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First Cycle

dave0813

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I am 36, 250lbs, 16%BF and have been working out for a few years and I am looking to get to the next level. After searching for a few months and talking back and borth with a few from this site, I think I came up with a good first cycle. Please give me your input:

Week 1 -12 (500mg a week of Test)
Wk 13->15 150mg a day clomid (150mg)
Wk 16->17 50mg a day clomid (50mg)
With Nolvadex (40mg) on hand during the cycle if needed if the boys start to shrink
 
Good ole Test...great for size and strength. I'm only on my second cycle, so I'm by no means a vet, but I'm on 500mg of Test Prop/500mg of Tren A right now (per week with ED injections) and got great results. I'm 35, 6'2", 214lbs about 13% BF.

Maybe look into adding something else with the Test? Either way, you'll see some good gains with 500mg of Test

Good Luck
 
gooch, what did you use on your first cycle? How noticeable were the gains?


TheGooch said:
Good ole Test...great for size and strength. I'm only on my second cycle, so I'm by no means a vet, but I'm on 500mg of Test Prop/500mg of Tren A right now (per week with ED injections) and got great results. I'm 35, 6'2", 214lbs about 13% BF.

Maybe look into adding something else with the Test? Either way, you'll see some good gains with 500mg of Test

Good Luck
 
First cycle was:

250mg of Test E EW
400mg of EQ EW
50mg of Winny ED

The winny was bunk; almost certain of that now. Shoulda had more Test in there for my first cycle as well. Overall, my results where "ok". Diet is key, can't state that enough!

Tightened down my diet/ cardio/ protein intake much more for my 2nd cycle, and it shows!

Expect to gain a few pounds and get quite a bit stronger from 500 mg of Test. I assume you're opting for Test E? I prefer Prop, but Test E is easier. Takes a while to "kick in" though (5 weeks for me). The Prop I felt on day 6...
 
dave0813 said:
I am 36, 250lbs, 16%BF and have been working out for a few years and I am looking to get to the next level. After searching for a few months and talking back and borth with a few from this site, I think I came up with a good first cycle. Please give me your input:

Week 1 -12 (500mg a week of Test)
Wk 13->15 150mg a day clomid (150mg)
Wk 16->17 50mg a day clomid (50mg)
With Nolvadex (40mg) on hand during the cycle if needed if the boys start to shrink

Good first cycle... I gained 15-20 lbs. with test E only for 10 weeks... and I don't even workout like a bodybuilder. You'll do well.
 
dave0813 said:
With Nolvadex (40mg) on hand during the cycle if needed if the boys start to shrink

High, high chances they will shrink while on cycle. Nolvadex is usually kept on hand in case you have some lumps pop up under your nipples.
 
dave0813 said:
I am 36, 250lbs, 16%BF and have been working out for a few years and I am looking to get to the next level. After searching for a few months and talking back and borth with a few from this site, I think I came up with a good first cycle. Please give me your input:

Week 1 -12 (500mg a week of Test)
Wk 13->15 150mg a day clomid (150mg)
Wk 16->17 50mg a day clomid (50mg)
With Nolvadex (40mg) on hand during the cycle if needed if the boys start to shrink
Dave,
Start your clomid wk. 15 the test E will take 2 weeks to clear. Straight 50mg ed, no need to front load, it'll just give more sides.
 
dave0813 said:
I am 36, 250lbs, 16%BF and have been working out for a few years and I am looking to get to the next level. After searching for a few months and talking back and borth with a few from this site, I think I came up with a good first cycle. Please give me your input:

Week 1 -12 (500mg a week of Test)
Wk 13->15 150mg a day clomid (150mg)
Wk 16->17 50mg a day clomid (50mg)
With Nolvadex (40mg) on hand during the cycle if needed if the boys start to shrink

hey bro, if this is your first cycle you might wanna run it for 10 weeks make it easier for you to recover also you will prob stop gaining before the 12 weeks is up so why waste it. no need to use 150mg of clomid ED, 50mg ED thru out PCT will be fine, run it for 20-30 days. 500mg of test a week??? is your decision but if your diet and training is in check you would only need 250mg a week for your first run... Nolvadex wont bring your balls back to size if they start to shrink but its good to keep on hand incase gyno starts to appear, and if it does 20mg ED is enough. HCG will bring the balls back to size..
 
Everyone,
thanks for the tips and helpful hints. any suggestions on whether test e or prop

Xrist
So I am guessing if I went to 250mg of test for the first cycle that would be enough?

rdel
thanks for all your help

gooch
thanks for sharing your info
 
Test is test bro. For a first timer people will generally say do the long ester test so you won't have to deal with ED or EOD injections. So test e 500mgs/EW for 10-12 weeks will be great. Inject 2x a week. Monday(250mgs) Thursday(250mgs). Test only is a great first cycle so don't let anyone tell you different. A kickstart with an oral or prop is optional. 250mgs for a first cycle should do well also given your diet/rest/training is 100%. A happy medium between 250-500mgs would be 375mgs/EW (.75cc twice a week).
 
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