first cycle planned....god or bad planned?

[marcu_s]

ok.
sat down this morning and started to plan my first cycle. just want you guys to check it out and see if ive miscalculated something or if something is just wrong. would really appreciate that, thank u.

so im gonna do my first cycle, its gonna be Test e, 250 mg for 12 weeks.
its gonna look this: (ive wright it all down beacause i want to know how its gona look EXACTLY, beacause u know its my first time and stuff,and im a controlfreak...if its caled that, i dont know)

w1-2 Test 250 mg e5d
w3-4 same as the above but im adding 500iu hcg e3d
w5-6 same there test 250 mg, but no hcg
w7-8 same same but hcg
w9-10 same
w11-12 same whit hcg

w14-16 ill start the pct whit 500iu hcg e3d
also adding 40mg nolva
w17-18 20 mg nolva

how about that.....have ive done the whole cycle thing correct or something ive forgotten....give me feedback guys.
take care bros

 

[rambleon]

Hey Marcus

Looking forward to welcoming u to the dark side.

A few points:

1) 250 mg e5d breaks down to 350 mg ew. Still a sensible dose for a firsttimer but one should always be aware of dosing.

2) What esster will u be running? Even with cyp or enan u might consider shortening injection intervals to keep ur bloodlevels as stable as possible. If ur test is 250mg/ml i'd suggest half a cc e3d. That would total a tiny bit lower than ur proposal but on the whole i think u might be happier with the results in as much as u'd be decreasing the risk of sides such as acne.

3) With this dose it seems excessive to me to be running the hcg throughout. U will be forcing ur natural production when artificial test is being introduced to ur system. What would be the rationale for doing this? Keep an eye on the boys. If the start shrinking then start the hcg. Otherwise wait to ur pct.

Anyways i hope u'll enjoy ur run man.

Happy lifting!

 

[marcu_s]

thanks for the help bro. i appreciate it.

 

[needtogetaas]

Hey Marcus

Looking forward to welcoming u to the dark side.

A few points:

1) 250 mg e5d breaks down to 350 mg ew. Still a sensible dose for a firsttimer but one should always be aware of dosing.

2) What esster will u be running? Even with testosterone cypionate or enan u might consider shortening injection intervals to keep ur bloodlevels as stable as possible. If ur test is 250mg/ml i'd suggest half a cc e3d. That would total a tiny bit lower than ur proposal but on the whole i think u might be happier with the results in as much as u'd be decreasing the risk of sides such as acne.

3) With this dose it seems excessive to me to be running the HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - throughout. U will be forcing ur natural production when artificial test is being introduced to ur system. What would be the rationale for doing this? Keep an eye on the boys. If the start shrinking then start the HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - . Otherwise wait to ur PCT - post cycle therapy - .

Anyways i hope u'll enjoy ur run man.

Happy lifting!

great job bro good advice..

also if you ever want something else that works great for pct look into dermacrine sustain....

 

[Hybridtheory2o]

I will be using the same dosage..so I should be injection 2x a week? I was thinking of doing it everyday at the same time. if i can. not trying to thread jack

 

[! RUSSIAN BEAR !]

i would go for 500mg inject twice a week 250mg mon/250mg thu
so you don;t shut down but 350mg i very good aswell
just keep to the test don't kick start with d-bol first cycle keep to test

 

[njmuscleguy]

E5D is not a good way to go.... E3D or twice a week.

Also, 12 weeks is too long for a first cycle, IMO. 8-10 weeks is plenty I don't know why people are running rampid these days with the notion that 12 weeks is the "norm" for a first-timer's cycle.

 

[al420]

Hey Marcus

2) What esster will u be running? Even with testosterone cypionate or enan u might consider shortening injection intervals to keep ur bloodlevels as stable as possible. If ur test is 250mg/ml i'd suggest half a cc e3d. That would total a tiny bit lower than ur proposal but on the whole i think u might be happier with the results in as much as u'd be decreasing the risk of sides such as acne.

Why? The half life of testosterone cypionate is 10+ days and Enan is at least 7. Pelase elaborate.

3) With this dose it seems excessive to me to be running the HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - - human chorionic gonadotropin - - human chorionic gonadotropin - - human chorionic gonadotropin - throughout. U will be forcing ur natural production when artificial test is being introduced to ur system. What would be the rationale for doing this? Keep an eye on the boys. If the start shrinking then start the HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - . Otherwise wait to ur PCT - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - .

I agree w/ this. HCG shouldn't be needed. If you want a great PCT protocal try:

The second your cycle is over is when you should start this PCT (a week after your last shot, or the day after your last pill is fine).

Week Nolvadex
1 20mgs/day
2 20mgs/day
3 20mgs/day
4 20mgs/day
5 20mgs/day
6 20mgs/day

Week HCG
1 250iu/day
2 250iu/day
3 250iu/day

Week Aromasin
1 20mgs/day
2 20mgs/day
3 20mgs/day
4 20mgs/day

Week Vitamin E
1 1,000iu/day
2 1,000iu/day
3 1,000iu/day
4 1,000iu/day

There you go

 

[st8grad]

Liking the Aromasin PCT.

For your first cycle I don't see why 8-10-12 or longer matters. Run it until the gains stop.

Then run Al's PCT.

Why? The half life of testosterone cypionate is 10+ days and Enan is at least 7. Pelase elaborate.



I agree w/ this. HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - shouldn't be needed. If you want a great PCT - post cycle therapy - protocal try:

The second your cycle is over is when you should start this PCT (a week after your last shot, or the day after your last pill is fine).

Week Nolvadex
1 20mgs/day
2 20mgs/day
3 20mgs/day
4 20mgs/day
5 20mgs/day
6 20mgs/day

Week HCG
1 250iu/day
2 250iu/day
3 250iu/day

Week Aromasin
1 20mgs/day
2 20mgs/day
3 20mgs/day
4 20mgs/day

Week Vitamin E
1 1,000iu/day
2 1,000iu/day
3 1,000iu/day
4 1,000iu/day

There you go

 

[rambleon]

Why? The half life of testosterone cypionate is 10+ days and Enan is at least 7. Pelase elaborate.



I agree w/ this. HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - shouldn't be needed. If you want a great PCT - post cycle therapy - protocal try:

The second your cycle is over is when you should start this PCT (a week after your last shot, or the day after your last pill is fine).

Week Nolvadex
1 20mgs/day
2 20mgs/day
3 20mgs/day
4 20mgs/day
5 20mgs/day
6 20mgs/day

Week HCG
1 250iu/day
2 250iu/day
3 250iu/day

Week Aromasin
1 20mgs/day
2 20mgs/day
3 20mgs/day
4 20mgs/day

Week Vitamin E
1 1,000iu/day
2 1,000iu/day
3 1,000iu/day
4 1,000iu/day

There you go

Hi Al

Well i realize that the halflife of cyp and enan is that long so in theory there wouldn't be any problems. However my first couple of cycles had poking regimens like e5d and my experience was that i got bad acne. I havent really experienced anything like that since I started running the long esters with intervals of 3 days. This is not very scientific i know but i wouldn't be honest if i ignored this experience. Now both u and I know that a lot of factors could act as confounders when the experience wasn't had in a controlled environment. Conclusion: the causal relationship can't be proven but i believe it to be true. Sorry i can't point to anything more substantial than this.

 

[Stallbro]

Hi Al

Well i realize that the halflife of testosterone cypionate and enan is that long so in theory there wouldn't be any problems. However my first couple of cycles had poking regimens like e5d and my experience was that i got bad acne. I havent really experienced anything like that since I started running the long esters with intervals of 3 days. This is not very scientific i know but i wouldn't be honest if i ignored this experience. Now both u and I know that a lot of factors could act as confounders when the experience wasn't had in a controlled environment. Conclusion: the causal relationship can't be proven but i believe it to be true. Sorry i can't point to anything more substantial than this.

I'd love to know the answer on this because one poke a week for test is more convenient than two. If I can shoot Cyp just once a week that would be ideal.