For the Veterans

[primobolicguru]

I was curious for some of you long term users of AAS with regular doc check ups. Does steroid use NOT ABUSE, mess up your long term natural test levels?? Im talkin several cycles. Hopefully someone who has used on and off for a few years can chime in.

 

[Zyglamail]

The only way to know this would be if one person could do both long term cycles and no cycles which isnt possible so just because one person does cycles for a long time and has issues doesnt mean the next guy will. There is no way to tell down the road, if you have been cycling and suffer a test decline, if it was due to your previous use or not.

 

[primobolicguru]

true. so maybe im lookin more for opinions. or someone who still has high test (doc said so) after being off for a while.

 

[DJ_UFO]

I haven't seen a study on research about it, I don't have a log of my test levels, but it makes sense that the use of steroids cause permanent damage to the pituitary gland. You might be able to perfectly recover after one or two cycles. But if you keep doing it, over and over while at the same time you are aging, you are speeding up the process of decreasing your natural levels way faster than at a natural level.

 

[Nelson Montana]

It depends on a lot of things. If you take it easy on the dosage and duration I believe you can do steroids for a few years and recover completely if you do a proper PCT after each cycle. However, AGE is a big factor. If you're still cycling in your 40's it becomes tougher to recover completely and most guys opt for HRT. But even on PCT, I take a break -- use HCG for a while, then do a PCT, then go back on HRT. It seems to work out better that way.

I didn't need PCT till I was 45, but if I had what was available now (UNLEASHED, BRIDGE, et al) I probably could have held out even longer. But at this point, HRT is a must.

 

[stevesmi]

I believe it does. just imagine you have a well in ur yard. and you dump pesticides every now and then on your lawn.. eventually your well will get polluted over time. the body is the same way.

this is why i advocate not messing with steroids until you are in ur late 20's at the earliest. and you cycle on and off conservatively. that gives you the best chance to tough it out.

 

[primobolicguru]

I think you guys are prolly right. thanks for the input!

 

[bren565]

It depends on a lot of things. If you take it easy on the dosage and duration I believe you can do steroids for a few years and recover completely if you do a proper PCT after each cycle. However, AGE is a big factor. If you're still cycling in your 40's it becomes tougher to recover completely and most guys opt for HRT. But even on PCT, I take a break -- use HCG for a while, then do a PCT, then go back on HRT. It seems to work out better that way.

I didn't need PCT till I was 45, but if I had what was available now (UNLEASHED, BRIDGE, et al) I probably could have held out even longer. But at this point, HRT is a must.

just curious but what are the ruls for hrt?

what do you have to do to get it? legally?

and can it be done in canada?