First Cycle

[RedBird21]

About to start up my first real cycle. Keeping it simple....500mg TestE EW. 10mg nolva throughout along with l-dex to keep bloat down to a minimal. Clomid and Nolva for PCT. 5'9, 185lbs, 13%bf, 23yrs. Working out for 4 years. Anyone tried a similar cycle for their first cycle? My only worrys is losing a lot of my gains. If bloat is kept down and PCT is ran correctly can I expect to keep a majority of my gains? Thanks.

 

[MrTex]

sounds good. but i would run nolva at 20 mg's a day

 

[RedBird21]

Might bump it up to 20mg day. Anyone have any experience with a similar fist cycle? Keep much of the gains?

 

[Mini Viper]

About to start up my first real cycle. Keeping it simple....500mg TestE EW. 10mg nolva throughout along with l-dex to keep bloat down to a minimal. Clomid and Nolva for PCT. 5'9, 185lbs, 13%bf, 23yrs. Working out for 4 years. Anyone tried a similar cycle for their first cycle? My only worrys is losing a lot of my gains. If bloat is kept down and PCT is ran correctly can I expect to keep a majority of my gains? Thanks.

A test only first cycle is nice because its simple and effective and you'll sure know how you will respond to test, thus in the future you can use test and stack with other AAS for a greater effect.
Although, I wouldn't personally use nolva unless you develop gyno symptoms l-dex is enough. I only use nolva at 20-40mg if I develop gyno symptoms until it goes away.
As long as your PCT is up to scratch, keep training as normal after cycle and eat and keep high protein high then there's no reason why you shouldn't keep the gains, however, bear in mind you don't keep ALL of your gains i.e not 100% as is impossible you'll always lose a little and mostly you lose water after cycle. For instance my first cycle, I gained around 11lbs and after my cycle I kept 6lbs and lost 5lbs most of which is water weight. thats 54% of solid mass I gained from my cycle.

You should keep a log of everything so you know whats going on from start to finish and believe me this helps for future cycles!!

good luck and keep us posted
peace

 

[Smokescreen]

My first cycle ever was 500mg's of Enth. per week along with 6mg's of Winstrol tabs per day. And of course 10mg's of Nolva per day. I blew up from 145lbs to 175!!! When i cam off, I only went down to about 167. Not bad heh? You want some estrogen bro. It will help you get bigger and stronger. If you were to go over on the Test or add another bad ass like D-bol, then i would say add A-dex. But if all you concerend about is getting big and fast, then just use Nolva at 10mg's per day. Just make sure you EAT CLEAN AND RIGHT and train hard and correctly. You'll be fine! I gained 30lbs on my first cycle and I would have to say that VERY little of it was water. I would say 80% of it was LBM!

 

[Big Rick Rock]

I woudl still suggest adding about 150mg-200mg of Deca per week. You will be amazed at the results... Test + deca is on of those cases where 2 + 2 = 5... they boost eachother's effects.

 

[RedBird21]

I have been thinking about adding Deca to the cycle, just a little worried about the shutdown that deca can cause and the rise in prolactin levels. I'm sure I would have better keepable gains by adding Deca, just not sure if its worth it?

 

[Big Rick Rock]

I have been thinking about adding Deca to the cycle, just a little worried about the shutdown that deca can cause and the rise in prolactin levels. I'm sure I would have better keepable gains by adding Deca, just not sure if its worth it?

I hear what you are saying... Deca/Test combo is a tried and proven stack. Most guys here started with a Deca/Test as their first cycle.

 

[Smokescreen]

Deca is nice..but a little pricey. I would think that you would get more bang for your buck if you just used Tren instead. What do you guys think about what I said?

 

[RedBird21]

Tren is pretty expensive itself. I think tren would be a little tough for the first serious cycle. Anyone have any other opinions? 400 Test ew, 300 Deca ew? Think I will be alright with those dosages without gettin shutdown too hard? B6 for prolactin, l-dex and nolva ED. Thanks.

Deca is nice..but a little pricey. I would think that you would get more bang for your buck if you just used Tren instead. What do you guys think about what I said?

 

[Big Rick Rock]

Tren for first cycle might be a bit much... the best way to use Trenbolone A is with ED shots... Some guys get burned out with an ED shot regimen. Deca and Test Enath can be shot 2x per week with no problems.

 

[jubei]

Try 350 of test and 200 of deca a week. 10mg nolva/day should be more than sufficient.

 

[Smokescreen]

That sounds good too. And sides will be kept to a mininum like that Jubei.

 

[slash747]

Dont do tren for a first cycle man, theres vets here that have been doing this for a while and havnt done tren yet. Its not a begginers steroid.

Deca is nice..but a little pricey. I would think that you would get more bang for your buck if you just used Tren instead. What do you guys think about what I said?

 

[Smokescreen]

Do it....do it. You can't resist! Feel the power! You must join the elite users of Tren! Then and only then will you unleash fury against all of your enemies!!! HAHAHAHAHA!!! No! Slash is right bro. Lay off the Tren. Deca is the way to go.....for now!! HAHAHAHAHAH!!!

 

[RedBird21]

Thanks for all the advice fellas. I think I will go with 450 TestE and 250Deca EW. B6,l-dex, and nolva ED throughout. Clomid and nolva for PCT. Got the gear on the way and lookin forward to it. Should 200mg of B6 be plenty enough to handle the prolactin associated with that low of a dosage of deca? Thanks bros.

 

[Smokescreen]

Good luck man!

 

[Big Rick Rock]

Thanks for all the advice fellas. I think I will go with 450 TestE and 250Deca EW. B6,l-dex, and nolva ED throughout. Clomid and nolva for PCT. Got the gear on the way and lookin forward to it. Should 200mg of B6 be plenty enough to handle the prolactin associated with that low of a dosage of deca? Thanks bros.

Sounds good bro!

Don't over do the Armidex... at that dosage I wouldn't go over .25mg (a quarter of a miligram) ED.

i hope you are getting the Armidex from our sponsors

 

[IronMind-]

Im also thinking of that for a first cycle...What about deca dick do you think it will really screw with me? I have heard ppl having deca dick for months with no cure! But i do hear the test would combat the deca sides... Also think with Test and deca id need arimidex? its easier to get nolva where im from, would that work just fine? thanks

 

[Smokescreen]

That would work fine. I think Dostinex will help with Deca like the way it helps with Tren. Ask around on that.

 

[RedBird21]

Yeah I think you could find l-dex pretty much anywhere you are from. I'm not risking anything and going with l-dex and nolva throughout. I want to eliminate as much bloat as possible. The b6 ED should do well to prevent prolactin gyno. I donno, just what I have figured out researchin this cycle.

 

[concrete]

As a first cycle, keep it clean and simple. I would opt with a test only cycle. You want to get a feel of how you react to everything your putting in your system. Remember this is your body and these are hormones were screwing with. Get a feel of the test, then stack something with it on your next cycle. Dont worry too much about nolvadex, I would use it if you get signs of gyno. Remember there is no such thing as doing one cycle, use every cycle to develop your next one. Dont rush yourself and youll end up with quality gains. good luck.

 

[RedBird21]

As a first cycle, keep it clean and simple. I would opt with a test only cycle. You want to get a feel of how you react to everything your putting in your system. Remember this is your body and these are hormones were screwing with. Get a feel of the test, then stack something with it on your next cycle. Dont worry too much about nolvadex, I would use it if you get signs of gyno. Remember there is no such thing as doing one cycle, use every cycle to develop your next one. Dont rush yourself and youll end up with quality gains. good luck.

I think I might follow your advice and leave the Deca out. Just tough decision to make. Think I would probably have more keepable gains from throwing Deca in but I guess I can always wait for the next cycle to do that.

 

[gonelifting]

I`m 5 weeks into a first Test Enth Dbol cycle and after one week I got gyno symptoms and THEN started with the Nolva. A week later I started with Armidex. I was gaining great UNTIL I started the Nolv/Adex, now it`s at a halt. What I`m trying to say is, if you can stay away from the Nolva Ldex/Adex, do it. Only use it if you have to like others have suggested. I wish I did`nt have to but the burning nipples forced me... I`m still getting stronger but the weight gain has stopped. YES it`s just the water weight that`s probably coming off but I did`nt mind the bloat on my skinny frame.lol 6ft3" 247 now started at 230 5 weeks ago. good luck

 

[Smokescreen]

Bottom line, wait on the Nolva until signs of gyno are there. Then take it! But remember...your going to get bloated to some degree. Everybody is different though. You might get a little, you might get a lot!