FOR THE PRO-WAR PEOPLE...Here is a little eye opener.

[CanadianCripple]

See, the thing is, I don't honestly see this war ending until all ME contries are brought under some kind of reasonable control. The tribal situation is going to be a problem, but it will have to be dealt with. I would hope that spreading the wealth and massive infrastucture programs might keep their minds occupied for awhile. It's amazing what a booming economy & lots of money can do for a peoples' tolerance.


While that's going on, the Israeli/Palestinian issue will have to be dealt with. Then Iran or Syria can next on the hit list... if needed.

 

[SUST-MAN]

Upper....

That makes alot of sence to you and me.....It sounds extremly logical....thats why its so easy for the BUSH admin to sell it. Cause it makes sence...

UNLESS....

Unless your dealing with people who do not think like you and I. People who are not interested in material goods. People who believe that true happiness can only exist if you follow the laws of the QU'RAN to the T..

These people want to live their own way. The Sunnis....yes, you can befriend them. They are secular....But not the Shia.

 

[CanadianCripple]

Upper....


Unless your dealing with people who do not think like you and I. People who are not interested in material goods. People who believe that true happiness can only exist if you follow the laws of the QU'RAN to the T..

These people want to live their own way. The Sunnis....yes, you can befriend them. They are secular....But not the Shia.

I think you're going to be very surprised at what people will want.

Answer this question... What is the Middle East without oil?

 

[2Thick]

Why cant you see that Sunni muslims are SECULAR...

About 20% of Iranians are fundamentalists.

There are far more Sunni fundamentalists (i.e Saudi Arabia) than Shi'tes.

 

[SUST-MAN]

2 thick,,,Where did you get that info? Its well known that 95% of iranians in iran are Shia

http://populations.com/country.asp?ID=77

Although it is true, that the majority of ALL muslims in the mid east are Sunni.

 

[SUST-MAN]

Here is another link

http://islamicweb.com/beliefs/cults/shia_population.htm

 

[2Thick]

2 thick,,,Where did you get that info? Its well known that 95% of iranians in iran are Shia

http://populations.com/country.asp?ID=77

Although it is true, that the majority of ALL muslims in the mid east are Sunni.

Almost all Iranians are Shi'ite but only 20% are fundamentalists.

The remaining 80% are almost secular. They only pay lip-service to Islam.

 

[DcupSheepNipples]

As far as fundamentalists go The Wahabis sect are the most fundamental in beliefs! I'm not including the terrorist groups or secs of the muslim religion, which are cancers within their religion!

 

[SUST-MAN]

2 thick....Thats lik,e saying 20% of Americans are SUPER PATRIOTIC....but the rest dont care.

I dont know where you got this number....but if 20% a fundamentalist.....thats a hell of alot of people. And when the US tries to invade yet another muslim state....dont you think the remaining 75% will jump on the bandwagon.

Cmon....Even the SHia in Iraq are putting up a fight...and they hate saddam!

 

[Silent Method]

Silent Method...

i am not a liberal. I agree with almost NO democratic policies...but does that mean that i must blindly follow everything that the conservatives say...EVEN IF I DISAGREE?

You may not be a liberal, but the thrust of this thread follows a liberal mentality. And no, please don't blindly follow everything ANYONE says.

Please provide me with a scenerio where the US will be victorious.

I'm certainly not going to outline a series of scenarios in the manner of the article you posted. One of the flaws of the article is the authors linear thinking - this action guarantees this action guarantees this action etc., etc.

We will be victorious when we reduce the threat of a cohesive, organized, murderous regime intent on the facilitation of harm to American (and other) citizens.

Yes, many don't believe Iraq is a threat. Yes, this is easier said than done. Yes, there are many obstacles to over come. Yes, there are many, many ways we could fail. Yes, we could even end up failing.

These should be a common set of ideas anyone who has formed any decision either way on this war should have already considered, and continue to consider. To assume that the anti-war crowd has the monopoly on the consideration of these ideas (as I feel is implied by your thread, both in title and in content) is absurd.

By the way, i dont blame you people for thinking the way you do. 99% of the American Public doesnot truely understand the muslim people. You seem to think that they are "JUST LIKE US"....

Now this is an eye opener. You have no grounds from which to base my concept of "Muslim people." I don't think the people in the next county are "just like us" in my county. I sure as hell understand that the people in the Iraqi region are worlds away in many respects.

Honestly! Most people still think Saddam has links to 9-11!!

Regardless, here is one fact we do know. Immediately after 9/11, Saddam announced to the world that he praised the mass murderers and pledged support, both in principal and financially, to terrorist attacks.