First cycle revised Please review!!

[bodybuilder63]

Ok so i was origionally going to run test and dbol for my first cycle but decided to add some eq so heres what its looking like

W1-12 450mg Test E split (mon/thurs)
W1-10 400mg Eq split (mon/Thurs)
W1-4 Dbol 30mg (ED)
Arimidex-0.25mg ed throughout cycle
Liv-52- ed throughout cycle

Pct:
-Test recovery stack
-Clomid 25mg per day(I know its not the best choice but already have some on hand)
-unleashed( heard i should add this in but not really sure if its necessary)
-Clen( I already have it on hand so i think im going to add it to pct)

Would like to here any criticism, thoughts about cycle any help would be great!! Would also like to see if anyone knows the proper dosage for clen

 

[needtogetaas]

Ok so i was origionally going to run test and dbol for my first cycle but decided to add some eq so heres what its looking like

W1-12 450mg Test E split (mon/thurs)
W1-10 400mg Eq split (mon/Thurs)
W1-4 Dbol 30mg (ED)
Arimidex-0.25mg ed throughout cycle
Liv-52- ed throughout cycle

Pct:
-Test recovery stack
-Clomid 25mg per day(I know its not the best choice but already have some on hand)
-unleashed( heard i should add this in but not really sure if its necessary)
-Clen( I already have it on hand so i think im going to add it to pct)

Would like to here any criticism, thoughts about cycle any help would be great!! Would also like to see if anyone knows the proper dosage for clen

1. clen during pct is a no go. Unless you like losing any muscle gain you got during the cycle. Forget fat burning or calorie eating drugs/products when going into pct. Its the last thing you need.

2. you need to run eq for 14 weeks. Well you do not NEED to but it is way way way better.

3. the rest of your pct looks good. Hell ya throw in the unleashed, but yes drop the clen. Man use the clen during the cycle not after.

 

[Toptoon1]

I dont know man. this isnt really a suggestion. More of a question, for everyone. From what I hear Arimidex doea a great job at blocking estrogen. Supposedly a little too good of a job. As in no estrogen whatsoever. I think you want "some" estrogen in a cycle becuase thats what helps gains. From what I understand taking estrogen out of the equation will severley hinder gains. So I hear that you got to balance the arimidex. Like low does so it does let some estro. Anywho I dont know if .25 everyday would be a balance, or if it will tottaly hinder the estrogen. So in my humble opinion which isnt really worth much considering i have never even seen a steroid, I suggest that you ask around about your plan to take arimidex at .25mg everyday for the whole cycle.

 

[Toptoon1]

might want to keep an eye on this post discussion, its more or less following the concern i was voicing.

(arimidex - too strong ? er just right )

 

[bodybuilder63]

my cycle is only 12weeks long thats all the test i got so should i run eq for 12 weeks instead of 10???

 

[bodybuilder63]

I would like to get more feedback on the eq and how it should be incorporated in my cycle

 

[advanced-stealth]

Why so much for your first cycle? Test itself will give you great results! IMO save the rest for another time.

 

[bodybuilder63]

test and dbol should be fine i decided to add eq basically to help me eat enough food during my cycle

 

[dmc777]

For my first cycle I ran...
1-12 Test E 250mg weekly
1-4 Dbol 30mgs daily

I gained about 17lbs from this cycle and honestly think the dbol was counterfeit. You could bump the test up if you like but I personally save the eq for later. Trust me, the test and dbol will increase your appetite anyways.

 

[bodybuilder63]

yea imma stick to test 450 mg w1-12 and dbol 30mg w1-4 and see how that works out thanks for the advive everyone

 

[burnthiscorpse]

Definatley drop the EQ for the first cycle. after many many PM's and research, when you DO run the EQ run it 14-16weeks.
For appetite, try and get some injectable B-12. That made me want to eat everything in site. which is not what I was after but thats what it did.
And I'm sure you were recomended to run A-dex from the beginning because your starting it off with d-bol. But why not run it .25 EOD or .5 E3D? just a suggestion.

 

[bodybuilder63]

would .25mg eod keep my estrogen leves low enough to prevent side effects like gyno and bloat?