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knell

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I've been working for a few years and I've deceied to step into the dark side.
This will be my first cycle.

Sustanon 250, 500 mg week
Deca, 400 mg week
Dbol, 30mg a day
Nolvadex 10mg a day.

I've included Clomid Therapy for post-cycle.


What do you guys think for a first cycle?
 
Dbol isn't even necessary, I just like it cuz sust takes a while to kick. And also, how long is this cycle? I'd go 8 weeks and it'll clear in 10.
 
no deca bro. sust is fine i would reccomend single ester test which is cheaper and you can benefit from more. the dbol is fine to kick off. use nolva as needed. if gyno pops up take some thats it. you should get an anti e like adex or aromasin to stop bloat and gyno from even forming. you are gonna want hcg for the pct, your testes will probably shrink, the only way to get them back to size is to take hcg. run hcg 1000ius mon wed fri for 3 weeks with 20mg of nolva ed for the three weeks a week after your last shot of test.
 
I will take your guys advice and leave out the deca until my next cycle. I will just take the sust and dbol for my first cycle. I'm already pretty cut so I'm trying to bulk, not cut. I'm assuming I should get some pretty decent gains from sust/dbol cycle, right? I have my diet in check.

Thanks bros, I appreciate it
 
yes solid gains for sure if your diet is good. 4000-5000 cals and 300g of protein a day for bulking you will love the results. did you already get the sust cause test e or cyp would be a better choice
 
I haven't got the sust yet. So I still have the chance to switch. I've heard good things about sust, so that's why I was going get it.

So you think I should go with some BD test enanthate instead?
 
everyone says they have their diet in check.... but honestly bro how many calories are you aiming for... Make sure you track it
 
and what are your goals for this cycle?

I'd hit up http://michaelandkendra.com/BMRCALC/bmrcalc.htm .. check it out its pretty helpful just follow the links...

For me my first cycle 3500 wasnt enough for me to make the gains i wanted... ended up with 8 pounds or so

second cycle with 5000 + calories put on 25

Just make sure you really focus on the diet to reap the benefits of your first cycle... first is suppose to be the best... for me it was my second


i'm sure you may have your diet planned out perfectly... just tryin to help
 
yep. at 4000cals i put on barely anything. 5000 its a whole different story. i can't even believe the scale when i am able to pump out 5000cals and 300g of protein
 
knell said:
I haven't got the sust yet. So I still have the chance to switch. I've heard good things about sust, so that's why I was going get it.

So you think I should go with some BD test enanthate instead?
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Get human grade test if you can.....I ran BD test-e and found it to be very painful for up to 4 days after injecting. Switched to human grade and pain went away. :mix:
 
well I've already placed the order with my source for BD dbol and test e. What is this stuff for animals? lol

I wouldn't even know where to start to get 300g's of protein a day (besides drinkin 3 protein shakes a day). I'm a hard gainer and I'm not that big at all. I used that link golferstud84, and it said I need 3490 a day to gain 2lbs a week. Good info by the way thanks. I will try to get it up to 5000 a day.
 
knell said:
I've been working for a few years and I've deceied to step into the dark side.
This will be my first cycle.

Sustanon 250, 500 mg week
Deca, 400 mg week
Dbol, 30mg a day
Nolvadex 10mg a day.

I've included Clomid Therapy for post-cycle.


What do you guys think for a first cycle?
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The first cycle plan stinks, How long are you planning on running it?
You say that you have "Heard good things about sust" . Have you done any research to see what sust actually does? or just going by what you hear? The same good things that you have heard apply to any kind of Test. Test is Test. As long as you stuff is legit, then your body will react the sme way to 500mg of sust or Enan.

Go with 8 to 10 weeks of any kind of test at 500 mg EW. Split into 2 injects...Leave off the D-bol until you find out how your body will react to any one single compound (this is only my opinion) I don't think D-bol will really hurt you, and it will clear your system quickly...But I still like the single compound idea for the first cycle.
 
knell said:
I've been working for a few years and I've deceied to step into the dark side.
This will be my first cycle.

Sustanon 250, 500 mg week
Deca, 400 mg week
Dbol, 30mg a day
Nolvadex 10mg a day.

I've included Clomid Therapy for post-cycle.


What do you guys think for a first cycle?
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ill prob get flamed here...but i think thats a nice first cycle, i wouldnt see needing 400mg deca a week though. maybe 300mg first time. 30 mg dbol is cool and 500 mg test is pretty essential. just educate and make sure u understand about pct enough because thats how ive fucked up before. and id run it like at least 10 wks, 12 max.
 
I agree with test only 500mg for 10 weeks.
make sure PCT is in check.

Bro, you better figure out where you are going to get those 300g protein and 4500-5000 cals if you want to bulk. otherwise you are wasting your money on the gear if you dont eat enough
 
knell said:
I've been working for a few years and I've deceied to step into the dark side.
This will be my first cycle.

Sustanon 250, 500 mg week
Deca, 400 mg week
Dbol, 30mg a day
Nolvadex 10mg a day.

I've included Clomid Therapy for post-cycle.


What do you guys think for a first cycle?
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wk 1-4 Dbol 30mg/ED
wk 1-10 Deca 300mg/wk
wk 1-12 Sust 500mg/wk
 
no reason for him to use both deca and test on first cycle. if he gets gyno he'll have no clue which is giving it to him. besides he doesn't need that much gear on a 1st. so sick of people just saying what they think. have you done this cycle if not don't fucking comment on it imo
 
bruce410 said:
no reason for him to use both deca and test on first cycle. if he gets gyno he'll have no clue which is giving it to him. besides he doesn't need that much gear on a 1st. so sick of people just saying what they think. have you done this cycle if not don't fucking comment on it imo
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my first cycle ever was 400mg test cyp, 300mg deca, 25 mg dbol. 12 weeks. i can comment. im sayin what i experienced...im not his physician.
 
wasn't talking straight to you bro. just in general people throw out a cycle outline without any clue what its like to run it themselves. a little edgy today sorry, but this board has lately had a lot of people just passing on what they heard. i'm looking out for this guy. his goals can be attained from just the test, the dbol isn't even needed but fine. the deca is just not needed he can wait till his second cycle for that. he needs to run a basic cycle with pct and know how his body reacts and recovers. then he can run something like deca which shuts you down hard
 
bruce410 said:
wasn't talking straight to you bro. just in general people throw out a cycle outline without any clue what its like to run it themselves. a little edgy today sorry, but this board has lately had a lot of people just passing on what they heard. i'm looking out for this guy. his goals can be attained from just the test, the dbol isn't even needed but fine. the deca is just not needed he can wait till his second cycle for that. he needs to run a basic cycle with pct and know how his body reacts and recovers. then he can run something like deca which shuts you down hard
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agree...
 
I'm going to go with the dbol 30mg/ED + test e 500mg/W cycle and try to get my diet from 3500-4000 to 4500-5000+ a day. If all goes well I will throw in deca on the 2nd cycle. Thanks for all of your guys advice, I really appreciate it.
 
knell said:
I'm going to go with the dbol 30mg/ED + test e 500mg/W cycle and try to get my diet from 3500-4000 to 4500-5000+ a day. If all goes well I will throw in deca on the 2nd cycle. Thanks for all of your guys advice, I really appreciate it.
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no doubt brother. good to have guys taking in knowledge. you'll love it. keep us posted. welcome to the darkside. make sure you have plenty of pussy around cause you gonna be horney as hell dog.
 
knell said:
I'm going to go with the dbol 30mg/ED + test e 500mg/W cycle and try to get my diet from 3500-4000 to 4500-5000+ a day. If all goes well I will throw in deca on the 2nd cycle. Thanks for all of your guys advice, I really appreciate it.
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now thats a good first cycle. that should give you all the gains you need for a first cycle.
 
agreed... similar to my cycle now...

except my test E is 750/week and i've put on 20 pounds so far in 8 weeks. gl bro keep us updated on your progress
 
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