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Flu shots. You getting one?

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hardrock

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Seems the flu is pretty bad this year spreading across the south western states. the company that makes the shot is outof stock. While I normally do not get the shot if it is that bad this year I think I may before the clinics run out. Also starting a cycle very soon and would hate to get that shit in the middle.

Any thoughts?

Here's a link http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,104902,00.html
 
I won't be getting one.

I heard if your body is strong, you should just fight it off if you catch it.


Besides, everyone knows that the government puts experimental chemicals inside the flu shots :D
 
i just watched a headline about a guy that got his penis accidentaly removed.

fuck a doctor

only needls i get better have gear in em.
 
Nooooooooo......

Maybe just a coincidence but the only time I ever got a flu shot I was sick all friggin winter long.
 
I got one a month ago.

I got hit with the flu last week, and it was more of a minor annoyance than really being sick. It's definately worth getting, as it helps you fight off the flu with minimal suffering in a matter of days rather than weeks.
 
i dont believe in them. i rarely get sick. the past four times that i've gotten ill is due to food poisoning
 
They forced my company to get one. I'd gladly have passed on it, but don't have that option. They poke me with so many needles that I don't know what I've gotten shots for.
 
last year i skipped the shot. i flew around the holidays and came down with the flu and it was like the worst hell you can imagine.

i lost ten lbs in a week and missed five days of work. you cannot imagine how sick you get until you actually have the true influenza (not a bad cold).

i will never NOT get a flu shot again. i had mine weeks ago and i understand it is now hard to get in the face of an epidemic.

i am not convinced there will be a major outbreak. the press loves a story like a scary virus to blow out of proportion so they can get higher ratings. remember how we were all going to die of SARS?
 
i don't get flu shots.

I just listen to my body....it gives you signs of fighting infection all the time.

Then just take the proper steps- sleep alot, take extra vit C, suck zinc lozenges or halls defense or whatever constantly.

for me it always ends up gone before it can truly affect my life.
 
chewy you may listen to your body but microorganisms are sneaky. they can infect you when you are stressed or not sleeping well or close to a person who is sick and contagious.

you can still catch a flu or a cold if you are healthy and not immune to that particular strain. that is why a flu shot is recommended.
 
i'm not saying my method is fullproof...i agree with what you said...

just saying that i haven't had any flu shots and this method has worked pretty well for me so far.
 
JohnnyMolson said:
I got one a month ago.

I got hit with the flu last week, and it was more of a minor annoyance than really being sick. It's definately worth getting, as it helps you fight off the flu with minimal suffering in a matter of days rather than weeks.
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I didn't get one last year and I caught it twice and was out of commission for about a month.

I had mine about 8 weeks ago.

Sucks getting old.
 
i didnt ever get them until like glends i got so sick i was down and out for 13days and it was a full month after that till i felt 'normal' or like i was back to where i was before again..combine that with being just past 35 and i usually get one in oct. Interestingly enuff,i got a pneumonia vaccine last year also in oct and it was the first fall/winter i wasnt plagued with nagging sinus shit at least 1 rip roaring cold.

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I have only been sick a handful of times in my life since I was about 13. Assuming you don't count drunken "illness".

I did get sick last winter, and that was the first time in a long time.

I won't be getting a flu shot.
 
NEVER had "the flu" before... never had a flu shot either... my mom got the flu like a week after getting her "flu shot" ... which makes sense... aren't they essentially giving you a weak strain of the virus :D to help your system build up immunity?
 
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honestly people Thera-Flu hot drinks work. even if you just have a cold, you'll feel a lot better drinking that shit
 
isn't that just liquid acetomenophen? Pain reducers aren't going to help much if you get the flu... people are talking about prevention not minimalization of symptoms.
 
yes theraflu may RELIEVE your symtpoms temporarily but does nothing to aid ridding your body of the flu virus.

i don't know if the manufacturers do it on purpose, but that stuff tastes totally disgusting. maybe they are trying to make it taste mediciney so people think it is effective. having the flu is more enjoybable than drinking that sh*t.
 
Y Lifter a lot of the posters on this thread are younger guys who think they will never get the flu. i did not get it till i was 35 so it may be true you are more likely to catch it as you get older.

the "experts" say it is very possible we will see a major flu pandemic in the next ten years that has the potential to kill millions. that is how serious the flu can be. it is more than a bad cold.

my brother in law said his great grandparents were killed by the major flu outbreak of 1919-1920. apparantly this can still happen. the shot may prevent the flu but there is still no cure.
 
theres nothing wrong with getting a flu shot. in fact, for most people, its a great idea

most flu shots you will see on the market are not attenuated/whole virii, they are ripped up antigens so theres no chance of backwards infection. if you can afford it and are prone then why not

i wont be getting a shot just now since im not working (in my line of work it really is the front line for any infection) and im currently in the throes of a flu- sore throat, muscle aches, lethargy, lightheadedness, headache

it sucks balls i must say. havnt had anything like this in a while
 
Rex said:
They forced my company to get one. I'd gladly have passed on it, but don't have that option. They poke me with so many needles that I don't know what I've gotten shots for.
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No kidding, I've had 17 shots since Jan. I got my flu shot, another hep A and hep B on friday. No wonder my shoulders always hurt!

SGM E

:confused:
 
the word "flu" is thrown around so much these days that people have become desensitized to how serious it is. when people get mild food poisining they call it the "stomach flu." when people get a bad cold they often mistakenly call it the flu. even people on this board call the flu LIKE symptoms from test the "test flu."

the true flu is when you are infected with the influenza virus. anyone who has had it knows how incredibly sick you get.
 
I guess it's here...the flu... and everyone's sick around here. Thank God I got my shot, I still feel weak and have a chest congestion, but not as bad as it would have been. Was nice to lay around the house all day for once.
 
bor i tol du its a ploy they trying to get u sick so you're lik ewtf i need flu'ness wtf gimme shot. I tell you, if ou are man like the rst uf us i get u fkin well. - ivan.
 
Watch your kids if they got a flu. I just read an article on CNN site, hospitals are full of kids with major flu complications.
Don't let your kid go to school and infect others!
I really hate how they don't inforce it here.
 
Russian KGB said:
Watch your kids if they got a flu. I just read an article on CNN site, hospitals are full of kids with major flu complications.
Don't let your kid go to school and infect others!
I really hate how they don't inforce it here.
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We just had a child die in my area from flu complications. She had asthma, and the flu combined to kill her. :(
 
the holidays are the perfect opportunity for the flu virus to spread like wildfire. this is the time of year we go to crowded airports and planes, see more movies, and go to xmas parties. if there really turns out to be a large outbreak it will happen in late decemeber/early january.
 
glennds said:
the holidays are the perfect opportunity for the flu virus to spread like wildfire. this is the time of year we go to crowded airports and planes, see more movies, and go to xmas parties. if there really turns out to be a large outbreak it will happen in late decemeber/early january.
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be afraid, be very afraid

the germs are gunna get us!!!

:wodin:
 
Russian KGB said:
I guess it's here...the flu... and everyone's sick around here. Thank God I got my shot, I still feel weak and have a chest congestion, but not as bad as it would have been. Was nice to lay around the house all day for once.
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Russian i haven't heard anyone down here getting sick yet although the local news is salivating for some news about it. (INFANT DIES OF FLU!!) glad youre feeling better.
 
glennds said:


Russian i haven't heard anyone down here getting sick yet although the local news is salivating for some news about it. (INFANT DIES OF FLU!!) glad youre feeling better.
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Hey G_,

I just watched news and they announced 29 lethal cases of flu in the US. I can't even see my doctor till next week, they are booked up, but I bought antibiotics in Mexico, so I am taking some, and no, I am not feeling better, and I have a BUUUUSY weekend to look forward to.
Last year I didn't get a flu shot and was sick for 2 months, Amoxicilin and other antibs didn't do much for me.
Then he prescribed one called "Ceftin Cefuroxima", a little pricey, but just 2 pills worked magic.

P.S. Hey G_, I have to ask you something.... later....
 
it is good to hear from you. i am sorry you are not feeling well. i came down with the flu last year and i got so sick it was unbelievable. give me a call at my office or PM me. :)

btw it sounds like the medications you used were antibiotics which are useless against a viral infection. doctors will often prescribe them to appease a patient. it is easier to just prescribe something than explain why it is useless to do so.

sometimes antiobiotics will be prescribed to prevent a secondary infection from a bacterial infection after your immune system is weakened by a viral infection.
 
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At school they're advising the nursing students to get flu shots as a version of SARS will quite likely hit the US this winter. So if you get a really severe flu and have had a flu shot, it can hint that the problem is actually SARS.
 
No. A flu shot doesn't protect against SARS, but since SARS is very hard to diagnose and looks like the flu, if you've had a flu shot it can clue the dr's in that your flu symptoms aren't likely from influenza.
 
Remember that it takes weeks for your body to develop immunity
after getting the shot.. Get it now, and you could still get the flu if exposed soon after..

You all should have gotten it back in October
 
raina isn't SARS a form of viral pneumonia? would the flu shot have any effectiveness against it?
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1. A vaccine has to be developed for each strain of a virus. The basic premise is that you give a weakened strain so your own immune system develops the immunity.

2. The current flu vaccine doesn't protect from every flu virus currently circulating in the population. Therefore, you could get a flu shot and still be vulnerable to different strains of the influenza virus( you would still get the flu).

3. Those most seriously affected by influenza are those with compromised immune systems, the very old and the very young. However, the 1917 influenza pandemic killed more people than WWI and uncharacteristically struck down those in their prime.
 
glennds said:

btw it sounds like the medications you used were antibiotics which are useless against a viral infection. doctors will often prescribe them to appease a patient. it is easier to just prescribe something than explain why it is useless to do so.

sometimes antiobiotics will be prescribed to prevent a secondary infection from a bacterial infection after your immune system is weakened by a viral infection.
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Well, I thought antibiotics are supposed to bust up your weakened immune system and help fighting the virus or bacteria. Isn't that so?
Back old days people would die from viral pneumonia until they came up with penecillin...
 
For some reason, I don't really trust putting any kind of viral material in to my body.

Engineered or not, I'll take my chances.
 
Well, I thought antibiotics are supposed to bust up your weakened immune system and help fighting the virus or bacteria. Isn't that so?
Back old days people would die from viral pneumonia until they came up with penecillin...
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Antibiotics can prevent opportunistic bacterial infections, essentially taking advantage of your over taxed immune system. They do nothing against a virus.
 
russian bacterial pneumonia is treated with antibioitics, not viral. antivirals are used for viral infections. i don't think there are antivirals for the flu, although they have some new medication that can shorten its length if you get it within the first few days of getting sick. how many people would acutally know it is the flu in the first few days is beyond me.
 
The flu shot only protects you for a year. However, for a healthy person to catch a strain would protect them for life from that strain again. If you are healthy, it is better to let nature take its course. Not to mention the egg allergies that can be created from them.
 
Don't get the flun SHOT, ask your doc for the flu MIST. It just came out this year and it covers 80% than the shot (including the most common strain which the shot does NOT). It's $65 but it's worth every penny. And even though I don't think anyone on this board is afraid of needles (ha!), this stuff they just spray up your nose. Like blow. Sorta.
 
JavaGuru said:


1. A vaccine has to be developed for each strain of a virus. The basic premise is that you give a weakened strain so your own immune system develops the immunity.

2. The current flu vaccine doesn't protect from every flu virus currently circulating in the population. Therefore, you could get a flu shot and still be vulnerable to different strains of the influenza virus( you would still get the flu).

3. Those most seriously affected by influenza are those with compromised immune systems, the very old and the very young. However, the 1917 influenza pandemic killed more people than WWI and uncharacteristically struck down those in their prime.
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A Flu Virus = a Rhinovirus

There are several strains and those strains undergo mutations, so developing a vaccine is almost near impossible for all.

No such thing as an Influenza virus. The pandemic in the 1910's was just called the Influenza pandemic, thats it.
The real culprit weas not a virus but a strain of air-surviving bacteria which normally cause pneumonia and then death in subsceptible individuals.

The influenza problem was treated with anti-biotics developed from penicillin. This obviously after the pandemic had killed 20 million people. Penicillin did not exist back then, when the pandemic broke out.

Fonz
 
the shot doesnt totally protect against fujian flu, which is the bastard that is killing the children....but it does provide partial protection so it will help u get better
 
No such thing as an Influenza virus. The pandemic in the 1910's was just called the Influenza pandemic, thats it.
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Correct in the sense there is no singular "influenza virus." The "flu" represents a classification of various viral infections that are characterized by specific symptoms.

You can read more about the 1917-1918 pandemic here;
http://www.stanford.edu/group/virus/uda/

if you really want a better understanding of influenza hit this link.

http://medicalecology.org/disease/influenza/d_influenza.html
 
I got the flu real bad like 2 weeks before they started giving out shots st my work (we get them for free)

I think I wasn't totally recovered hwen I eventually got it cos I had a bit of a relapse/
 
Fonz said:
A Flu Virus = a Rhinovirus

There are several strains and those strains undergo mutations, so developing a vaccine is almost near impossible for all.

No such thing as an Influenza virus. The pandemic in the 1910's was just called the Influenza pandemic, thats it.
The real culprit weas not a virus but a strain of air-surviving bacteria which normally cause pneumonia and then death in subsceptible individuals.

The influenza problem was treated with anti-biotics developed from penicillin. This obviously after the pandemic had killed 20 million people. Penicillin did not exist back then, when the pandemic broke out.

Fonz
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fonz i did some research on your post and must respectfully disagree on several points.

the influenza is certainly a virus on its own. there are even types a,b,and c. classic flu sypmtoms are brough on by a and b. c is more coldlike and milder,

rhinoviruses and coronaviruses cause common colds. there are almost 200 viruses, all broadly similar in their effects. (SARS may be caused by a coronavirus).

the spanish influenza pandemic in 1918.was cause by the type A virus. type A is highly unstabel and new strains constantly arise.

i am confused on your statement about penicillin. how could people infected with the flu be treated with penicillin if was not available yet? penicillin is useless against the flu virus.
 
glennds said:


fonz i did some research on your post and must respectfully disagree on several points.

the influenza is certainly a virus on its own. there are even types a,b,and c. classic flu sypmtoms are brough on by a and b. c is more coldlike and milder,

rhinoviruses and coronaviruses cause common colds. there are almost 200 viruses, all broadly similar in their effects. (SARS may be caused by a coronavirus).

the spanish influenza pandemic in 1918.was cause by the type A virus. type A is highly unstabel and new strains constantly arise.

i am confused on your statement about penicillin. how could people infected with the flu be treated with penicillin if was not available yet? penicillin is useless against the flu virus.
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Not useless against secondary infections such as pneumonias that arise from a compromised immun system.

Pneumonia is treated with broad-spectrum anti-bioctics.

Fonz
 
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