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First cycle

enigm@tic said:
testosterone propionate, 300mg a week for 8 weeks. First cycle, only want it to be light.

Thoughts?


Sounds good.. You will have to poke urself pretty much daily with test p. Since it is your first run maybe try enanthate or cyp that way less pokes for ya.. I would run at least 10 weeks maybe even 12. Make sure you have your pct lined up and some arimidex in case you get some gyno or alot of bloat.. Run the adex only when needed at maybe .5 mg a day.
 
I am putting together my first cycle as well, and decided on test (enth or cyp) 500 mg a week. I have heard times being 6 weeks all the way up to 12 weeks. Twelve being the standard (from what I read here) but since it is a first cycle, maybe a few weeks less?
 
why do people insist that 12 weeks is the "standard"??? whatever happened to 8-10 week cycles, especially for newbies??
 
i would do 250mgs of test enanthate instead, i don't think prop is a good first cycle. do that with 300-400mgs of eq for 10-12 weeks, good to go.
 
enigm@tic said:
testosterone propionate, 300mg a week for 8 weeks. First cycle, only want it to be light.

Thoughts?
great first cycle bro if you dont mind the ed eod injects its a great first cycle.short and very effective.do you know what your going to do for pct???do you have what you need on hand for ai's???again great first cycle bro.
 
Personally for my first time im doing 10 weeks of enanthate so that i dont have to remember to poke myself all the time. i want the first time to be just real simple so doing one poke a week and monitoring myself and eating habits is the way to go for me.
 
I was thinking more EOD shots. I'm sticking with testosterone propionate mainly because its least expensive.

For PCT - post cycle therapy - I had Finasteride and Arimidex in mind. I havent got anything yet but im not sure yet if I can get my hands on Finasteride as yet.

My main concerns are baldness and acne.. more so going bald. What do you think is a good alternative if I cant get Finasteride to combat hair loss? the acne should be quite easy to manage.

I'm dieting at the moment, will prob start my cycle when im at around 10% bf.. im 13% now. I could throw in some Equipose aswell to help with fat loss. Do you think Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - will be a good addition or is it unnecessary?


Thanks for all replies, alot of great suggestions.
 
enigm@tic said:
I was thinking more EOD shots. I'm sticking with testosterone propionate mainly because its least expensive.

For PCT - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - I had Finasteride and Arimidex in mind. I havent got anything yet but im not sure yet if I can get my hands on Finasteride as yet.

My main concerns are baldness and acne.. more so going bald. What do you think is a good alternative if I cant get Finasteride to combat hair loss? the acne should be quite easy to manage.

I'm dieting at the moment, will prob start my cycle when im at around 10% bf.. im 13% now. I could throw in some Equipose aswell to help with fat loss. Do you think Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - will be a good addition or is it unnecessary?


Thanks for all replies, alot of great suggestions.


If you are doing eod day shots that amounts to 350mgs/week.
If you just shoot m,w,f you are going to wreak havoc on your hpta.
Prop is not really cheaper. A bottle will last you ten shot which would be M, W, F, S, T, Th, Sa, M, W, F. That is three weeks. So you will need to have FOUR 10cc bottles on hand to do a ten week cycle.
You will need ONE 10cc bottle of enanthate to last ten weeks.
You do the math.
Also, get yourself some HCG, clomid too before you start.
Best of luck!
 
njmuscleguy said:
why do people insist that 12 weeks is the "standard"??? whatever happened to 8-10 week cycles, especially for newbies??


i agree 8-10 weeks is more than enough for a first run
 
enigm@tic said:
testosterone propionate, 300mg a week for 8 weeks. First cycle, only want it to be light.

Thoughts?

for a 1st cycle that's going to be pretty challenging because you're not used to injections.why not go with a longer ester like enanthate or cypionate where you can get by with once a week injections?at least that way you can slowly break yourself in on the process and whether or not you actually want to commit to sticking yourself that often..


best of luck bro :)
 
Also i would like to add that most prop stings like a bit*h!!!!

RADAR
 
slat1 said:
If you are doing eod day shots that amounts to 350mgs/week.
If you just shoot m,w,f you are going to wreak havoc on your hpta - hypothalamic-pituitary-testicular axis - - hypothalamic-pituitary-testicular axis - .
testosterone propionate is not really cheaper. A bottle will last you ten shot which would be M, W, F, S, T, Th, Sa, M, W, F. That is three weeks. So you will need to have FOUR 10cc bottles on hand to do a ten week cycle.
You will need ONE 10cc bottle of enanthate to last ten weeks.
You do the math.
Also, get yourself some HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - - human chorionic gonadotropin - , clomid too before you start.
Best of luck!

Hmm you got me thinking now.

Maybe I should just do testosterone enanthate for 10 weeks, forget the Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - and keep it simple.

What dosage do you think I should use the test E at then?

EDIT - Does anyone here notice more sides from Test E compared to propionate besdies from higher dosages? such as acne, bloat...
 
enigm@tic said:




?????theres no need in bumping this, i believe all the questions you want to know have been answered.
If you have something to ask please feel free......that's what this forum's about..:)
RADAR
 
RADAR said:
?????theres no need in bumping this, i believe all the questions you want to know have been answered.
If you have something to ask please feel free......that's what this forum's about..:)
RADAR

This is last one..

Does anyone here notice more sides from testosterone enanthate compared to propionate besdies from higher dosages? such as acne, bloat...

because people I know have experienced this difference.
 
njmuscleguy said:
why do people insist that 12 weeks is the "standard"??? whatever happened to 8-10 week cycles, especially for newbies??

What's the physiological difference between a newb and a veteran? Nada. The only difference is that a vet knows how to juice and newb is relatively clueless. Why not 10-12 weeks then? You can always cut it short if it's not for you( and that's gonna happen right?).
 
Dude just do what I am going to do. Do 250mg of enanthate a week for 10 weeks. Its not a high dose cycle but with proper diet and training obviously your gunna feel better than you do just naturally right? One injection a week is all you need to worry about. If you overload yourself ur gunna be likef uck this this is a chore. I dunno about you but id rather worry bout injecting once a fuckin week and then be able to focus on other things like my diet and training rather than shit i gotta inject already again im still sore or w/e you may feel like.
 
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