive view of him and have let it be known. I'm confident when the smoke clears, I'll be giving this guy a positive reference. But don't make it sound like the guys who got stuck waiting were the bad guys. Back the fuck up.
 
latest

Our friend across the bordr agreed to send a refund this coming week. So in the end, yes, stand up business man.
 
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