First cycle help. PLEASE

[JohnnyB#12]

I've finaly decided to go for a cycle. im 6'5'' 180 lbs about 6-7% BF 20yrs old. been BBing for 3 years now and am at a major peak. Would like to gain about 15-25 lbs. I can't decide what i should use. i've got 2 ideas so far

deca 400mg/wk 8 weeks
winny 50mg/EOD 8 weeks
then clomid

-OR-
primo 300mg/wk for 10 weeks
sust 500mg/wk for 10 weeks
then clomid

which one sounds best for me? any other suggestions that are better? thanks for your help.

 

[jc21]

i wouldnt go with #1 cause i wont run deca without test. #2 is better imo. but i think the best would be.

week 1-10 500mg/wk sust
week 1-9 400mg/wk deca
week 13-15 clomid.

 

[argent]

i wouldnt go with #1 cause i wont run deca without test. #2 is better imo. but i think the best would be.

week 1-10 500mg/wk sust
week 1-9 400mg/wk deca
week 13-15 clomid.

You stole my answer

 

[RADAR]

Yep JC21 said what i was going to reccommend this cycle will yield some quality muscle gains......RADAR

 

[Realgains]

I don't like either cycle bro...sorry. I would recommend test cyp or enenthate at 500mg per week.
Try this for good gains....test cyp 600 on day one followed by twice weekly injections of 250 each. The first injection should be 3 days after the small front load of 600.
The front load will get blood levels up fast and the twice weekly injections will result in better blood levels and better gains. Also "hormone spiking" is far less and this is better as far as "sides" are concerned.
Two weeks after the last shot of cyp or enanthate start the clomid at 300 mg on day one....yes I said 300 mg....but in divided doses. Taking it with food will improve absorbtion. Then do 50 mg per day for at least 3 weeks ....you may need more time especially if deca is used.

Deca is a decent builder and it is quite mild but it can be difficult to recovery from with many men. It seems to inhibit at the level of the testes far more than other roids. Bill Lewellyn has a study on this and Bill Roberts would also agree with the above.
Winny is terrible for cholesterol.
Primo is too mild for good gains at that dose.
Sust is not the best test to use as it requires every third day injections for best results due to the prop ester in the mix.