First Cycle of Test Eth...

[meshmachine]

Hey, im new to this forum but i have been doing alot of [URL="http://www.ag-guys.com/"]research[/URL] on cycles.

my initial thought was to do deca and test for 8 weeks but ive read alot thats a bit much for first cycle and just sticking to test is a better idea yes? or can i run deca with it

I dont no exactly what brand or type of test im getting yet but i will soon find out. but he said they come in 20ml vials.

i just have a few questions i was hoping you can assist me with

1. Is running Test alone going to give me good results (obviously with good nutrition and work out structure)
2. will i need PCT for this if i run it for 8 weeks? on the lowest but most effiecient dosage (in ml)
3. can you list whats safe to dangerous (in ml) in terms of dosage
4. does taking test have much effect on fertility (also keeping in mind of my doseage level)
5. everyone talks in mg for eg . 'take 250 mg a week' how do u convert ml to mg i looked online but it says it varies from substance to substance.

it would be greatly appreciated for the help.
and im 18 years of age if that has any effect on anything at 132 pounds, very lean been training for 3 years , i have a good diet and tried out many work outs to find what best effects me. i have platued at this weight for the last year. nd i ahve been eating big training hard switiching around work outs resting well noting seems to work, my genetics arnt that great either. as you can tell ima ecto =.= that was just a little personal information

 

[brandonp005]

In my personal opinion bro, you are way too young for the juice. You need more food bro, especially weighing 132 lbs. I understand some people are hard gainers, but at the age of 18 and only 132 lbs, you have a lot of growing left. You've came to the right place though. You can learn a lot here. We are always willing to help.

Post up your diet (what you ate, what time). Go to FitDay - Free Weight Loss and Diet Journal and input your diet. Dont worry, its free. It will calculate everything for ya, then post the food and its stats on here.

Also, post up your training routine bro and we'll get you on the right track.

 

[meshmachine]

ey thanks for the advice i forgot to mention im just barely 5'7 so im not very tall ive got a good build on me for my height so people say. and i lack alot of weight in my legs i do train them but the lag... and are quite scrony... but anyway heres work out plan

MONDAY
(chest)
Incline barbell press 1x12,1x10,1x8
Incline dumbbell press 1x12,1x10,1x8
Flat barbell press 1x12,1x10,1x8
Incline fly’s 3x10
Cable cross over’s 3x10
Flat fly’s 3x10
TUESDAY
(back&triceps)
Chin ups wide 3x10
Chin ups close 3x10
Chin ups wide front face 3x10
Bent barbell rows 3x10
Deadlift 1x10,1x8,1x4
Seated rows 3x10
Overhead tricep extensions (dumbell) 3x10
Closegrip barbell press 3x10
Rope extensions 3x10,1xMAX
Triaqete pull downs 3x10,1xMAX
Dips 3xFAILURE
WEDNESDAY
(legs&biceps)
Squats 1x12,1x10,1x4
Leg press 3x10
Dumbell one leg lunges 3x12
Leg extensions 3x10
Hamstring extensions 3x10
Calf raises 3x10
Standing barbell curl close grip 3x10
Standing barbell curl wide grip 3x10
Dumbell preacher curls 3x10
Hammer curls 3x10 HEAVY
Concentration curls 3x10
THURSDAY
(shoulders)
Dumbell shoulder press 3x8
Barbell seated military press 3x8
Behind head seated military press 3x8
Superset Shoulder Exercise 3x10
FRIDAY
(chest)
Flat Close grip Barbell press 5x5
Incline close grip barbell press 5x5
Peck Deck close rage movement 3x10
Incline fly’s 3x10
Cable cross over’s 3x10
Flat fly’s 3x10
SATURDAY
(triceps&biceps)
Overhead tricep extensions (dumbell) 3x10
Closegrip barbell press 3x10
Rope extensions 3x10,1xMAX
Triaqete pull downs 3x10,1xMAX
Dips 3xFAILURE
Standing barbell curl close grip 3x10
Standing barbell curl wide grip 3x10
Dumbell preacher curls 3x10
Hammer curls 3x10 HEAVY
Concentration curls 3x10

 

[brandonp005]

I hear ya on the height, I'm 5'6" @ 181 lbs. I was 172 before I started using any juice bro.

Check out this workout, it will really help put the size on ya bro.

Bill Starr 5x5 - Madcow Intermediate or Linear Version

5x5 Calculator


***Also, make sure you post up your diet bro. I don't think your getting no where near enough food. Calories must go up bro. Also, remember for maximum growth, you need to take in 1.5- 2 grams of protein per body pound. At your weight, I would assume that 3000 cals per day should put the weight on ya bro. Make sure you get details from FitDay - Free Weight Loss and Diet Journal so we can really tweak it. Also bro, make sure you completely honest with what you say you eat, if not, we can't help ya.

 

[brandonp005]

Also bro, give my log a look. Its very detailed and shows my workouts. At first I did a workout designed by Needto, which consisted of reps of 8. After several weeks we then switched over to the 5x5 workout.

It also shows some of my diets, which could give you some ideas for yours. Its a long log but well worth the read. There are also progress pics posted.

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/m...dybuilding-journal/test-eth-cycle-633158.html

 

[meshmachine]

ey thanks for the work out plan
ive seen it before and i have tried the 5x5 on chest routine didnt give me much mass but gave me strength
but im willing to try it thankyou
Also i read ages ago about the 1.5 -2 grams of protien per body pound i have been eating around 300 grams of protien a day (including the shakes)
on the shake topic is weight gainers a load of bullshit (dymatize super mega gainer in particular)
im doing the food log atm thanks for that link btw pretty sweet bro

 

[meshmachine]

This is a ruff food plan that im doing atm whilst i do the fit day calorie counter (takes a while lol

Breakfast 7:30-a.m.
7 eggs only 3 yolks scrambled
1/4 cup grated cheese
16 oz. milk

Pro: 71 carbs:42 fat:28 cals: 750

Snack 10:30
Protien shake
2 scoops whey
1/2 cup oats
banana
2 cups 1% milk

Pro:63 carbs:94 fat:10 cals:750

Lunch 12:30
8-10 oz. Beef, Chicken, Fish
1/2 sweet potato
1 cup fresh veggies

Pro:50 carbs:49 fat:10 cals: 500

Meal 4 6p.m.
Same as Lunch

Dinner 9:00p.m.
10oz. Beef steak
Potatoe
1 cup fresh veggies

Pro:66 carbs:68 fat:16 cals:610

Totals:
pro:363 carbs:308 fat:84 cals:4,085


Personally im not to found of working out monday wed and friday im more of a mon through to sat person

 

[brandonp005]

^^^ And your not putting on weight? I would love to have the time to have that diet, if I did I would be pushing 190 easy. I got up to 187 by eating around 3400 cals.


***Most weight gainer shakes are loaded with sugars and not too healthy. For some added cals you should order some Better Protein Bars at Needtobuildmuscle.com: Supplements, articles, ..... They taste great and really help put on the size.

I'll PM Needto and send him a link to this log.

 

[meshmachine]

I am able to do this because i still atend school so my life is pretty orgonised into time slots (some times espeicaly weekends i dont follow this eating plan coz i get lazy but still shouldnt make a bigg diff 2 days)
i have no idea why i gain no weight

my max weight was 65kg on the holidays was eating damn well and training superb, school does drain me (final year) and i do get lazy with the eating but breakfast through to lucnh always 100% meal 4 is usual skipped

but dinner is always biggest meal

***** still doing fit day thing

 

[brandonp005]

What time do you work out? Immediately following workout you should have a whey protein shake and simple sugar/carb. I like a tablespoon of honey.