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For those interested: My review on VIGOR from PF

hurricane187 said:
see im the opposite.. i try sponors stuff before anyone else cause i give them a chance 1st cause they help make this board what it is today.. so far i have tried

dx7- little pricey but feel way more natural energy since using and overall better feeling .. dont agree with people that said all multi are the same .. i was using mega man gold and i feel a big difference ..love this stuff

amp02 and lipoflame- man u guys know how great this stuff is .. u dont mind stims these are the best stuff u can find for what they claim to do.. amp 02 makes me feel strong as a bull,adds energy and gives endurance .. lipo right before i run feel like i can run over 1 hr on the treadmill and getin the buring feel in my belly

dermacrine-needto was right bout this stuff .. have noticed increase sex drive.. strength gain ..even slight aggression ..hope its in my mind cause i feel a slight tingle in my scalp lol ... hope hair doesnt shead

big blast- bought havent really used much got other protein powers i still need to go threw plus alot of carbs in this and have been tryin 2 cut carbs.. this is the 1 product i really can comment on

overall this board got great sponors and they sell excellent products .. 1 million times better then u can find in gnc and better then any stuff i found else were on the net ..wouldnt be sceptical at all bout any of these guys ..peace

Good call bro. Yeah, I'm not only proud of my line, I'm proud that the other sponsers put out good stuff and at a good price. Now that the "you know who store " is gone I'd say all EF sponsors have top notch stuff.

As for the BIG BLAST -- just taking it now and then would be a waste. You're better off waiting for a bulking stage, using it at least twice a day, and you'll really notice a change.
 
I respond very well in general to any natty supplement. I've had very good results with Omega's products (g-covery, rawmcc, amp02) and with PF's products (unleashed, post-cycle, Vigor) Results vary from user to user. The only shit that never worked for me was the old creatine monohydrate.

So no wonder Nelson the big woods! I knew there has to be something else with vigor cause I can't have my cock acting like a 15 year old...at 31. lol
And like Nelson said, there is no caffeine added with Vigor; there is just a little bit of naturally occuring caffeine from Guarana. But this makes it safe to stack it with something else that has caffeine on it like amp02 if you wanna get that shaky hands energy.
 
DJ_UFO said:
I respond very well in general to any natty supplement. I've had very good results with Omega's products (g-covery, rawmcc, amp02) and with PF's products (unleashed, post-cycle, Vigor) Results vary from user to user. The only shit that never worked for me was the old creatine monohydrate.

So no wonder Nelson the big woods! I knew there has to be something else with vigor cause I can't have my cock acting like a 15 year old...at 31. lol
And like Nelson said, there is no caffeine added with Vigor; there is just a little bit of naturally occuring caffeine from Guarana. But this makes it safe to stack it with something else that has caffeine on it like amp02 if you wanna get that shaky hands energy.
i respone well to but not to crap... everything i have tried has been top notch on here so far .. knock on wood lol
 
hurricane187 said:
i respone well to but not to crap... everything i have tried has been top notch on here so far .. knock on wood lol

I think the site is unique in that it was a place for legit sponsors to promote products that wouldn't be understood in many other places. Elsewhere, it's either bullshit Muscletech stuff geared to newbies or it's bullshit prohormone crap with twenty letter names geared to geeks who want to think they're scientists.
 
corto said:
nelson can you link me to your website, also do you take paypal?

It's not my site bro. The supps are sold through various outlets and that will soon include EF, but for now, you'll have to PM me.
 
hurricane187 said:
see im the opposite.. i try sponors stuff before anyone else cause i give them a chance 1st cause they help make this board what it is today.. so far i have tried

YES! I feel the same way...Crissakes man! Why give money to BIG COMPANIES whos shit DOESN'T WORK???

I'm on Unleashed/Post-Cycle (PF) and Sustain (Primordial) right now.... I'm going to give AMP 02 a shot first...as I LIKE THE CAFFIENE effect..and the Herbals tear me up... I've ordered "vigor"...but hey, I look at it like I'm spreading the love.

So spread the love man!

M
 
Ok, I'm all for trying new supplements...god knows I've tried more than my share...

I looked at the ingredients in Vigor... I've tried pure catuaba extract before...it's supposed to increase libido...wasn't too impressed.... arginine is found in all other NO2 products, so nothing different there... is Cassis Grandis the answer here? Its proported to treat anemia in South America and erections are a side effect. Never tried this stuff so I can't say anything about it.
 
njmuscleguy said:
Ok, I'm all for trying new supplements...god knows I've tried more than my share...

I looked at the ingredients in Vigor... I've tried pure catuaba extract before...it's supposed to increase libido...wasn't too impressed.... arginine is found in all other NO2 products, so nothing different there... is Cassis Grandis the answer here? Its proported to treat anemia in South America and erections are a side effect. Never tried this stuff so I can't say anything about it.


There are a few supps out now that contain NO2 and are calling themselves blood expanders. VIGOR is different in several ways.

It has guarana which makes the NO2 more effective. The NO2 is less upsetting to the stomach. Catuaba does not increase libido but it has other benefits including improving spermatogenisis. VIGOR also contains dibencoside which is a coenzyme of B12 making it as potent and absorbable as a B12 injection. It also contains folic acid which is enormously important to steroid users since it not only helps regenerate cells, it breaks down homocycsteine, lowers blood pressure and prevents blood clots which is one of the contraindications of steroid use. It also contains a form of soluble iron which does not build up causing potential toxicity so you get the red blood cell increase without the risks.

But it's the Cassis Grandis that is really remarkable. It increases plasma and red blood cell count and has been used to treat anemia, yet it contains no iron. And although the libido boost is anecdotal, it seems to be confirmed by its users. Put it all together and I think VIGOR is a pretty good thing to add.
 
Nelson Montana said:
There are a few supps out now that contain NO2 and are calling themselves blood expanders. VIGOR is different in several ways.

It has guarana which makes the NO2 more effective. The NO2 is less upsetting to the stomach. Catuaba does not increase libido but it has other benefits including improving spermatogenisis. VIGOR also contains dibencoside which is a coenzyme of B12 making it as potent and absorbable as a B12 injection. It also contains folic acid which is enormously important to steroid users since it not only helps regenerate cells, it breaks down homocycsteine, lowers blood pressure and prevents blood clots which is one of the contraindications of steroid use. It also contains a form of soluble iron which does not build up causing potential toxicity so you get the red blood cell increase without the risks.

But it's the Cassis Grandis that is really remarkable. It increases plasma and red blood cell count and has been used to treat anemia, yet it contains no iron. And although the libido boost is anecdotal, it seems to be confirmed by its users. Put it all together and I think VIGOR is a pretty good thing to add.



IT IS a good thing. 2 days after my first review I've done Back, Biceps, Legs and there is a very big notorious difference; pumps are very nice and strength is up; resistance and performance is greatly improved too. This supp has to be a great addition for PCT also.
 
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