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First Cycle
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I would suggest a longer estered test first go round. Just easier to manage but if you don't mind the regular pokes then nothing wrong at all with Prop. I have given up doing winny injects and just take it orally now. Shit hurts me too damn much. Tried splitting it for a couple of cycles with 3 injects and 4 orally to ease the pain but last cycle (in PCT now) I just said stuff it and went with oral only. Something to keep in mind.
Burpees
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the likeliness he will have such harsh sides to test (any ester) that he would need to stop is very unlikely unless he already has a serious problem with his liver profile or blood pressure, or an extreme issue with aromatization and no medication for it. some people get sides from the esters, me I bloat more on Cyp than Enan. Prop is great, and I am on my first cycle and LOVE EOD shots, did ED for 7 days...wasn't bad per se but I didn't look forward to it like I do EOD. In fact it was more like "ehh.. i'll eat now and then do the shot...or maybe after this movie..".
Prop > Cyp or Enan... mg or mg there is more Test in Prop than in Cyp or Enan. some people experience pain during injection, others a bit of intense soreness.. Cyp hurts me more than Prop or Enan. People complain of less bloat on Prop over the other two esters, and most important to me..people report excellent gains on much less prop than higher doses of Cyp/Enan..
Just shit i've gathered from the bro's experiences and my own.. I run Enan, I don't do Prop because theres less injections per vial (read between the lines).
Prop > Cyp or Enan... mg or mg there is more Test in Prop than in Cyp or Enan. some people experience pain during injection, others a bit of intense soreness.. Cyp hurts me more than Prop or Enan. People complain of less bloat on Prop over the other two esters, and most important to me..people report excellent gains on much less prop than higher doses of Cyp/Enan..
Just shit i've gathered from the bro's experiences and my own.. I run Enan, I don't do Prop because theres less injections per vial (read between the lines).
the elite addict
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HAYEZ said:
he said
"Re: First Cycle"
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5'10" 188lbs 14-15% Bf
Most important how old is he.
lmfao
ryno9000 said:
I agree Prop is a very good first cycle. You dont have to worry about the long ester if you get side and need to stop suddenly as Prop will be out of you system faster. You get strenght gains faster and you start to see results faster. I liked prop for my first cycle wait i take that back i fucking loved prop
mainly cuz i didnt mind jabbing EOD i actually liked it 
i hear ya on the jabs...i feel motivated for some reason the day i inject..if i wasnt limited on what i had to work with id do every day injects but losing a tenth of a ml every shot adds up after 10 weeks...end up losing 3/4 10ml vial by end of itironcheif1984 said:I agree Prop is a very good first cycle. You dont have to worry about the long ester if you get side and need to stop suddenly as Prop will be out of you system faster. You get strenght gains faster and you start to see results faster. I liked prop for my first cycle wait i take that back i fucking loved prop
HAYEZ said:
I draw a little bit of air into the syringe before i draw up the test and this makes sure all the test is out of the syringe and into your body. Ive never had a problem shooting a little air bubble in fact ive seen many other people on here that actually do this to as well as docs before they administer a shot. I do know what your talking about though. On a ten week cycle of Sus if your shooting twice EW you do lose some i only ended up with 8 weeks worth oh well i know next time i will have more then one vile lol.
sweed said:
I agree but there were only a couple people that were giving advice the rest of us were just haveing a convo with each other in his thread. sorry.
Burpees said:
You have to make sure that the air bubble is on top of the gear when the needle is pointed at the ground. I know that is obvious and you prolly know that but i take it your prolly talking about when you take glute shots and stuff like that. It has always worked for when when i am taking a quad or delt shot i just sit on the toilet when doing quads and lean to the side a little bit when doing delts. oh well we all lose some anyways that just means we have to have more to have a complete cycle but whatever you can never have enough test anyways right.
Hey everyone sorry for the late reply for some reason i was not getting the alerts in my email on the replys.
I have been training for about a year and really hit my diet hard the end of March. I pretty much eat the same foods everyday since I don't like looking up foods all the time, so I pretty consistent with my diet. I switch my diet every other day and eat 2,100 cals and 2,500 cals. I get alittle over 200g of protein 225-250carbs and 35g from good fats. My doctor helped me set up my diet.
But I have another question, i got my levels tested before I started doin anything (free test was 1.89) and I told my doc what's up. He put me on Testim (it's 1% test), told me to take 100mg everyday and has me on a 12 week cycle. he said it would save me money and he could test my levels every 6 weeks to make sure I keep my free level between 6.0-8.0. He said by staying in this range I should not see any sides. Does anyone know anything about this stuff? He said test is test. Several years back he competed in bodybuilding, but, alot has changed since then.
Thanks again.
I have been training for about a year and really hit my diet hard the end of March. I pretty much eat the same foods everyday since I don't like looking up foods all the time, so I pretty consistent with my diet. I switch my diet every other day and eat 2,100 cals and 2,500 cals. I get alittle over 200g of protein 225-250carbs and 35g from good fats. My doctor helped me set up my diet.
But I have another question, i got my levels tested before I started doin anything (free test was 1.89) and I told my doc what's up. He put me on Testim (it's 1% test), told me to take 100mg everyday and has me on a 12 week cycle. he said it would save me money and he could test my levels every 6 weeks to make sure I keep my free level between 6.0-8.0. He said by staying in this range I should not see any sides. Does anyone know anything about this stuff? He said test is test. Several years back he competed in bodybuilding, but, alot has changed since then.
Thanks again.
JerseyJoe said:
How old are you though.
bsdgeek
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prop would be fine for a first cycle. like ironchief said, you see strength gains and results quicker, so why wouldn't you do prop? most of us on here kickstart cycles with it, and mg for mg it kicks the shit out of cyp or enan. i had a low back muscle bothering me once, took about a half a mil as a maintenance dose to help it heal, that was on a friday night, man- the strength off that half mil the following week was impressive. not worth shouting about, but very fucking noticeable, all around. i definitely don't get the same satisfaction from cyp that i do from prop. also, at the lower doses he'd see less sides, need less of an ai, or serm, and he'd be happier with the quicker results. as a matter of fact, here is my next cycle:
week 1 - 6 prop 200 mg - 2EW
week 1 -6 proviron 25 mg ED
PCT nolvadex only 25 mg ED for about a month
see, a very simple pre-bulk cycle, but very effective.
secondly, when are you starting your cycle? if i may, might i give a suggestion to do a pre-bulk cycle? this is a beach body goal, if you have a contest or show, then just disregard. you'd start the pre-bulker in mid to late august. do a short 6 - 8 weeker and come off, let the blood levels normalize. you'll continue to get gains after pct is done and your levels normalize, training with the idea of conditioning the bones tendons, ligaments etc to get ready for bulk. then in late dec, early jan start bulk, and do a longer cycle, to be finished with it and the pct by late march early april.
jus my two bro, if you'd like training ideas or suggestions for this line up, just pm me.
week 1 - 6 prop 200 mg - 2EW
week 1 -6 proviron 25 mg ED
PCT nolvadex only 25 mg ED for about a month
see, a very simple pre-bulk cycle, but very effective.
secondly, when are you starting your cycle? if i may, might i give a suggestion to do a pre-bulk cycle? this is a beach body goal, if you have a contest or show, then just disregard. you'd start the pre-bulker in mid to late august. do a short 6 - 8 weeker and come off, let the blood levels normalize. you'll continue to get gains after pct is done and your levels normalize, training with the idea of conditioning the bones tendons, ligaments etc to get ready for bulk. then in late dec, early jan start bulk, and do a longer cycle, to be finished with it and the pct by late march early april.
jus my two bro, if you'd like training ideas or suggestions for this line up, just pm me.
