First Cycle

[Matt_USMC]

23, 6'0, 190 lbs, around 10% bodyfat and i've been lifting for about 8 years. My goal for this cycle is to put on as much muscle mass as possible. I've always been naturally very lean, and my calorie intake is around 5k, fairly clean. I'm on a 4 day lifting schedule right now.
This will be my first cycle. I have 2 bottles of Test 250, and a bottle of deca.


What length of a cycle would be best?
How much test and deca should I do per week?
What is the best on-cycle anti estrogen I should be on and when should I start?
What is the best pct to run on this cycle?

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

 

[dylangemelli]

you should not even consider running deca as a first cycle... that is an absolutely horrible idea...

 

[Matt_USMC]

So just run test or would you recommend anything else?

 

[dylangemelli]

you could run an oral kickstart... tbol or dbol are both good kickstarts depending upon your goal... tbol being toward the lean muscle gain while dbol will be more towards mass... i always recommend running anavar or winstrol on the back end of the cycle to shred up the gains...

 

[Soadman]

So just run test or would you recommend anything else?

I did prop and loved it only did 6 weeks aswell and made some decent gains but people will say do e or c for less injections but it never bothered me painless prop I had tho!

 

[Matt_USMC]

Only 10 weeks? i'll go with just test for this cycle. What kind of pct would you recommend?

 

[dylangemelli]

1-12 test e 500 mg week
1-12 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
7-14 hcg 500 iu's week or hcgenerate

pct
15-18 clomid 25/25/25/25
15-18 unleashed/post cycle combo
15-18 forma stanzol
15-18 daa powerchews or powder

 

[Matt_USMC]

good shit man thanks

 

[dylangemelli]

good shit man thanks

no problem bro...

 

[Nelson Montana]

you should not even consider running deca as a first cycle... that is an absolutely horrible idea...

agreed

 

[RickRock13]

Test only with possibly an oral kickstart is all you need for your first cycle. You will get plenty of great gains from that alone.

 

[Soadman]

Test is all you need to make great gains especially on a first cycle !!!

 

[Matt_USMC]

This is what my first cycle is looking like as of right now, tell me what you think and/or would change.

1-12 test250 500 mg/ week
7-14 hcgenerate

PCT
15-18 arimidex
15-18 unleashed/post cycle combo

 

[dylangemelli]

This is what my first cycle is looking like as of right now, tell me what you think and/or would change.

1-12 test250 500 mg/ week
7-14 hcgenerate

PCT
15-18 arimidex
15-18 unleashed/post cycle combo

1-12 test e 500 mg week
1-12 arimidex .5 mg eod
7-14 hcgenerate

pct
15-18 clomid 25/25/25/25
15-18 unleashed/post cycle combo
15-18 forma stanzol
15-18 daa powerchews or powder

 

[Matt_USMC]

Beginning my cycle this coming monday. Only have enough test for a 10 week. How does this look?
Is forma stanzol an absolute necessity for pct?



1-10 test e 500 mg/ week
1-10 arimidex .5 mg eod
5-12 Hcgenerate

PCT
13-16 clomid 25/25/25/25
13-16 unleashed/post cycle combo
13-16 daa powder

 

[RADAR]

Beginning my cycle this coming monday. Only have enough test for a 10 week. How does this look?
Is forma stanzol an absolute necessity for pct?



1-10 test e 500 mg/ week
1-10 arimidex .5 mg eod
5-12 Hcgenerate

PCT
13-16 clomid 25/25/25/25
13-16 unleashed/post cycle combo
13-16 daa powder

No, not necessary, but Forma has anabolic properties which will enhance gains, and also acts as an Ai. That in itself is a win-win situation.

 

[Texas Monster]

Definately stick with the forma because it will help increase IGF_1 in PCT which is what you want in order to keep your gains.

Also through weeks 17-20 I would through in some phytoserms 347 or some NTBM bridge.

Remember not to fuck with deca quite yet. That opens the flood gates for a whole other mess of problems that if not treated correctly will make recovery very difficult if not impossible.