foamy urine

[makaveli25]

for about a week or soo I have had really foamy urine. I read that It can be a sign of protien going into the bladder from the kidneys.. Only suplement im taking right now is dermacrine.. I have been drinking quite a bit on the weekends that my have something to do with it..I cut that out.. Ive been drinking tons of water and cranberry juice.. Is the dermacrine toxic? Im going to the doc on tuesday I just want know what I can do to clear this up.

 

[liquid1234]

foamy urine might be a sign of nephrotic syndrome (>3.5g protein in urine).....there are several nephrotic glomerulopathies----if you are going to your dr today that is good, he will prob collect some urine, and maybe have you collect a 24h urine sample----
keep me posted curious to see what happens---good luck
Liquid

 

[Tatyana]

Foaming urine is not an accurate indicator of protein in urine, it has more to do with the distance and velocity of urination.

It could be checked in the doctor's surgery with a dip stick, a random total protein sample for the lab, or a blood test for urea, creatinine, sodium and potassium.

 

[liquid1234]

yeah thats why i said "might".....typical buzz word is "foam of a glass of beer"....obviously need 24 hr urine collection as i stated above----could be mixed nephrotic/nephritc syndrome so uranalysis would deff be helpful
Liquid

 

[Tatyana]

yeah thats why i said "might".....typical buzz word is "foam of a glass of beer"....obviously need 24 hr urine collection as i stated above----could be mixed nephrotic/nephritc syndrome so uranalysis would deff be helpful
Liquid

I would avoid the 24 hour urine test, seriously, who really wants to collect urine for 24 hours unless they really, really have to.

They have mostly been eliminated in the UK for testing renal function. Estimated GFRs from blood is as accurate if you use Cockroft-Gault formula.

 

[liquid1234]

yes yes thats true, the 24 hr urine collection is a pain, but is useful in diagnosis-----UA will show 3+ to 4+ protein on dipstick.....also like u stated tatyana, if nephrotic syndrome (spilling protein) blood work will look something like this: the bun/cr will be elevated; hyperlipidemia; decreased t-protein and decreased albumin-----also signs of hypercoagulable state ie: dvt, PE
Liquid

 

[timtim]

tatyana

my gp is a nephrologist. i was there and got hrt bloodwork. i went at 5 in the afternoon. the bloodwork, after eating 3 protein meals, showed my creatinine and bun were off. he said this would mean my kidneys are functioing at 60%. he then asked me about my diet. he then said i was on a training regiment. he said diet related and that was it. i am alittle panicked but not sure what to think. i want to go again in the am on a 24 hour protein stavation which is gonna suck. he said the tests at that time of day arent valid because of the fact that i had eaten so close to the test.

i also read an article which said this could be expected based on the lifestyle and that the body had adapted to it and wasnt really having that negative effect.

thoughts?

 

[Tatyana]

tatyana

my gp is a nephrologist. i was there and got hrt bloodwork. i went at 5 in the afternoon. the bloodwork, after eating 3 protein meals, showed my creatinine and bun were off. he said this would mean my kidneys are functioing at 60%. he then asked me about my diet. he then said i was on a training regiment. he said diet related and that was it. i am alittle panicked but not sure what to think. i want to go again in the am on a 24 hour protein stavation which is gonna suck. he said the tests at that time of day arent valid because of the fact that i had eaten so close to the test.

i also read an article which said this could be expected based on the lifestyle and that the body had adapted to it and wasnt really having that negative effect.

thoughts?

I am glad to hear more clinicians are realising that there are issues with creatinine.

It is elevated from cooked meat meals, as creatinine is the breakdown product of creatine, which is the molecule that transfers energy (ATP) to your muscle so they can contract.

As well, the more muscle you have, the more creatine therefore the more creatinine.

Urea is from the breakdown of protein, so a higher protein diet will also result in a higher urea level. It can also be elevated in dehydration.

He is being quite responsible with your tests, as it is so much easier to slow any renal issues than sort out your kidneys once they are damaged.

I have had high creatine and urea levels on and off, I have even been one of the case studies on grand rounds because of the rapid change in my creatinine levels due to creatine supplementation.

I also just had an elevated creatine after three meals, then being bled.

It sucks you have to protein fast, I would ask if an overnight 10 hour fast is ok with him as well.

 

[liquid1234]

an over night fast should be fine---but as tatyana stated your lifestyle---weight lifting (more muscle mass than the avg joe), increase protein consumption both will give you an increased bun/creatine ratio......hey tatyana, can you share the changes in bun/creatine that occured when you were supplementing creatine and post studies as well??
Liquid

 

[timtim]

I am glad to hear more clinicians are realising that there are issues with creatinine.

It is elevated from cooked meat meals, as creatinine is the breakdown product of creatine, which is the molecule that transfers energy (ATP) to your muscle so they can contract.

As well, the more muscle you have, the more creatine therefore the more creatinine.

Urea is from the breakdown of protein, so a higher protein diet will also result in a higher urea level. It can also be elevated in dehydration.

He is being quite responsible with your tests, as it is so much easier to slow any renal issues than sort out your kidneys once they are damaged.

I have had high creatine and urea levels on and off, I have even been one of the case studies on grand rounds because of the rapid change in my creatinine levels due to creatine supplementation.

I also just had an elevated creatine after three meals, then being bled.

It sucks you have to protein fast, I would ask if an overnight 10 hour fast is ok with him as well.

ok! i am so relieved after talking with a knowledgeable person besides my doc and seeing his rationale. thank you! really appreciate it.

ill also give you stats on me and see what you think. i feel this is an adaptation.

21 years training this summer. serious training and dieting - 11 years.

5'5" 192 this morning. rebounded alittle as i added calories before going lower - zig zag approach. going down to 9% bf in the next 12 weeks. no gear for nearly a year. if i get to 180 slow and really watch my mass, i could be 180 and 9% at 5'5" natural. i have back fat that is like plaster so its truely the last bit to go. motherfucker. staying natural till hrt, 3 to 5 more years.

so as you can see this has been 2/3 of my life. i love my doc, dude has been real good to me. he is in independent practice and you wait 2 to 3 hours everytime for your turn but he is with you as long as it takes and thats the wait. it sucks, but its worth it. i feel so much better now. thanks. been with this guy going 6 years now.

 

[Tatyana]

an over night fast should be fine---but as tatyana stated your lifestyle---weight lifting (more muscle mass than the avg joe), increase protein consumption both will give you an increased bun/creatine ratio......hey tatyana, can you share the changes in bun/creatine that occured when you were supplementing creatine and post studies as well??
Liquid

I am sure I posted a thread about it or had the results in one of my training journals.

It would be in the women's section, maybe anabolic.

I also have a thread tracking my hypothyroidism diagnosis and levothyroxine therapy in the women's section.

 

[makaveli25]

lots of intelligent people on this board thats a lot of good information.. My blood pressure goes up quite a bit during cycle.. when i come off it hovers at borderline hypertension.. Today my resting bp was 135 over 78 I want to get it down to 120 I just dont want to loose the hard earned size to bring it down.. Ive gotten a fish oil capsules red grape extract and a few other things im gonna increase my cardio.. Im worried my bordeline high bp will cause kindey problems and other problems down the road.. Im only 25 soo taking meds is not what I want

 

[liquid1234]

mak----delete some of your PM's saying ur box is overloaded--

 

[needtogetaas]

for about a week or soo I have had really foamy urine. I read that It can be a sign of protien going into the bladder from the kidneys.. Only suplement im taking right now is dermacrine.. I have been drinking quite a bit on the weekends that my have something to do with it..I cut that out.. Ive been drinking tons of water and cranberry juice.. Is the dermacrine toxic? Im going to the doc on tuesday I just want know what I can do to clear this up.

lmao NO bro its not.

 

[ALIN]

for about a week or soo I have had really foamy urine. I read that It can be a sign of protien going into the bladder from the kidneys.. Only suplement im taking right now is dermacrine.. I have been drinking quite a bit on the weekends that my have something to do with it..I cut that out.. Ive been drinking tons of water and cranberry juice.. Is the dermacrine toxic? Im going to the doc on tuesday I just want know what I can do to clear this up.

You say your already drinking additional water. See a doctor and let us know what they find.