For those interested: My review on VIGOR from PF

[DJ_UFO]

First of all, the shit WORKS.
Second, there is definitely a cumulative effect.

I've been taking it for 10 days. First 3 days at the gym felt nothing and saw nothing. For different reasons couldn't workout from Wednesday til today. I've been taking VIGOR everyday anyways because of the experiement, and I don't know if it is coincidence or not but I get harder woods...I dunno about that. I had a looong weekend, bad sleep, bad nutrition, lot of drinks, work, etc...so today, detoxified I went to the gym prepared to feel weak, tired and with less strength.

Here comes the nice part. Strength was through the roof!! I felt like I've been workin out every day and eating right! I was easily using the same weights, and they even felt easier than before! One more thing: you definitely get a special energy from this; is like you can do your reps faster without getting fatigued.

The other nice effect: PUMPS Dianabol - methandrostenolone - -LIKE. They are real; I'm not lying; Very nice painful hard pumps; feels like being on again lol


Bad effect: Diahrrea (sp?) the first days had bad and noisy cramps and had to poo like 2 times a day. Now is like my body is getting used to it.

I've been using 2 doses. One at lunch, the other before workout; usually around 7PM.

The first day felt like high and nervous from the guarana and its caffeine but now I'm completely used to that.

Overall, great product!!!! I will definitely use it again, stacked with Omega's RawMcc and G-covery which gives me nice results.

 

[xrsist]

interesting.. thanks for sharing bro

 

[DJ_UFO]

you're welcome...the product is very well designed. Props to Nelson who I think helped design the product.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Ha! Love it! Glad to hear it's working for you bro.

Yep, I designed it and it contains an ingredient in no other product. VIGOR really is a legit "strength" supplement. It's also the only supp that inceases vascularity. (Best if taken with some carbs pre workout).

And yeah, the same ingredient that improves blood count is regarded in Costa Rica (the place of its origin) as an aphrodisiac.

 

[jumpmaster82]

great to hear bro. Im really interested in some products from PF but I get kinda skeptical only cuz I know ppl on the board will profit from it. So when I hear other bro's reviews of this stuff it helps with making my decisions.

 

[jaybois]

great to hear bro. Im really interested in some products from PF but I get kinda skeptical only cuz I know ppl on the board will profit from it. So when I hear other bro's reviews of this stuff it helps with making my decisions.

Somebody profits from everything you buy.

 

[calveless wonder]

is it essentially a pre workout supp similar to amplify02 or NoExplode?

I enjoy both of the above and they work well...willing to try some of the PF stuff but don't want to overlap supps that do essentially the same thing

 

[the_alcatraz]

Good stuff man....congrats Nelson....another fine product!

 

[Nelson Montana]

is it essentially a pre workout supp similar to amplify02 or NoExplode?

I enjoy both of the above and they work well...willing to try some of the PF stuff but don't want to overlap supps that do essentially the same thing

It's a pre-workout supp but works in a different way. True, both have NO2 but that's about where it ends. Amp 02 and NO2 have caffeine, creatine and tyrosine whereas VIGOR has herbs and nutrients. VIGOR is completely unique and as mentioned, the main ingredient is the Carao , which no other product contains.

The increase in strength from VIGOR doesn't come from stimulants or creatine but from enriched blood. I know it sounds weird, but it works.

One member mentioned taking VIGOR and Amp 02 together and said it was very intense. Add some ZIP and BIG BLAST and you will be seriously jacked without the "jitters."

 

[hurricane]

great to hear bro. Im really interested in some products from PF but I get kinda skeptical only cuz I know ppl on the board will profit from it. So when I hear other bro's reviews of this stuff it helps with making my decisions.

see im the opposite.. i try sponors stuff before anyone else cause i give them a chance 1st cause they help make this board what it is today.. so far i have tried

dx7- little pricey but feel way more natural energy since using and overall better feeling .. dont agree with people that said all multi are the same .. i was using mega man gold and i feel a big difference also hated animal pacs cause the big pills made me sick to my stomach, actually had to go back to mega man cause of this years ago ..love this stuff

amp02 and lipoflame- man u guys know how great this stuff is .. u dont mind stims these are the best stuff u can find for what they claim to do.. amp 02 makes me feel strong as a bull,adds energy and gives endurance .. lipo right before i run feel like i can run over 1 hr on the treadmill and getin the buring feel in my belly

dermacrine-needto was right bout this stuff .. have noticed increase sex drive.. strength gain ..even slight aggression ..hope its in my mind cause i feel a slight tingle in my scalp lol ... hope hair doesnt shead

big blast- bought havent really used much ..got other protein powers i still need to go threw ..plus alot of carbs in this and have been tryin 2 cut carbs..also made the mistake of not ordering sweetners an dosent taste to great =x this is the 1 product i really can comment on

overall this board got great sponors and they sell excellent products .. 1 million times better then u can find in gnc and better then any stuff i found else were on the net ..wouldnt be sceptical at all bout any of these guys ..peace

 

[Nelson Montana]

see im the opposite.. i try sponors stuff before anyone else cause i give them a chance 1st cause they help make this board what it is today.. so far i have tried

dx7- little pricey but feel way more natural energy since using and overall better feeling .. dont agree with people that said all multi are the same .. i was using mega man gold and i feel a big difference ..love this stuff

amp02 and lipoflame- man u guys know how great this stuff is .. u dont mind stims these are the best stuff u can find for what they claim to do.. amp 02 makes me feel strong as a bull,adds energy and gives endurance .. lipo right before i run feel like i can run over 1 hr on the treadmill and getin the buring feel in my belly

dermacrine-needto was right bout this stuff .. have noticed increase sex drive.. strength gain ..even slight aggression ..hope its in my mind cause i feel a slight tingle in my scalp lol ... hope hair doesnt shead

big blast- bought havent really used much got other protein powers i still need to go threw plus alot of carbs in this and have been tryin 2 cut carbs.. this is the 1 product i really can comment on

overall this board got great sponors and they sell excellent products .. 1 million times better then u can find in gnc and better then any stuff i found else were on the net ..wouldnt be sceptical at all bout any of these guys ..peace

Good call bro. Yeah, I'm not only proud of my line, I'm proud that the other sponsers put out good stuff and at a good price. Now that the "you know who store " is gone I'd say all EF sponsors have top notch stuff.

As for the BIG BLAST -- just taking it now and then would be a waste. You're better off waiting for a bulking stage, using it at least twice a day, and you'll really notice a change.

 

[DJ_UFO]

I respond very well in general to any natty supplement. I've had very good results with Omega's products (g-covery, rawmcc, amp02) and with PF's products (unleashed, post-cycle, Vigor) Results vary from user to user. The only shit that never worked for me was the old creatine monohydrate.

So no wonder Nelson the big woods! I knew there has to be something else with vigor cause I can't have my cock acting like a 15 year old...at 31. lol
And like Nelson said, there is no caffeine added with Vigor; there is just a little bit of naturally occuring caffeine from Guarana. But this makes it safe to stack it with something else that has caffeine on it like amp02 if you wanna get that shaky hands energy.

 

[hurricane]

I respond very well in general to any natty supplement. I've had very good results with Omega's products (g-covery, rawmcc, amp02) and with PF's products (unleashed, post-cycle, Vigor) Results vary from user to user. The only shit that never worked for me was the old creatine monohydrate.

So no wonder Nelson the big woods! I knew there has to be something else with vigor cause I can't have my cock acting like a 15 year old...at 31. lol
And like Nelson said, there is no caffeine added with Vigor; there is just a little bit of naturally occuring caffeine from Guarana. But this makes it safe to stack it with something else that has caffeine on it like amp02 if you wanna get that shaky hands energy.

i respone well to but not to crap... everything i have tried has been top notch on here so far .. knock on wood lol

 

[Nelson Montana]

i respone well to but not to crap... everything i have tried has been top notch on here so far .. knock on wood lol

I think the site is unique in that it was a place for legit sponsors to promote products that wouldn't be understood in many other places. Elsewhere, it's either bullshit Muscletech stuff geared to newbies or it's bullshit prohormone crap with twenty letter names geared to geeks who want to think they're scientists.

 

[corto]

nelson can you link me to your website, also do you take paypal?

 

[Nelson Montana]

nelson can you link me to your website, also do you take paypal?

It's not my site bro. The supps are sold through various outlets and that will soon include EF, but for now, you'll have to PM me.

 

[2raptors]

see im the opposite.. i try sponors stuff before anyone else cause i give them a chance 1st cause they help make this board what it is today.. so far i have tried

YES! I feel the same way...Crissakes man! Why give money to BIG COMPANIES whos shit DOESN'T WORK???

I'm on Unleashed/Post-Cycle (PF) and Sustain (Primordial) right now.... I'm going to give AMP 02 a shot first...as I LIKE THE CAFFIENE effect..and the Herbals tear me up... I've ordered "vigor"...but hey, I look at it like I'm spreading the love.

So spread the love man!

M

 

[njmuscleguy]

Ok, I'm all for trying new supplements...god knows I've tried more than my share...

I looked at the ingredients in Vigor... I've tried pure catuaba extract before...it's supposed to increase libido...wasn't too impressed.... arginine is found in all other NO2 products, so nothing different there... is Cassis Grandis the answer here? Its proported to treat anemia in South America and erections are a side effect. Never tried this stuff so I can't say anything about it.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Ok, I'm all for trying new supplements...god knows I've tried more than my share...

I looked at the ingredients in Vigor... I've tried pure catuaba extract before...it's supposed to increase libido...wasn't too impressed.... arginine is found in all other NO2 products, so nothing different there... is Cassis Grandis the answer here? Its proported to treat anemia in South America and erections are a side effect. Never tried this stuff so I can't say anything about it.

There are a few supps out now that contain NO2 and are calling themselves blood expanders. VIGOR is different in several ways.

It has guarana which makes the NO2 more effective. The NO2 is less upsetting to the stomach. Catuaba does not increase libido but it has other benefits including improving spermatogenisis. VIGOR also contains dibencoside which is a coenzyme of B12 making it as potent and absorbable as a B12 injection. It also contains folic acid which is enormously important to steroid users since it not only helps regenerate cells, it breaks down homocycsteine, lowers blood pressure and prevents blood clots which is one of the contraindications of steroid use. It also contains a form of soluble iron which does not build up causing potential toxicity so you get the red blood cell increase without the risks.

But it's the Cassis Grandis that is really remarkable. It increases plasma and red blood cell count and has been used to treat anemia, yet it contains no iron. And although the libido boost is anecdotal, it seems to be confirmed by its users. Put it all together and I think VIGOR is a pretty good thing to add.

 

[DJ_UFO]

There are a few supps out now that contain NO2 and are calling themselves blood expanders. VIGOR is different in several ways.

It has guarana which makes the NO2 more effective. The NO2 is less upsetting to the stomach. Catuaba does not increase libido but it has other benefits including improving spermatogenisis. VIGOR also contains dibencoside which is a coenzyme of B12 making it as potent and absorbable as a B12 injection. It also contains folic acid which is enormously important to steroid users since it not only helps regenerate cells, it breaks down homocycsteine, lowers blood pressure and prevents blood clots which is one of the contraindications of steroid use. It also contains a form of soluble iron which does not build up causing potential toxicity so you get the red blood cell increase without the risks.

But it's the Cassis Grandis that is really remarkable. It increases plasma and red blood cell count and has been used to treat anemia, yet it contains no iron. And although the libido boost is anecdotal, it seems to be confirmed by its users. Put it all together and I think VIGOR is a pretty good thing to add.

IT IS a good thing. 2 days after my first review I've done Back, Biceps, Legs and there is a very big notorious difference; pumps are very nice and strength is up; resistance and performance is greatly improved too. This supp has to be a great addition for PCT also.

 

[r9fanatik]

hello nelson im relative new at board , im interesting in vigor , i was taking amp 02 with good pumps but no energy that all , i need a supp that really makes me feel energy and go to the gym asap lol. Do u think that vigor will help me in this way or just in pumps etc?.
other question if i use vigor i have to buy a creatine? what creatine do u recommend me to stack with vigor.
Thanks

 

[AAP]

I would like to try it, however I have found that any NO2 type product gives me explosive diarrhea. (which I would just use PGCL if I wanted that.) I have under my counter untouched for months and 90% full jugs of NOXplode, NO Shotgun and the one by Gaspari SuperP(D)ump250 which was the worst of the lot.

I hate to purchase something and just never get to finish it. And none of the companies seem to have single serving sizes available that I could purchase a couple from to try out.

 

[Nelson Montana]

hello nelson im relative new at board , im interesting in vigor , i was taking amp 02 with good pumps but no energy that all , i need a supp that really makes me feel energy and go to the gym asap lol. Do u think that vigor will help me in this way or just in pumps etc?.
other question if i use vigor i have to buy a creatine? what creatine do u recommend me to stack with vigor.
Thanks

VIGOR works on a different principle than AMP 02. Although VIGOR will provide energy, it isn't a stimulant. Amp contains creatine but not as much as you can get elsewhere.

Here's my advice.

Pre-workout, use VIGOR and Lipoflame. That way you get the superior pump aspects of VIGOR but the Lipo is a stronger stim than Amp 02.

You may want to use ZIP along with that to hype the thyroid.

Immediately Post Workout use BIG BLAST contains creatine P12, the very best form as well as plasma serum protein.

There's also always the option of tracking down and adding some ephedrine but this stack will work very well for you.

 

[r9fanatik]

Thanks alot where i can buy this products??

 

[hurricane]

hello nelson im relative new at board , im interesting in vigor , i was taking amp 02 with good pumps but no energy that all , i need a supp that really makes me feel energy and go to the gym asap lol. Do u think that vigor will help me in this way or just in pumps etc?.
other question if i use vigor i have to buy a creatine? what creatine do u recommend me to stack with vigor.
Thanks

amp02 will give u more energy cause it has stims in it ..never used vigor but herd from a source its gives excellent pumps and strength ...if u use it use it for that

 

[Nelson Montana]

Thanks alot where i can buy this products??

VIGOR, ZIP and BIG BLAST will soon be available on Elite, for now go to protein factory .com Lipoflame is available through the site.