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will be doing first cycle soon, a bulking cycle. need to put some more meat on, and some say it's not a good idea bla bla to jump to a cycle like this right away , but i am not asking for an opinion on this view, but am looking for some suggestions on how to take and how much to take. I am only 5'6 155 pounds, it's alright if a lot of you are thinking dont bother doing them but please only reply helpful/the help i am asking for in this post. Anyways, planning on oral dianabol, with deca-durabolin and test e. i was thinking d-bol for 4 week's, deca durabol for 10 and test e for 12, does that sound right? i'd like any suggestions on lenghts of cycle, and doses. I was thinking on 30-40mg of d-bol, 350-400mg deca-dura and 500mg test e. I am positive i naturally have low test, have never been tested for it but the last year i have had low to no libido like no urge to have sex, never have any energy, also i believe i've never had normal test level's, i am 21 yrs old and have pretty much no facial hair other than my upper lip funny i know LOL... Anyways i would like any helpful information for the answers i am looking for and would really appreciate anyone that could help me out, am looking to bulk up a little, i hear the test makes ya feel great and im sure it would make me feel like a million bucks with how my test level's have been going lately, thanks.:theshadow
 
only reply helpful/the help i am asking for in this post. . Anyways i would like any helpful information for the answers i am looking for

Sounds like you do not want answers just for us to tell you everything you want to do is correct...that is what a suckass employee is for...we only give honest opinions and if you don't like them...well that is just tough ...and my advice is you are too young, too small, no training base, too arrogant, no clue, and so forth.
 
This is only going to lower natural test even further. Btw you have the wrong attitude and we get many people like you posting everyday. You are going to get eaten alive...

Yeah youre smarter than all the vets here and arent going to listen because youre insecure and want to look good for summer. :/ heard it all before bud

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Man, this is getting out of hand.

The ONE thing and ONE thing only that is right about any of this is that you posted stats.

That being said, you're no doctor and you have no idea what your test levels are just because you have a pornstache.

Food and training is your answer for the next couple years bro, this stuff is not a magic overnight miracle worker.

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Sounds like you do not want answers just for us to tell you everything you want to do is correct...that is what a suckass employee is for...we only give honest opinions and if you don't like them...well that is just tough ...and my advice is you are too young, too small, no training base, too arrogant, no clue, and so forth.


LOLLLL love it... eddy, what do you think, sounds like someone stayed at a holiday inn last night huh? fucking doctors everywhere!! LOLLLL
 
the one thing i will never understand is when someone wants to ask for help, yet they already have all the answers?? Let me say this, if you want help, that's what were here for... but when you come in being arrogant as fuck in your posts and acting the way you are, NOONE is going to help you bro... especially when your wrong and it sounds like you already know that!
 
will be doing first cycle soon, a bulking cycle. need to put some more meat on, and some say it's not a good idea bla bla to jump to a cycle like this right away , but i am not asking for an opinion on this view, but am looking for some suggestions on how to take and how much to take. I am only 5'6 155 pounds, it's alright if a lot of you are thinking dont bother doing them but please only reply helpful/the help i am asking for in this post. Anyways, planning on oral dianabol, with deca-durabolin and test e. i was thinking d-bol for 4 week's, deca durabol for 10 and test e for 12, does that sound right? i'd like any suggestions on lenghts of cycle, and doses. I was thinking on 30-40mg of d-bol, 350-400mg deca-dura and 500mg test e. I am positive i naturally have low test, have never been tested for it but the last year i have had low to no libido like no urge to have sex, never have any energy, also i believe i've never had normal test level's, i am 21 yrs old and have pretty much no facial hair other than my upper lip funny i know LOL... Anyways i would like any helpful information for the answers i am looking for and would really appreciate anyone that could help me out, am looking to bulk up a little, i hear the test makes ya feel great and im sure it would make me feel like a million bucks with how my test level's have been going lately, thanks.:theshadow

Heres ur suggestion you learn how to eat and train!!! Your too little for aas and un smart you know shit about aas your going to stack three things already!!! Your an idiot sorry I tell it how it is 155?! Kidding

Straight up!

Btw stupid first cycle! Deca!

Dont come on this site and tell us what ur going to do and then ask for advice.

Id lock this if I could.

If your gonna be a dumb ass then run

Test e 250 1-12
Deca. 100. 1-10
Dbol 10 1-4

Oh and u got ur caber or prami right or let me guess whats that? U hv an ai for on cyc rite or let me guess whats that? Liver gaurd? Fish oil? What about your cortizol? Kid u hv no clue! Seriouly not being a dick but your just fucking urself up!

Ur test levels are low? Whats low?200?

U have a problem fix that first your trying to run a gas engine on disel your gonna smoke like shit and feel the same.

Do it your way but no one will help with doseage bc its not a smart first cycle and un practical.

Ur first cycle will be one of the best and will never like anther as far as gains. Once uce used a compound ur body will not gain as great from it the next time. Thats why run one thing at a time

Do test e at 250 for 10 weeks

Nex cyc try cyp bump to 500

Try sus at 500

Try t prop at 500

Then run some test try some dbol or adrol one baby step at a time

Deca and tren are last save the 19 nors for wgen u know what ur doing
 
wow, don't gotta be a prick and put me down, also i did read about liver protec and anti estrogen and shit i haven't picked all that shit out yet, im told theres great guys here to give me great tips and shit and i make my first post asking a few questions asking not to be judged or patronised and that's exactly what happens, im not a know it all all i said was im doing a cycle and all i asked was to not be judge on that choice, and just because someone else has done a few cycles and is more knowledgable than me im a fucking idiot ? why not post something helpful like look maybe you should just run the test and not do this, give me something helpful and not pretty much call me an idiot, i figured this was a place where i could rely on other's and ask questions and be helped and not treated like a dumbass, if anyone does have anything helpful for me please post if someone is just going to be ignorant then please move on, i was told this was a good site full of good guys who would be helpful, well i've yet to see that , but am hoping to soon.
 
BTW i suspect low test levels in my body because im on prescribed med that lowers testosterone its self which would make complete sense.
 
Man, this is getting out of hand.

The ONE thing and ONE thing only that is right about any of this is that you posted stats.

That being said, you're no doctor and you have no idea what your test levels are just because you have a pornstache.

Food and training is your answer for the next couple years bro, this stuff is not a magic overnight miracle worker.

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Hahaha pornstache..

But dude in all fairness if you can't gain more weight than 155 naturally what makes you think you will hold onto your gains after your cycle.. esp with low test..

And if you think you have no sex drive now, wait until your trying to recover from deca..

Do a lot more eating, lot more research and check the attitude at the door


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With those compounds you listed you have no idea what you're doing.
 
this is the best site to get help on and we help so many people on a daily basis, you have no idea how many people...

take a look at your post that started this thread... you start off with a complete attitude, and the fact is, you have obviously heard what you haven't want to hear by saying what you said... the comment about don't tell me not to run this bla bla bla... so you've probably already heard that and you already know the cycle you have laid out is completely fucked... Noone is going to give you dosing advice on a cycle that is all fucked up... Noone hear is going to contribute to you fucking yourself up... So leave the fucked up attitude at the door... If you want real help, all you need to say is, what do you think of this cycle... should i change anything to achieve what i am wanting to achieve... NOONE and I mean NOONE is going to help someone that starts off as a prick...
 
wow, don't gotta be a prick and put me down, also i did read about liver protec and anti estrogen and shit i haven't picked all that shit out yet, im told theres great guys here to give me great tips and shit and i make my first post asking a few questions asking not to be judged or patronised and that's exactly what happens, im not a know it all all i said was im doing a cycle and all i asked was to not be judge on that choice, and just because someone else has done a few cycles and is more knowledgable than me im a fucking idiot ? why not post something helpful like look maybe you should just run the test and not do this, give me something helpful and not pretty much call me an idiot, i figured this was a place where i could rely on other's and ask questions and be helped and not treated like a dumbass, if anyone does have anything helpful for me please post if someone is just going to be ignorant then please move on, i was told this was a good site full of good guys who would be helpful, well i've yet to see that , but am hoping to soon.

They're getting on your case because within the first few lines of your initial post you said you weren't interested in people's opinion on whether or not you should run AAS. That is a foolish attitude there are reasons why they advise building a base naturally first, what you're asking is how to run a cycle nobody thinks you are ready for and therefore nobody can, in good conscience, advise you to do it. It'd be going against what they believe as well as potentially hazardous to your health

Also saying "you don't gotta be a prick.." isn't going to do you any favours. Maybe some of the guys were a bit liberal with the swearing but you must understand they see posts just like this every day and having to type out pretty much the same responses all the time gets pretty tedious and wears away patience. Especially when you made it clear you were gonna run a cycle no matter if people thought you were ready or not.

People here want to help you achieve your goals not fuck your health up at an early age!

Stow the attitude and start researching and educating yourself. If you can't build a decent physique naturally steroids are just gonna ruin your health.
 
this is the best site to get help on and we help so many people on a daily basis, you have no idea how many people...

take a look at your post that started this thread... you start off with a complete attitude, and the fact is, you have obviously heard what you haven't want to hear by saying what you said... the comment about don't tell me not to run this bla bla bla... so you've probably already heard that and you already know the cycle you have laid out is completely fucked... Noone is going to give you dosing advice on a cycle that is all fucked up... Noone hear is going to contribute to you fucking yourself up... So leave the fucked up attitude at the door... If you want real help, all you need to say is, what do you think of this cycle... should i change anything to achieve what i am wanting to achieve... NOONE and I mean NOONE is going to help someone that starts off as a prick...

Agreed...kid you have no clue how many bros and intellect you have responding to your attitude driven thread asking for advice, all of these bros here could be giving you advice that you can use for the rest of your life, but as Dylan said you first need to leave your ego at the door, come in and be humble, have an appreciative attitude instead of the one you came blazing in with, and the responses I guarantee would have been a lot different, but now you are trying to make us out to be assholes for coming down on you and your cocky attitude, yeah you are lucky this thread hasn't been locked and you given a time out. This is a forum of respect, knowledge, and maturity...once you keep this in mind prior to coming off like you did...you may find yourself building relationships and friendships here for years to come, and 12 cycles from now achieving your goals the smart and healthy way as this is our lifestyle, our passion, and I know I can speak for many here...we will help you with your health and safety in mind, but if you come in here being a jerk...you will be losing out on some pretty phenomenal advice and expertise from my brothers here and then having to rely on your bros at the gym for advice that could fuck you up for the rest of your life...take a step back, maybe a sincere apology, and try asking your cycle advice again...we also believe in second chances...so it is up to you bro!

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Honestly, if you have hormone problems now (with your natural testosterone), what makes you think adding synthetic hormones will make anything better? For all you know, after you come off of a cycle you can further ruin yourself or maybe cause irreversible damage. Don't be an idiot bro... listen to the bros on EF and what they have to say, they speak from experience. No one can stop you from destroying yourself so in the end, the choice is yours. If you do this cycle and even gain any weight, you're an idiot who doesn't know shit about training and dieting. You'll deflate and be back to your pathetic arrogant self. Just my 2cc.
 
Agreed...kid you have no clue how many bros and intellect you have responding to your attitude driven thread asking for advice, all of these bros here could be giving you advice that you can use for the rest of your life, but as Dylan said you first need to leave your ego at the door, come in and be humble, have an appreciative attitude instead of the one you came blazing in with, and the responses I guarantee would have been a lot different, but now you are trying to make us out to be assholes for coming down on you and your cocky attitude, yeah you are lucky this thread hasn't been locked and you given a time out. This is a forum of respect, knowledge, and maturity...once you keep this in mind prior to coming off like you did...you may find yourself building relationships and friendships here for years to come, and 12 cycles from now achieving your goals the smart and healthy way as this is our lifestyle, our passion, and I know I can speak for many here...we will help you with your health and safety in mind, but if you come in here being a jerk...you will be losing out on some pretty phenomenal advice and expertise from my brothers here and then having to rely on your bros at the gym for advice that could fuck you up for the rest of your life...take a step back, maybe a sincere apology, and try asking your cycle advice again...we also believe in second chances...so it is up to you bro!

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This^^^absolutely.

We aren't the ones needing advice here bro....

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I agree with everyone's advice to you, although I can't say I detected any arrogance in your original question. A little harsh guys lol. He's less likely to listen when he gets torn 10 new assholes in the first post. Dude they are all correct, and I wish I had that advice on my first cycle. But I had a massive. Cycle for my first run too because I was made to believe anything less was sub parr. I lost every bit of my gains... All 30 pounds of it. I'm on my 4th cycle now and running only 225mg of test cyp and 250mg of equipoise and I'm doing everything correctly... And guess what... I've put on about 15lbs of dry lean muscle! You don't need all that shit ESPECIALLY for your size! Save the other stuff for later dude and make your money go further! Good luck with whatever you decide!


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Well, it has been said already, but I have to say it again ... You need to eat like a monster, train like an animal and sleep like a baby. Have your ratios of carbs : protein : fat at the right levels, eat enough clean meals a day, supplement if you need to and by doing that for another couple of years, you are sure to grow, irrespective of what your test levels are. If you are adamant on doing a cycle, then surely you could have left the "and bla bla bla " out, for instance. You can get to a nice and lean 170 - 180lbs naturally, and by then you are older and your body is more adapt and used to training. Waiting until then before starting to cycle will help you SO much.

Then, you want to use 3 compounds for a first cycle ... That is really not advisable, mainly for 2 reasons ... 1 - you are going to oversaturate and numb out your receptors and 2 - if you experience any negative side effects, how will you know which one the compounds is causing it? Also, to recover from a cycle without deca and to recover from a cycle with deca is 2 different things ... Needto did a decent (as usual) write up about a year and a half ago on that subject. If you going to cycle, start smaller, less compounds, and a Test is always advisable as a first cycle, and as a 2nd and 3rd cycle, upping the dosage slightly and then only start adding other compounds. That way you know how your body reacts to the test and you'll notice quickly if things are worse when addinf to the cycle.
 
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I completely had no arrogance intended in my original post, nor am i at all ignorant in person im actually pretty polite. What i ment and i did not explain correctly was that, i was looking for dosing info of each of what to take for a person of my stature, thats why i kept saying i didn't want to be ripped open for choosing to do a cycle just wanted dosing info cause ive seen people post looking for info on this forum before and people kept telling him not too instead of giving him a number which was doo-able. I know now that it was pretty foolish what i was contemplating on actually attempting, its just because of years and years of seeing other's use a'bolics and getting huge, like i know a guy who is maybe like 5'8, he use to be like maybe 160 pounds never worked out, then he decided to do aas and the next time i had seen him later on he was massive easily over 200 pounds, its been a year since then i have noticed him lose some weight here and there but to this day he is still at minimum 190-200, seeing that made me choose a path which was cocky and i know that, and a few here will get an apology from me , i'm sorry(but not every1LoL). Anyways i am not 155 pounds i am a skeleton from the underworld who is on methadone maintenance to treat his opiate addiction (which lowers test levels, i actually heard of being able to go to a doctor and getting a shot of test or RX test treatment's which i may look into.) I am not going to bother to work hard in the next few month's it is completely pointless(being honest here so don't post and kill me LOL) because as i am on methadone maintenance, i've been a drug addict since 15 yrs old, and am still using amphetamines at the moment, but working on completely tossing that out again, and getting off my methadone, then i will have a chance at being healthy again and gaining some weight. For most 155 at my height 5'6 is seen as nothing, but my diet since childhood has consisted of pizza, fries+gravy+cheese, pizza pockets, mr noodles, chef boyardee LOL all junk, not even veggies or fruit, so ya after reading up on vital nutrients and vitamins my body should of been getting from all the healthy food's i have been abscent from in my lifetime, i've come to realize that is most likely what has caused my stunted growth, as my siblings have grown a lot bigger than me. I know that drug use played a role too, but even when i quit for two years in grade 12 highschool when i was 17 - 19, i had never been able to get over like 130 pounds. Last year drug use had caused me to witheraway to 105 pounds(had maybe a month left to live was dying from being so unhealthy fukindope) i had gotten arrested and sentenced 9 month's in jail sucked 8=======D. Anyways they had a full gym at the facility i had been incarcerated at, all cables no free weights for safety reasons im guessing, but in boredom and having a lot of time to kill i decided to give working out a try, and i loved it. Within 5 month's or less i had reached 160 pounds, but i ate like a caveman because my body was so hungry from being starved on drug's for as long as it had been. at 160 i had some fat on me, i believe the BMI scale they had there was reading 20% at that point LOL. I decided to stop myself from eating 3 large bags of chips in my bed before sleeep every night(literally would from hunger) and started eating less at meals and dropped a pretty good ammount of fat in like a month, cut down to 150 pounds and BF dropped 2.5-3% was now 17.5-18, and was toned everywhere exept for about an inch of gut sticking out lol. i chose to lose my pregnant belly because i didnt want to have it for when i was released back home, didn't want the women laughing at me haha. I have a hard time keeping weight on because i dont have much of a hunger anymore, even when not using lately. anyways i juzt spent quite a bit of time typing all this at 4 am , im just hoping that the day that i can get off my methadone comes quick so my body can begin running normally again and producing everything normally/naturally so that i can start to eat more and try and get in shape, im new to this but ready to put the time in , and hopefully not fuck up again and waste all the time i spent making gains(i've lost 35-40lbs/all of my gains i had made in the story i just shared with ya sucks.) anyways im sure i probly went way off topic and stuff but i just wanted to explain where that im at, and be honest n not lie, i do have respect for other's and i hope that other's interacting with myself also have it in return, . ANYWAYS i started typing and just didnt stop so ill make myself stop now or ill end up writing ten times this LOL. Thx to every1 tryin to help me out, take care.
 
Drug addicts aren't welcome here,Everything you posted is plain stupid, GET OUTTA HERE! :lightning: :anvil: :lightning:
 
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