First REAL cycle check...

[livestronger]

Alright. A little background on me. Im 27, 6'1", 201 lbs., 18% BF. I've been lifting for 4yrs. now using mainly creatine, NO2, glutamine, and whey protien.

I used to lift without any supplements and stayed around 180 lbs. Then a buddy turned me on to the above mentioned supplements and I couldn't believe the amount of muscle energy that I maintained through out a workout. I jumped up to 195 on these. But I felt "puffy" all the time and I couldn't get much definition. This is 3 years ago.

After I kind of "plateaued" with the creatine, NO2, and glutamine, I decided to try a cycle of Winnstrol. I know what you are thinking, (Winny ALONE?). Yes, just Winny. I know its mostly used for cutting big beast body builders AFTER a Test. cycle, but I was reluctant to inject anabolics at first so I thought this was a good way to start.

So I did 1cc every other day for about two months, and before you start laughing, my weight went up to 205 with VERY LITTLE BF. My lifts went up across the board more than ever before and my muscle energy was off the charts. I was like Eureka!!! I've found what I've been looking for!

So that brings us to today. I'm ready for cycle #2 (REAL CYCLE#1) and have done some research but was wondering if you guys had any additions or modifications to make. Also I wanted to know whether I should use any of my old standards in conjunction with This New Cycle (creatine, glutamine, NO2 ??)

I got incredible gains from a cycle of Winny, so I think Sust will do me fine. Also Im not looking to get huge, just really strong and cut.

Sustanon (8-10 weeks) Clenbuterol (Is Albuterol good? better/worse?) Clomid (4 weeks)
Mad chicken, broccoli, and whey Can't wait for the replys guys.
God Bless yous!!

~LiveStronger

 

[Mac173]

You didn't even list a dosage.
Why the albuterol?

 

[xrsist]

sustanon 250mg a week for 10 weeks BEING YOUR FIRST CYCLE pct clomid for 20-30 days start 2 weeks after last shot of sustanon. drop the clen/albut. no problems to keep taking your supplements.

 

[needtogetaas]

sustanon 250mg a week for 10 weeks BEING YOUR FIRST CYCLE pct clomid for 20-30 days start 2 weeks after last shot of sustanon. drop the clen/albut. no problems to keep taking your supplements.

I never like to see people using malty ester compounds like sust,adropin275,or om unless there using them at the min or 500mg a week and even then its a wast imo.malty ester compounds should be used oed to make better use of the short esters...


that being said go with test-e at 250mg ew keep taking the sups and use dermacrin sustain for pct.keep nolva on hand for any sides from estro.

 

[xrsist]

I never like to see people using malty ester compounds like sust,adropin275,or om unless there using them at the min or 500mg a week and even then its a wast imo.malty ester compounds should be used oed to make better use of the short esters...


that being said go with test-e at 250mg ew keep taking the sups and use dermacrin sustain for pct.keep nolva on hand for any sides from estro.

very true, but that was my first and i loved it had no sides either

 

[needtogetaas]

very true, but that was my first and i loved it had no sides either

o it will work no doubt about that.but it has some down sides.
1.plan old test is cheaper most of the time
2.the short esters only being used on 1 day will cause levels to be unstable
3.your waisting the short ester pretty much
4.most sust hurts more then plain old test.

 

[xrsist]

o it will work no doubt about that.but it has some down sides.
1.plan old test is cheaper most of the time
2.the short esters only being used on 1 day will cause levels to be unstable
3.your waisting the short ester pretty much
4.most sust hurts more then plain old test.

also true

 

[needtogetaas]

also true

sust 250 ew is not a bad idea though.

 

[livestronger]

I never like to see people using malty ester compounds like sust,adropin275,or om unless there using them at the min or 500mg a week and even then its a wast imo.malty ester compounds should be used oed to make better use of the short esters...


that being said go with test-e at 250mg ew keep taking the sups and use dermacrin sustain for pct.keep nolva on hand for any sides from estro.

Isn't Sust in a long lasting ether? I thought it would be good once a week. Whats all this oed business? Im gonna research dermacrin and nolva... thanks for the response!

 

[Mac173]

Isn't Sust in a long lasting ether? I thought it would be good once a week. Whats all this oed business? Im gonna research dermacrin and nolva... thanks for the response!

Actually it's best eod since it contains the prop ester.

 

[needtogetaas]

Actually it's best eod since it contains the prop ester.

 

[digit0x]

very true, but that was my first and i loved it had no sides either

Me too bro sus for me was side free and made good gains. Only thing I would have done differently is injecting e4days.

 

[Varga]

Just use test prop 100mg EOD
eat right, 4 days cardio for 8 weeks and call it a day. Excellent results

For better results
100mg prop EOD / primo 500 a week for 8 weeks- Tits on the rits LOL