Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below i ran 250mg of each on my first cycle and had incredible gains. i kept about 25lbs and stayed lean after everything was said and done. running more would just be overkill, increase the sides, and cause you to require higher dosages down the road. I would also look into the acne antibiotic your using. i believe tetra is counter productive to protein synthesis.
first cycle opinions
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Maxx Out
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Man, I don't post for almost a year and come back to people tellin' a newbie to start off w/1000mg per week cycle!
This is something he's never tried! He "could" have a be reaction to juice! It's like tellin' hime to shoot 5 bags of dope at once cause he'll get a better high!
ALBINO, u said u wanted slow keepable gains. Don't do more than 500mg/wk of aas, make sure your diet is on, get enough sleep, and train balls to the wall----you won't be dissapointed!
This is something he's never tried! He "could" have a be reaction to juice! It's like tellin' hime to shoot 5 bags of dope at once cause he'll get a better high!
ALBINO, u said u wanted slow keepable gains. Don't do more than 500mg/wk of aas, make sure your diet is on, get enough sleep, and train balls to the wall----you won't be dissapointed!
AlbinoAssassin
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Thanks for sharing your experience Surfcramp. I think I will try the 500mg's (atleast initially) a week, this being my first cycle I would rather start out lower. If I can't grow off of 500mg's a week something is wrong with me. I have pretty good genetics, and a big frame. If I don't feel like that is working I can always increase it, or rethink my diet and training. To the comment made by Maxx Out about me needing to assess my tolerance to gear I agree with that. I don't want to get in over my head and have a bad experience. I am a pretty conservative guy, I don't drink or smoke or anything of that nature so this is a pretty big step for me. After educating myself, I realized AAS doesn't have to be unhealthy or dangerous if used intelligently. 
TheDarkSideNinja
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My Advice....
Sorry it took so long to respond. You will make terrific gains with 500mgs/week and less. If you don't it simply means something is wrong in your training or dieting routine!!! If you wanna bulk up and its your first time i would recommend a single ester TEST such as Enanthate to keep the blood levels more stable. Also you can add some d-bol but why would u want to for a first cycle. Wouldn't it be more logical to see how your body reacts to test??? Here's an example of what i would do:
Weeks 1-10 250-500mgs (test)/week
Depending on what A.S. will let you know when to begin Clomid post cycle!
If you want to keep any possible bloat off check into Arimidex or L-dex
Nolva. on hand in case you are pron to gyno
With this being said check into some supps. such as Tyler's liver detox and milk thistle to keep ya liver clean as a whistle and maybe some cranberry extract for the kidneys and a good multivitamin!!! May wanna add some others as well. Hope this helps and good luck bro.... ~JT~
Sorry it took so long to respond. You will make terrific gains with 500mgs/week and less. If you don't it simply means something is wrong in your training or dieting routine!!! If you wanna bulk up and its your first time i would recommend a single ester TEST such as Enanthate to keep the blood levels more stable. Also you can add some d-bol but why would u want to for a first cycle. Wouldn't it be more logical to see how your body reacts to test??? Here's an example of what i would do:
Weeks 1-10 250-500mgs (test)/week
Depending on what A.S. will let you know when to begin Clomid post cycle!
If you want to keep any possible bloat off check into Arimidex or L-dex
Nolva. on hand in case you are pron to gyno
With this being said check into some supps. such as Tyler's liver detox and milk thistle to keep ya liver clean as a whistle and maybe some cranberry extract for the kidneys and a good multivitamin!!! May wanna add some others as well. Hope this helps and good luck bro.... ~JT~
AlbinoAssassin
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Manny, if I could afford the anavar I definitely would run it. From what I have read about anavar it would be great choice for me considering my goals. I realize steroids aren't something you should cheap out on, but I don't think I can pull it off right now. Maybe for my college graduation (next month 
) I will get some serious bank. I can always hope.
) I will get some serious bank. I can always hope.
DTOX
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AlbinoAssassin said:
Then you don't need that much. You could probably get that from 40mg/day of oxandralone or maybe even 300mg-400mg/wk of Deca or Eq.
[/QUOTE] I am also a little acne prone, I am on tetracycline right now. [/QUOTE]
Then you'll want to stay away from the more androgenic stuff like test. (Unless you don't mind the increased acne.)
AlbinoAssassin
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Yeah Dtox, like I said earlier test puts the fear in my heart. I am on tetracycline, but I am thinking about asking my Dr. for accutane. I am not broke out right now, but I am afraid test will kick my ass in that regard. I am 22 and my dermatologist said it would probably totally go away when I was about 26-27. I definitely don't want to exacerbate the condition. I realize if I get on accutane it can have some pretty serious sides, but damn I'm tired of being broken out.
