First time cycle

[DILF]

Hi guys,

Just wanted your 5 cents on this cycle being the first one.

TEST
Week 1-2: Test Propionate 3 x 300 mgs
Week 3-12: Test Cypionate 400 mgs a week

TEST + Anadrol
Week 1: 50 ed
Week 2: 75 ed
Week 3: 100 ed
Week 4: 75 ed
Week 5: 50 ed
Week 6: stop

I've done quite a bit of research and concluded that the Anadrol will kick-start everything and it would be effective to start with the Prop for the first 2-4 weeks. I havent figured out what to do at the end of the cycle tho, so any advice is much appriciated.

Keep in mind that I am a NEWBIE...and this is my very first cycle. I live in Norway and I have restricted access to a wide range of alternatives. It's also rather expensive here (50's of Anadrol is approx $5 a piece and the Test is $230 for 1000 mg)

I am also wondering if it would be smart to save the creatine I've got for post-cycle? I'm worried about the water retention being too much with both the cycle's Anadrols and creatine combined. I understand that it might super-bloat the muscles, but I dont want it to be bloated with too much water.


I am at 20% BF, 165 lbs, trained seriously only 6 months, 35 years old. Want to reach 180 lbs with max 12% BF. I have 0% of training buddies on the gear, so everything is and has to be researched on forums like this.

Thanks.

 

[joeblow12345]

Too much anadrol. 4-6 weeks max. If your gonna use the long ester then it needs to be from day one. No need for prop with the anadrol. Run it like this.

1-12 test cyp 400 mg week
1-6 anadrol 50 mg day(plenty1st time)
1-6 n2guard
1-12 adex 0.25 mg e3d or eod
6-10 hcgenerate
10-14 hcg 500 ius eod

Pct 14-18
Clomid 25 mg day
Post cycle/ unleashed
Daa and dspark

18-22 bridge and dspark

 

[semper03]

Too much anadrol. 4-6 weeks max. If your gonna use the long ester then it needs to be from day one. No need for prop with the anadrol. Run it like this.

1-12 test cyp 400 mg week
1-6 anadrol 50 mg day(plenty1st time)
1-6 n2guard
1-12 adex 0.25 mg e3d or eod
6-10 hcgenerate
10-14 hcg 500 ius eod

Pct 14-18
Clomid 25 mg day
Post cycle/ unleashed
Daa and dspark

18-22 bridge and dspark

Yea that's way too much drol for a first cycle. Add formastanzol or formeron to the pct for a nice test boost.

I disagree with the Adex. There's a big chance for rebound. I would go with a suicide inhibitor like aromasin at 12.5mg. Like letro it's gonna kill that shit right out.

 

[DILF]

So sorry...I posted in a hurry. It's been edited now.

 

[semper03]

Damn bro, your BF is way too high. You need to get it down to about 13% before running a cycle.

As for the bloat, try creative ethyl-ester. I've never used it but have heard great things about it not causing bloat.

 

[DILF]

Damn bro, your BF is way too high. You need to get it down to about 13% before running a cycle.

As for the bloat, try creative ethyl-ester. I've never used it but have heard great things about it not causing bloat.

Thanks man, I know my BF is way too high...but I'm in the starting blocks when it comes to training and dieting now. I want this cycle to kick-start my new-found desire

 

[Crazy Barbarian]

Guys hes been training for 6 months, and high bf is he even ready to cycle remotely? 4 years minimum

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[DILF]

Guys hes been training for 6 months, and high bf is he even ready to cycle remotely? 4 years minimum

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Hi, I def understand you pov, but say I do go ahead with this cycle (cause I am going to), what can I expect, what to look out for etc...?

 

[buddhabuilder]

Hi, I def understand you pov, but say I do go ahead with this cycle (cause I am going to), what can I expect, what to look out for etc...?

Going in with lack of experience and a high bf% you can expect to be disappointed. Put the stuff on a shelf and get your training and diet in order before any cycle. By doing this you can bring out your natural potential and learn important lessons about diet and training. If you don't do this your outcomes will be less than good, leading to disappointment and even discouragement.

 

[bonacris]

How tall are you?

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[NegroPops]

there is no reason to kickstart your cycle with test prop if you are using an oral.

 

[Xandoz]

Thats way too expensive! Make sure you have a PCT planned properly.

 

[DILF]

How tall are you?

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My height is just short of 5' 11"

I certainly understand that ideally one should have years of training background and a proper diet. However, I am highly motivated and I am prepared to follow the correct guidelines to reach my goals.

 

[LiftLearnLove]

My height is just short of 5' 11"

I certainly understand that ideally one should have years of training background and a proper diet. However, I am highly motivated and I am prepared to follow the correct guidelines to reach my goals.

stop been an idiot and listen your not ready for steroids your too fucking fat these people are trying to help you save money and time...

Fat people contemplating doing steroids it bugs the shit out of me...

If you cant even lose abit of weight how can you even think about doin them.

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[DILF]

there is no reason to kickstart your cycle with test prop if you are using an oral.

Ok, my research indicates that Prop and Anadrol would be a good way to get things going before I move on to a couple of more weeks with Drol where I switch to the long Testo

 

[DILF]

stop been an idiot and listen your not ready for steroids your too fucking fat these people are trying to help you save money and time...

Fat people contemplating doing steroids it bugs the shit out of me...

If you cant even lose abit of weight how can you even think about doin them.

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Ha ha! Thanks for your "advice". However...you seem to have no/little clue about BF.

If I did a poll, my bet is that 0% would consider me fat..not even chubby

Ps. If you would bother to read my post you would see that I am not trying to lose weight, rather gain 15 pounds and 6-8% BF.

 

[lithium1189]

5'11 165 and 20% bf????

You really need to reconsider this bro... Your a trainwreck waiting to happen, if your payin that much for gear, your also wasting money.

I've got a bunch of gear in my safe I've had for a while now, not touching it till I drop another 2ish % bf. and I'm sitting at 13...

 

[DILF]

stop been an idiot and listen your not ready for steroids your too fucking fat these people are trying to help you save money and time...

Fat people contemplating doing steroids it bugs the shit out of me...

If you cant even lose abit of weight how can you even think about doin them.

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Ha ha! Thanks for your "advice". However...you seem to have no/little clue about BF.

If I did a poll, my bet is that 0% would consider me fat..not even chubby

Ps. If you would bother to read my post you would see that I am not trying to lose weight, rather gain 15 pounds together with losing 6-8% BF.

 

[bonacris]

You clearly have no idea what a diet is if your 20% bf and 165.. that's what I would call skinny fat.. this cycle is gonna be a waste..

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[DILF]

Thats way too expensive! Make sure you have a PCT planned properly.

What PCT would you recomend me?

 

[DILF]

5'11 165 and 20% bf????

You really need to reconsider this bro... Your a trainwreck waiting to happen, if your payin that much for gear, your also wasting money.

I've got a bunch of gear in my safe I've had for a while now, not touching it till I drop another 2ish % bf. and I'm sitting at 13...

I hear you, I hear you.

Idk..perhaps we measure BF in a different way here in Norway.

Myself at around 20% and my friend at approx the same (both approx 5` 11")... NO ONE would consider us even chubby...I am dead serious...NO ONE.

We've even joked that the $75 we spent on measuring it was a waste of money :-D

Idk..this indicates to me that perhaps we measure it in a different way.

 

[RADAR]

Brother, what you fail to read what everyone is telling you is not only are you not ready for Steroids is the fact that you have been only training for 6 months, your body is not conditioned enough to handle them, Sure, you'll get strong fast and your ego is only going to encourage it ,But! your joints and tendons will not be able to keep up, eventually something will have to give, when it does you done went and set yourself up for an injury. You can't build muscle on a foundation of toothpicks, I trained naturally for 10 yrs before touching anything. I'm telling you this from experience and for your own good.

 

[DILF]

Hi RADAR and thank you for your input.

I def understand and hear what they/you are saying about it being too soon to get on gear.

However, I am going to try it and was wondering how my first cycle looked. Obv I am going to pay close attention to how my body is reacting (and consult with a doctor every week), but my mind it set on trying it.

Thanks again.

 

[RADAR]

Hi RADAR and thank you for your input.

I def understand and hear what they/you are saying about it being too soon to get on gear.

However, I am going to try it and was wondering how my first cycle looked. Obv I am going to pay close attention to how my body is reacting (and consult with a doctor every week), but my mind it set on trying it.

Thanks again.

Well if you're so set on doing this then i would reccommend you keep it simple, run Test only for 10-12 weeks, forget the Androl for now,save it for a later cycle, you'll make great gains on that alone ,nothing like having virgin receptors as they will respond like crazy, see how your body handles Test before adding multiple compounds. Have all of your PCT & ai lined up and on hand before starting .
And for petes sake don't get gung ho and go heavy, proper form slow and easy ,you want to tear the muscle fibers up so they will rebuild and come back larger, sure you won't be able to handle as much weight but! This is how it works and your joints and tendons will thank you later on.
Good luck.

 

[DILF]

Well if you're so set on doing this then i would reccommend you keep it simple, run Test only for 10-12 weeks, forget the Androl for now,save it for a later cycle, you'll make great gains on that alone ,nothing like having virgin receptors as they will respond like crazy, see how your body handles Test before adding multiple compounds. Have all of your PCT & ai lined up and on hand before starting .
And for petes sake don't get gung ho and go heavy, proper form slow and easy ,you want to tear the muscle fibers up so they will rebuild and come back larger, sure you won't be able to handle as much weight but! This is how it works and your joints and tendons will thank you later on.
Good luck.

Thanks again RADAR.

I will def listen to that advice and save the Drols for later. I will also make damn good sure that I keep proper form and dont let how many pounds get thrown in the air matter. Thanks again!

Any advice for a good PCT & ai for someone in my shoes?

Again, I dont really have good access to a huge variety of gear to buy.

 

[LiftLearnLove]

Ha ha! Thanks for your "advice". However...you seem to have no/little clue about BF.

If I did a poll, my bet is that 0% would consider me fat..not even chubby

Ps. If you would bother to read my post you would see that I am not trying to lose weight, rather gain 15 pounds together with losing 6-8% BF.

You are 20% bf I dont care if you think you look good at the end of the day you are 20% and people with that bf and at 165 should not be doing steroids. .

You give steroids a bad name sir...

Your lucky the other lads are giving you advice because I wouldn't waste my time with a lazy cheater like u..

You sound like an 18 year old it scares me to think your in your 30s

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[NickA]

the Test is $230 for 1000 mg

Are you saying it will cost you $115 per week to run test at 500mg/week??
Damn, glad to live in the US!

 

[RADAR]

You are 20% bf I dont care if you think you look good at the end of the day you are 20% and people with that bf and at 165 should not be doing steroids. .

You give steroids a bad name sir...

Your lucky the other lads are giving you advice because I wouldn't waste my time with a lazy cheater like u..

You sound like an 18 year old it scares me to think your in your 30s

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Please be more respectful, altho i agree with what you're saying ,it's not like i can drive over there and take his stash away ,so I'm offering help and guidance to keep him from hurting himself, hopefully he will learn from this and do things differently next time.

 

[frankna]

omg that is way too expensive..... better be rich bro... Looks like a guy at the gym will make good money on you... It should not be more than 2$ per adrol or dbol tab,, idk about the test P or C but test 400 is like 175 $ for 4000mg..... dont give that guy your money hahahahahaha.


Guys here told me the same thing... drop the cycle drop the cycle... been lifting for 2 years and a lot in my teen ages, and about same bodyfat... though im 5.8 206 lbs... think about it because personnally i think im making a mistake.... will know it after the cycle.... but i understand you.... i wont give any advise, those guys here only want us to make the right choices. Im pretty sure a lot of them have made mistakes and thats why they dont want us to make the same....

Good luck

 

[Jbranken]

What's the update on the cycle OP? I'm assuming you've started it by now

 

[notjake11]

omg that is way too expensive..... better be rich bro... Looks like a guy at the gym will make good money on you... It should not be more than 2$ per adrol or dbol tab,, idk about the test P or C but test 400 is like 175 $ for 4000mg..... dont give that guy your money hahahahahaha.


Guys here told me the same thing... drop the cycle drop the cycle... been lifting for 2 years and a lot in my teen ages, and about same bodyfat... though im 5.8 206 lbs... think about it because personnally i think im making a mistake.... will know it after the cycle.... but i understand you.... i wont give any advise, those guys here only want us to make the right choices. Im pretty sure a lot of them have made mistakes and thats why they dont want us to make the same....

Good luck

This post was a refreshing surprise - candid and open admission of making a mistake not following good advice given on site. I'm impressed.