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FOR THE PRO-WAR PEOPLE...Here is a little eye opener.

2Thick said:
In addition, here is a little Persian history:

Fought against Ottaman Empire (and won)...they are Sunni

Fought against Iraq and pretty much won (considering that 114 countries were helping Iraq)...they are Sunni

In the war between Azerbaijan (Shi'ite muslims) and Armenia (Eastern Orthodox Catholic), Iran helped Armenia.

In the conflicts between India (Hindu) and Pakistan (Muslim), Iran helped India.

Umm...i'm not sure what you mean by all this????

Persians fought against Sunni Muslims....

Persians fought against Sunni Muslims....

Persians helped Armenia against Azerbaijan because Azerbaijan are basically Turks....And the Persians HATE the Turks. ALso, Iran has many Economical ties with Armenia.

Regardless of who they have backed in the past....The muslims believe theis is a holy war. Its the US imposing their will and colonizing the Mid east. They will fight with the SHia Iraqis against the Americans...
 
2Thick said:
Blowing a 3rd world shithole into a 3rd world shithole does not mean that you have control of a country.
Though I'd label Iraq a mild step up from third world (Baghadad anyway), this is dead on. We could level every building in Iraq if we so desired. But until we have men on the ground ocupying the rubble, we have not "taken" the country.
 
SUST-MAN said:



Persians helped Armenia against Azerbaijan because Azerbaijan are basically Turks....And the Persians HATE the Turks. ALso, Iran has many Economical ties with Armenia.

Once again, your ignorance of this region is exposed. Almost 40% of Iranians are Azeri Turk. They control the whole Northwest section of Iran. Plus Azerbaijan was part of Persia up until 1917 (when it joined the Soviet Union).

They will fight with the SHia Iraqis against the Americans...

No, they will not. They will pay the Iraqis to fight, but Persians will not fight with them.
 
2Thick said:


Once again, your ignorance of this region is exposed. Almost 40% of Iranians are Azeri Turk. They control the whole Northwest section of Iran. Plus Azerbaijan was part of Persia up until 1917 (when it joined the Soviet Union).



No, they will not. They will pay the Iraqis to fight, but Persians will not fight with them.


First of all 2 thick.....
I'm not a child. Your petty insults only diminish your intelligence. (a) Let me get this strait....Are you trying to say, that the AZERI-TURKS in Iran....Helped the Armenians fight against Azerbaijan? DOES THIS MAKE SENCE TO YOU?

(b) And when the Iraqis get defeated....THe iranians.....AKA persians....still will not fight?

2 thick....Cmon....Your missing the point. All muslims are looking at this as the United States against ISLAM. You can say what you want...but you seem to think that the iranians would not fight with the Shia President of iraq.....against an American Agression.
 
SUST-MAN said:


First of all 2 thick.....
I'm not a child. Your petty insults only diminish your intelligence.

I never said that you were a child. I was not trying to insult you. I was merely pointing out that you do not know as much as you think you do about that region.

(a) Let me get this strait....Are you trying to say, that the AZERI-TURKS in Iran....Helped the Armenians fight against Azerbaijan? DOES THIS MAKE SENCE TO YOU?

Yes, because they are Persian first, then Azeri. Plus it was not military support. It was only financial.


(b) And when the Iraqis get defeated....THe iranians.....AKA persians....still will not fight?

No, they will not. It is not in their interest to help Iraq. They will only fund Shi'ites in Iraq

2 thick....Cmon....Your missing the point. All muslims are looking at this as the United States against ISLAM. You can say what you want...but you seem to think that the iranians would not fight with the Shia President of iraq.....against an American Agression.

Iranians are Persian first, then Muslim. If they want to help other Muslims, they do it with money and training. Why do you think that no invading force has ever permanently defeated the Persians in over 6000 years? It is because they fight for their culture and their identity, not some shallow religion.
 
But 2 thick....

WE WILL BE ATTACKING IRAN. They have to know that they will be next. I agree that we will first try a dimplomatic solution with iran...But this BUSH admin will eventually want a millitary invasion. I cant believe you dont think that the Iranians dont feel that they might get attacked soon.

You might not think that we will attack iran, but if you do your research on PNAC, then you see that its all in the plans. Wether its the right or wrong thing to do....It is in our plans.
 
SUST-MAN said:
But 2 thick....

WE WILL BE ATTACKING IRAN. They have to know that they will be next. I agree that we will first try a dimplomatic solution with iran...But this BUSH admin will eventually want a millitary invasion. I cant believe you dont think that the Iranians dont feel that they might get attacked soon.

You might not think that we will attack iran, but if you do your research on PNAC, then you see that its all in the plans. Wether its the right or wrong thing to do....It is in our plans.

I guess time will tell.

Although the Bush admin is out in 2004, so they better hurry up.
 
I know...I know....we dont know what will happen until it happens..

I'm just getting really anxious. There are so many opinions and theories.....WHO WILL BE RIGHT?

2thick....why do you think BUSH will be out in 2004. I know his papa also had great public opinion...but if he does win the iraq war without many casualties...thats 2 wars "WON" in his war on terror.

I think many people will actually think that defeating the taliban and Saddam has really slowed down terrorism.
 
SUST-MAN said:
I know...I know....we dont know what will happen until it happens..

I'm just getting really anxious. There are so many opinions and theories.....WHO WILL BE RIGHT?

2thick....why do you think BUSH will be out in 2004. I know his papa also had great public opinion...but if he does win the iraq war without many casualties...thats 2 wars "WON" in his war on terror.

I think many people will actually think that defeating the taliban and Saddam has really slowed down terrorism.

He barely won last time and people did not know what a doofus he was or how destructive his admin is.

Now people know better.
 
2Thick said:


He barely won last time and people did not know what a doofus he was or how destructive his admin is.

Now people know better.

Just to play devil's advocate...his approval ratings recently have been higher than ever before.
 
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