First Cycle

[knell]

3500-4500 cals mostly low-fat high protein foods, but I sneak in a burger or two every now and then.

 

[Bruce]

the best is icn galenika. bd is fine but human grade is best

 

[golferstud84]

and what are your goals for this cycle?

I'd hit up http://michaelandkendra.com/BMRCALC/bmrcalc.htm .. check it out its pretty helpful just follow the links...

For me my first cycle 3500 wasnt enough for me to make the gains i wanted... ended up with 8 pounds or so

second cycle with 5000 + calories put on 25

Just make sure you really focus on the diet to reap the benefits of your first cycle... first is suppose to be the best... for me it was my second


i'm sure you may have your diet planned out perfectly... just tryin to help

 

[Bruce]

yep. at 4000cals i put on barely anything. 5000 its a whole different story. i can't even believe the scale when i am able to pump out 5000cals and 300g of protein

 

[oxymed]

I haven't got the sust yet. So I still have the chance to switch. I've heard good things about sust, so that's why I was going get it.

So you think I should go with some BD test enanthate instead?

Get human grade test if you can.....I ran BD test-e and found it to be very painful for up to 4 days after injecting. Switched to human grade and pain went away.

 

[knell]

well I've already placed the order with my source for BD dbol and test e. What is this stuff for animals? lol

I wouldn't even know where to start to get 300g's of protein a day (besides drinkin 3 protein shakes a day). I'm a hard gainer and I'm not that big at all. I used that link golferstud84, and it said I need 3490 a day to gain 2lbs a week. Good info by the way thanks. I will try to get it up to 5000 a day.

 

[Goldprospector]

I've been working for a few years and I've deceied to step into the dark side.
This will be my first cycle.

Sustanon 250, 500 mg week
Deca, 400 mg week
Dbol, 30mg a day
Nolvadex 10mg a day.

I've included Clomid Therapy for post-cycle.


What do you guys think for a first cycle?

The first cycle plan stinks, How long are you planning on running it?
You say that you have "Heard good things about sust" . Have you done any research to see what sust actually does? or just going by what you hear? The same good things that you have heard apply to any kind of Test. Test is Test. As long as you stuff is legit, then your body will react the sme way to 500mg of sust or Enan.

Go with 8 to 10 weeks of any kind of test at 500 mg EW. Split into 2 injects...Leave off the D-bol until you find out how your body will react to any one single compound (this is only my opinion) I don't think D-bol will really hurt you, and it will clear your system quickly...But I still like the single compound idea for the first cycle.

 

[markshark]

I've been working for a few years and I've deceied to step into the dark side.
This will be my first cycle.

Sustanon 250, 500 mg week
Deca, 400 mg week
Dbol, 30mg a day
Nolvadex 10mg a day.

I've included Clomid Therapy for post-cycle.


What do you guys think for a first cycle?

ill prob get flamed here...but i think thats a nice first cycle, i wouldnt see needing 400mg deca a week though. maybe 300mg first time. 30 mg dbol is cool and 500 mg test is pretty essential. just educate and make sure u understand about pct enough because thats how ive fucked up before. and id run it like at least 10 wks, 12 max.

 

[SwolK]

I agree with test only 500mg for 10 weeks.
make sure PCT is in check.

Bro, you better figure out where you are going to get those 300g protein and 4500-5000 cals if you want to bulk. otherwise you are wasting your money on the gear if you dont eat enough

 

[mr. snakes]

I've been working for a few years and I've deceied to step into the dark side.
This will be my first cycle.

Sustanon 250, 500 mg week
Deca, 400 mg week
Dbol, 30mg a day
Nolvadex 10mg a day.

I've included Clomid Therapy for post-cycle.


What do you guys think for a first cycle?

wk 1-4 Dbol 30mg/ED
wk 1-10 Deca 300mg/wk
wk 1-12 Sust 500mg/wk