first time posting here and question

[JeSt3r]

i wouldnt go with clomid...just use nolva for ur whole PCT

 

[blut wump]

Some say steer clear of clomid as it hits their emotional balance quite hard. I've also read that nolva is just as effective as clomid but at a much lower required dose and thus less strain on the liver. As such, many suggest that clomid is now obsolete in favour of nolva.

 

[djgaler]

do as the master says my friend.
DJ
http://elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=376177

 

[PatBateman3]

I like your cycle, and though most here prefer Nolvadex, I actually like to cover my bases and use both for PCT.

 

[blut wump]

do as the master says my friend.
DJ
http://elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=376177

A great find and well worth sticking into my archive directory.

 

[Roidboyz]

could i save the nolva for a possable gyno flare up? and just stick with the clomid for my pct?
also was thinking incorporating some Dbol at 4-5 weeks

Sust 250 is great... Long ester(blend)....Takes about 4 weeks for me to feel it...This eguals longer pct.... If you don't respond well to it you have it in you for a long time..

On the D-bol... I wouldn't stact on your first cycle... And if your going to I would do the Dbol weeks 1-4 (short ester) ... That will get you going and you can be off just in time for the sust to kick in.....

Just my .02

RB

 

[TheRide]

Test is test, the only difference between the different preps is the absorbtion rate suspention and prop being faster acting, and Enath, Cyp being on the longer end of the scale. This is why I am a fan of Sust/Omnadr - you get the best of both world since it's a test blend.

8-10 weeks followed by your PCT is right on. Good luck

 

[blut wump]

Test is test, the only difference between the different preps is the absorbtion rate suspention and prop being faster acting, and Enath, Cyp being on the longer end of the scale. This is why I am a fan of Sust/Omnadr - you get the best of both world since it's a test blend.

8-10 weeks followed by your PCT is right on. Good luck

Not strictly true. The other difference between the various esters is weight. The longer the ester then the more weight is taken up with the ester and correspondingly less by the test. You should at least consider this effective drop in dose with the longer esters at a given weight and, maybe, compensate for it.

I did have a link somewhere showing the relative weights but it's disappeared.

 

[blut wump]

[snip]

Now, you have to remember that the ester is going to add more weight to the molecule. The larger the ester the less base steroid there is going to be in a 100mg steroid ester. You can use the following chart to figure this out:


Chemical Formula / Molecular Weight / Mg of Testosterone
Testosterone (no ester)
C19 H28 O2 288.4 100mg

Acetate
C2 H2 O 42.1 87.26mg

Propionate
C3 H4 O 56.1mg 83.72mg

Enanthate*
C7 H12 O 112.2mg 71.99mg

Cypionate
C8 H4 O 124.2mg 69.90mg

Decanoate
C10 H18 O 154.3mg 65.15mg

Undecanoate info not availible
*Data Extrapolated from another formula (may not be exact)

 

[blut wump]

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