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first cycle, what do you think?

scruples

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please criticize:

test en. 400mg/week
EQ 400mg/week

10 weeks, liquidex @ .5mg EOD

standard clomid therapy following cycle

currently 6'0" 195 15-16% (??)

25 years old, lifting for 2.5 years, this is an informed decision to start AAS thanks to this board

thank you.
 
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What are your goals? Just mass, or are you trying to shed some bodyfat too?My first cycle I used Deca 300 mg and dbol 30 mg a week. I gained 32 lbs(no liquidex so some water) and ended up keeping 18 lbs.

Awesome strength and a nice amount of muscle. Very cheap cycle.
 
I'm not a fan of stacking for a first cycle, simply because you cannot accurately differentiate between the drugs in regard to the effects/side effects exhibited.

However, I'd guess you'd be pleased with the results obtained from your proposed cycle. If you decide to run it, give it hell. Each day in the gym counts, each and ever meal counts...
 
Silent Method said:
I'm not a fan of stacking for a first cycle, simply because you cannot accurately differentiate between the drugs in regard to the effects/side effects exhibited.

excellent point... if i decide to run only one, test would be the way to go, correct?
 
In my opinion, test is surely the way to go. It's regarded as one of the best "base" steroids. You will get more bang out of test only than EQ only.

My first cycle was test at 500mg/week. I had awsome results even though I was forced to end my cycle (reasons not concerning the cycle) after 6.5 weeks.
 
I dont think you need that much for your first cycle though. You can gain a lot just on 400-500mg. test/week for your first cycle if you eat and train right...Then if you want to do other cycles later you can up the dose a little but I would begin with a small dose and then up it if you dont reach your goals.

Just my two cents.
 
Looks good maybe you could throw in some dbol for 4-5 weeks to give the cycle a kick start. You may find you need more liquidex\arimidex, i did .25\d on my first cycle and was still bloating quite heavily but you may be different of course,

good luck :)
 
Do not throw the dbol in, the more you use this cycle the more you will have to use for subsequent cycles to ellicit equal/better gains.You DONT need 800mg for 1st cycle
 
If you only ran one I think eq would be the better. You will retain more gains with that but you will gain slower.
 
Scruples, just a little constructive criticism that will help you out. Try to bring your bodyfat down to at least the 9-10% range before starting your cycle. You will see ALOT better results!!! Also, stick to the basics for your first cycle. Test@400-500mgs for 10 weeks and Dbol@25mgs a day for the first 4 weeks. This will bring you EXCELLENT results without going overboard on the doses!!! Trust me, bro!!!
 
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