First cycle Inputs

[3rd_SFG(A)_ForLife]

Ok I am thinking about this for a first cycle let me know what you think

200mg Test Cyp 1-2 weeks
400mg Test Cyp 3-14 weeks
200mg Test Cyp 15-16 weeks
25mg Dbol ED 1-3 weeks
30mg Dbol ED 4-6 weeks
Week 17 nothing
40mg Nolvadex ED 18-19 weeks
20mg Nolvadex ED 20-21 weeks

I was also thinking about using either Nolvadex as a Eblocker or taking an OTC like Erase or Cycle Assist, but if I run Nolvadex as an Eblocker I do not know what dosage to take or how frequent to take it thoughts? Also wondered if Erase or an OTC would be better as an Eblocker?

Also thinking about running Anavar weeks 11-16 at a 50mg ED dosage but did not know if that would be running to many things for the first cycle?

Also I would probably run Acnetame if needed and milk thistle from 2 weeks prior to starting until two to four weeks after finishing.

I would be pinning on Mondays and Thursdays as well

Let me know your thoughts on all of it.. it will be greatly appreciated, and let me know if there is anything you would add to or take from this cycle thanks.

 

[NegroPops]

First, there is no reason to bridge the test dosage. Keep it constant throughout the entire cycle. 400 mg per would would work well.

Second, 16 weeks may be a little too long for your first cycle. 12 weeks will be just fine.

Third, you do not want to use Nolvadex on cycle for estrogen, it is not an AI, it is a SERM. Over the counter products are not going to get it done if you are looking to control your estrogen levels. You need a product like Aromasin (12.5 mg EOD) or Armidex (.5 mg EOD)

Fourth, you can add in Anavar at the back end of the cycle, weeks 9-14 leading up until PCT, 60 - 80 mg per day.

Fifth, as far as support, Milk Thistle is not going to do a lot for you. Also you will want to be taking something to keep your balls active, because the test will shut down your bodies own production. This will make it easier to recover. First, for ideal support look at the product N2Guard, you will at least want to be taking this while on DBol, but could also be useful the entire cycle. To keep your balls still active, look into a product called HCGenerate. Both of these products can be found at needtobuildmuscle.com

Sixth, as far as PCT.. Nolva will do nothing for you. Nolva does nothing to restore your bodies natural test production, which is the point of PCT. If you do a Nolva only PCT, the majority of the gains on your cycle are in jeopardy of being lost. Nolva will stop any type of estrogen rebound, but that is about it. A much better option for a SERM for PCT would be Clomid (25 mg per day, 4 weeks). Great additions for PCT to ensure a full recovery would be Forma Stanzol, and natural test boosters. You can find Forma Stanzol at mrsupps.com. And a you can find good test boosters at mrsupps.com as well as needtobuildmuscle.com

Your Cycle should look something like this:

1-12 Test Cyp, 400 mg per week
1-6 DBol, 30 mg per day

1-12 Aromasin, 12.5 mg EOD
1-6 N2Guard, 1 serving per day
7-14 HCGenerate, 1 Serving per day

PCT:
15-18 Clomid, 25/25/25/25
15-18 Forma Stanzol, 7 pumps, twice per day
15-18 Unleashed/Post Cycle Combo, take as directed for PCT
15-18 DAA, 3 g per day

 

[RADAR]

^^^^^ Correct, thats all you need.

 

[RickRock13]

I agree with these guys. Keep it simple, but effective for your first cycle.

 

[3rd_SFG(A)_ForLife]

Thanks I really appreciate you breaking it down for me like that I will do the things you said my only issue is I don't know how to get my hands on Aromasin or Clomid any suggestions? Also the unleashed post cycle therapy is out of stock anything else that is equivalent or just wait and see if it becomes available again? Do you have any DAA in particular that you would recommend? Thanks again I do appreciate it

 

[NegroPops]

you can get clomid and aromasin from many research chemical websites. A good option and sponsor of this site is ag-guys.com. Their aromasin is dosed at 10 mg, which will work just fine. I am sure that Unleashed and Post Cycle will be back in stock asap. Any DAA will do, just make sure it is from a good brand.

 

[3rd_SFG(A)_ForLife]

So I would be ok with going with 10mg of aromasin EOD instead of 12.5 or should I do 12.5? Im thinking about doing the exact cycle you posted except adding N2Guard for weeks 7-12 as well any other thoughts or is it a perfect cycle?... Also which is better to pin shoulders or gluts or doesn't it matter? Thanks

 

[NegroPops]

yes, 10 mg EOD of aromasin will be fine. I think it would be wiser to run the n2guard while running dbol for liver protection, but that is up to you.

You can pin either or.. doesn't make a difference.

 

[3rd_SFG(A)_ForLife]

I meant the N2Guard for weeks 1-12... and should I take the dbol all at once or spread the dosage out like 15am 15pm

 

[NegroPops]

Oh.. well n2gaurd through the entire cycle is a great idea. Dbol has a very short half life, so it would be best to take it multiple times throughout the day.

 

[3rd_SFG(A)_ForLife]

OK thanks for the input it has been very helpful.

 

[3rd_SFG(A)_ForLife]

I do have another question I have seen a lot of Clomid pcts that are higher and stepped down like 100 for 3 days then 75/50/50/25 why is there such a big difference between that and what you recommended? Thanks

 

[NegroPops]

that's how they did PCT back in the day.. a high dose of clomid with some nolva thrown in. there are much better options now a days for recovering. taking 100 mg a day of clomid is not necessary.. all it will do it turn you into a moody bitch. the emotional sides are almost unbearable and you can say bye bye too your wiener while you are using that high of dose

 

[3rd_SFG(A)_ForLife]

Ok so then the PCT that you wrote would be a much better way to recover right... and I started on monday my nipps were a little sensitive yesterday not much but a little I was thinking about uping the Aromasin to 10mg ED because I was just using 10 EOD and I noticed some us it ED and some EOD any inputs on that...

 

[NegroPops]

you can use it ED, aromasin has a shorter half life so it is actually more ideal to be used ED. I would start taking 10 mg ED until your nips feel back to normal. then adjust to 5 mg ED.

And yes, the PCT that I purposed will be much better then running clomid at such a high dose.

 

[3rd_SFG(A)_ForLife]

you can use it ED, aromasin has a shorter half life so it is actually more ideal to be used ED. I would start taking 10 mg ED until your nips feel back to normal. then adjust to 5 mg ED.

And yes, the PCT that I purposed will be much better then running clomid at such a high dose.

I still had nip sensitivity so I raised my intake of aromasin to 15mg ED taking it at that dosage ED won't effect my gains will it?

 

[3rd_SFG(A)_ForLife]

I still had nip sensitivity so I raised my intake of aromasin to 15mg ED taking it at that dosage ED won't effect my gains will it?

Also do you think that Aromasin is better than Anastrozole?