First time and I am an old fart

[Jacob2323]

First of all I really enjoy this site and all of the insight you all bring to the table.

Now to the important part. I am a big guy, former small college football and basketball player 6'6" 260lbs around 20%BF down from 275lbs 2 months ago. Never a real workout warrior but greatly improved with more dedication the last 2-3 years. Graduated High school at 245lbs so weight has been steady for a long time.

Just turned 50, had a full physical with bloodwork and the doc told me I have the heart and internal systems of a 35-40 year old. Kicked the cardiac stress tests ass, resting heart rate of 52..........Test in normal range but below the mid point of normal

Have a couple of good friends who are on gear, one of them a long time and he looks great... alot shorther than I and typically always "on" cycle. I want a muscular, lean look, never going to be a body builder and do not want that kind of mass, but have always wanted that hard lean look.

Cleaned up my diet and by Bfat is coming down thanks to Cardio, T-rex, Cardio breeze, Glucuroll, Sesapure. This stuff rocks!

Suggestions? My friend who also is a source can get pretty much get anything I want.

 

[al420]

At your age just take your recent blood work to a HRT clinic and get a legal script for some Test and some GH.

 

[SwolK]

At your age just take your recent blood work to a HRT clinic and get a legal script for some Test and some GH.

his test was still in the normal range. does'nt it have to be below normal to get a script?

 

[wags8]

Jxcob- I am too new at this to tell you what to do, BUT I can tell you what I have done. Two years ago when I was only 49, I stumbled into some Test E .(maybe, I'm not sure.) A player on my softball team sold it to me , ripped me off, I now know, but let me tell you, it changed my life. Within a month I was hitting the ball with a ferocity I had never known before! It was a chain reaction, first, the slight jittery feeling of a new strength, then the aggression, which resulted in a confidence that you only know as being in the zone. Since then have worked myself into the best shape of my life, been going out with a 28 year old cutie that I would have never even approached when I was old and am having the time of my life. Now, there have been some setbacks. Tore a rotator cuff, hitting the farthest homerun of my life and after two attempts at a properly done PCT, which was only sucessful at turning me back into a50 year old again, I've decided to stay on. Low dose test in between the cycles, { I love tren) Dude, this is truly the fountain of youth. It is made for US! Only wasted on the young. jk Be careful and enjoy!

 

[boz44]

his test was still in the normal range. does'nt it have to be below normal to get a script?

No. If he has proper blood work and a physical done they will write him a script. It is a lot more expensive, but well worth it in my opinion. PM if you need a referral to a legal online hrt clinic. I am really impressed with mine so far.

 

[Jacob2323]

Thanks all for the insight and suggestions.

I too used to play very high level Softball. Played in 5 USSSA world series and know the pureness of hitting the ball out of baseball parks. Has technology effected that sport?

Do not play anymore, the travel and the getting back late Monday interfered with the building of my company.... I miss it, but like running my own company more

Anyway, my friend and sometimes training partner who is always on has been trying to get me to start on some Test with EQ... I am estro sensitive and had Gyno surgery as a young man (without any AAS) very little Gyno tissue but definitely a gathering place for fat. No syptoms since the surgery, but do not want to try anything that will exaserbate an old demon.

Will follow up on the HRT clinic information.

I definitely look and act younger than 50 (sometimes act much younger) LOL. Dating in Dallas is a fun thing

 

[boz44]

The combonation of steriods, thin walled bats, etc...not safe to be a pitcher in big time slow pitch softball anymore. Have fun doing the research and best of luck to ya!

 

[BigCracker]

his test was still in the normal range. does'nt it have to be below normal to get a script?

It depends on how bad the Dr wants his $$$ more than anything. Nobody goes to school 10 yrs to turn away $$$ from a guy that will just find another Dr to hook him up if he doesn't. I know a guy thats 26 yrs old and just got Rx's for cyp, v and deca. Find the right Dr and you're set.

 

[al420]

It depends on how bad the Dr wants his $$$ more than anything. Nobody goes to school 10 yrs to turn away $$$ from a guy that will just find another Dr to hook him up if he doesn't. I know a guy thats 26 yrs old and just got Rx's for cyp, v and deca. Find the right Dr and you're set.

You beat me to it. If you aren't at the high end of "normal" then you can easily get a script from an HRT clinic - and on GH if your over 27 then you will almost qualify almost 100% of the time IMO.

 

[maxpain]

My friend who also is a source can get pretty much get anything I want.

Does your "friend" not know HOW to help you ?

 

[muscles29]

Hey Bro,
I would like a know of a good clinic. I was thinking of using south beach or oasis but if you got something better I'd like to know. Thanks Bro.

By the way I'm 30 and my test is like 427. Hope I can get a script.

No. If he has proper blood work and a physical done they will write him a script. It is a lot more expensive, but well worth it in my opinion. PM if you need a referral to a legal online hrt clinic. I am really impressed with mine so far.

 

[perp69]

If your labs are out of range for your age, which I would bet they are, checkout Drstaywell.com. They have been great. Need to go into the office the first time and make sure you got all your labs done that you will need. After that you can reorder online.

Good luck.
Perp

 

[blut wump]

At your age just take your recent blood work to a HRT clinic and get a legal script for some Test and some GH.

Grrr.

j/k

Really guys, 50 isn't old if you work out. Wear and tear starts to be harder to recover from but life-expectency goes well beyond the mid-fifties since we discovered medicine.

 

[dognutz]

Composite bats like are making everyone decent hitters and endangering the pitchers. The Ultra 1,2 are pretty much banned everywhere, most leagues are going to some really crappy balls that turn to mush after the 1st inning to protect the pitchers. I still love to play though. Competition drives me. Going to Palm Springs to play a 4 game guarantee Western tourney this weekend at a Big League Dreams. Oh yeah, stay on the Test its awesome at your/our age.

 

[Jacob2323]

Thanks all for your perspective.

Yes, my friend certainly can help me and he has attempted to do so on may occassions with suggestions and the pluses and minuses of different approaches.

I simply wanted some more points of view before moving forward to prevent some bad information or god forbid he did not know what he was doing. I have spent almost 6 months on the board reading and researching and this was my first post.

So thanks again for the support

 

[scout69]

If all your blood work is as good as you say noreputable doctor will give u shit, though you can always find croked ones....But I do not see a problem with you starting up you took all the precautions and all testscame back good.. Go For It!

 

[CO B-man]

his test was still in the normal range. does'nt it have to be below normal to get a script?

Yes and NO if he suffers from certain symptoms regardless they tend to "Overlook" certain things.


Not such an Old fart: Try one of the board sponsors if you worry about the legality. You will pay a little more than you can find it for but it will be "legal" I would say you probably do not need much of anything to accomplish your goals. But if you are going to go that route go large at least your first cycle then chill out and maybe switch to a smaller dose cycle of test Cyp or Test E if you plan on being on all the time. Make sure you get all necessary accesories just in case. AIFM from AF store. HCG, Either clomid or Nolva and arimidex/anastrozole. A little crack pipe and you should be good to go. Just kidding on the crack pipe in case you were wondering!

 

[Jacob2323]

Have done much research and some preparation:

AIFM - already purchased
Nolva/CLomid - can get whenever I choose from Friend
HCG - Same as above

He has 5 different tests including the two you mention.

Want to get leaner before I go "on". I am an easy gainer and can add weight (both good or bad) depending on my diet. I do want to get bigger, but not huge, I have a large frame to go with my height and easily carry up to 280 lbs(college playing weight). Unfortunately my genetics "cursed" me with a lack of a big V and the tendency to put on ass and stomach fat...So I will never look like Ronnie Coleman even if I wanted to

Focusing a great deal of training on shoulders and back. DOing all incline stuff on chest...... Legs are big and muscular and "blow up" fast with heavy training....trying to widen my Delts and back for a better V.

 

[CO B-man]

Have done much research and some preparation:

AIFM - already purchased
Nolva/CLomid - can get whenever I choose from Friend
HCG - Same as above

He has 5 different tests including the two you mention.

Want to get leaner before I go "on". I am an easy gainer and can add weight (both good or bad) depending on my diet. I do want to get bigger, but not huge, I have a large frame to go with my height and easily carry up to 280 lbs(college playing weight). Unfortunately my genetics "cursed" me with a lack of a big V and the tendency to put on ass and stomach fat...So I will never look like Ronnie Coleman even if I wanted to

Focusing a great deal of training on shoulders and back. DOing all incline stuff on chest...... Legs are big and muscular and "blow up" fast with heavy training....trying to widen my Delts and back for a better V.

You should do just fine then with a low dose cycle since you are a fast gainer as long as you keep your diet in check. Unless you also want to bulk at the same time then go with more. AAS works wonders for your traps. Lots of receptors in you traps.

 

[SwolK]

thanks to all for clearifying that up for me

 

[digimon7068]

I'll be 42 in a few days. . .I don't use anything but test anymore. . .everything else is too harsh on my system(s) in general. . .test makes me feel great. . .

 

[Tallguy1]

The combonation of steriods, thin walled bats, etc...not safe to be a pitcher in big time slow pitch softball anymore. Have fun doing the research and best of luck to ya!

The combination of steroids, new technology and the prevalance of SHAVED AND PAINTED bats at that level have basically ruined the sport. IMHO.