Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below Im 18 and have been working out since my freshman year. Iv always been thick and working out my me kinda muscular and fat at the same time. Well I lost 30 lbs and now I look pretty good. But I want to look awesome. A guy is trying to sell me Tbol. Is this going to lean me out? Obviously it will build muscle but does it also increase my thermogrnesis? And what else should I be taking with it? Will I lose my gains after one cycle? And when coming off how will my balls be?
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Ya man, sorry, not gonna get any help.
dont waste your money on steroids right now. INSTEAD, go to the store and spend all your money on steak and chicken, than beg your mom to keep it in her fridge.
Its expensive to eat how YOU SHOULD. Just eat like a monster and do cardio on an empty stomach, or after your workout, 30min, 3 or 4 times a week(this will keep your bf in check).
in the mean time, learn all you can about lifting, nutrition and supplementation
Compete2Win
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They are correct - eat real foods.. Steak, chicken, eggs, oatmeal, sweet potatoes, etc. Make them your staples.
My style would be get as big and strong as possible for some time - shred later. Forget TBol at your age it will be 1 step forward 2 steps back - seen it a million times.
My style would be get as big and strong as possible for some time - shred later. Forget TBol at your age it will be 1 step forward 2 steps back - seen it a million times.
A walking steroid. That is classic. I may steal this. Lmao Listen to the good bro's and save the AAS for when you need it bro.
Syringe
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Congrats on the fat loss....sure you're getting a lot more attention from some sexy ass 18 year old girls now.
So you wanna try steroids and everyone here tells you not to do them. I have to agree with them cause you can still grow naturally without having to take them. You mentioned that you want to look awesome though....what do you consider awesome??
Compete2Win
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Hell no.. buy some jack3d or some of need2's products.. check out the EF supp forum. You will lose your gains with your experience levels.
Draxgear
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18...training since 15.....3 years of experience and you wanna juice it?? Y young brother??? Build your strength base and muscle over the next several years and do your research...on EVERYTHING. You know nothing about your body yet. And I mean that as nicely as I can. NOTHING. I used to personal train student athletes at a college and have seen so many athletes 18-21 who trained with me wanting advice on juicing for different reasons. Mostly trying to compete with what others looked like. Bro....you're getting fantastic results right now. Your body is gonna change so much in the next 7 years. Don't eff up now and throw off hormone levels when they're peaked out as is. Get your diet and rest and training down. Learn what works for you Bc I guarantee its gonna change quite alot in the next few years. Then peak out what youve got, use your gained knowledge, and hit the hormones later and surpass what u normally could. I have plenty of friends who juiced in their teens and now 12 years later, they look terrible Bc of it. Saggin man breasts are not scoring good looking women and theyre not even 30 yet :/
Draxgear
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Let me clear 'worthless' up. Just in case you think I meant needto's products. I meant gnc, or vitamin shoppe. Needto is top notch but even those you don't need at your age. Bottom line...spend your money wisely on good sources of food and learn how to effectively train. My first year of college I started to research instead of doing things how they told me to in high school(which was a crock) and I jumped from 155lbs to 190. I also grew a few inches in there but still.
Ok, well I have the Tbol and started today. I am aware there are risks and yes Im an ignorant teenager. But can someone at least give me some info on what to expect? I'm also taking clenbuterol and milk thistle. I only want to take one cycle and I do not see how this is going to kill me. I am aware I haven't reached full potential, and I am aware no one would recommend it. I am going to start tomorrow taking 20mcg a day for two weeks then 49mcg for two weeks. The guy I'm buying it from says I don't need to so pct with with a Clen Tbol stack. Will 4 weeks really be all that catastrophic for my body?
Draxgear
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Yes you're shutting down your test production endogenously. Stupid move bro. It's not going to give you the gains you want considering you're producing a ton natty. And clen Is gonna suppress your appetite and potentially mess with your heart.
-drop the tbol, it's a waste.
-drop the clen, dangerous compound for the heart. It's not worth it man.
-pick up quality protein.
-learn some training.
Honestly you don't have enough respect to listen to the smart ppl on this forum, I am sure none of them are going to respect that you THINK u know what will or will not hurt you. Mess with your hormones before they mature fully. Shit move my man. Make sure you run a proper pct and hope for the best. Other than that, and learn to eat and train, that's all the advice I can tell u. You're too young for AAS.
-drop the tbol, it's a waste.
-drop the clen, dangerous compound for the heart. It's not worth it man.
-pick up quality protein.
-learn some training.
Honestly you don't have enough respect to listen to the smart ppl on this forum, I am sure none of them are going to respect that you THINK u know what will or will not hurt you. Mess with your hormones before they mature fully. Shit move my man. Make sure you run a proper pct and hope for the best. Other than that, and learn to eat and train, that's all the advice I can tell u. You're too young for AAS.
This! Why ask us if you know everything anyway?
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everyone on this thread did a great job.
to the OP:
1. we have rules on this forum, not cause we are jerks, but because we care. no one can give you advice until you are 21, and if you ask for advice you are also breaking the rules.
2. when you juice at your age you are merely replacing your natural hormones with foreign hormones, makes little sense to me. you don't need roids at your age
3. we have a great diet and lifting section, thats where you should be reading, not the AAS forum. you are too damn young and need to be patient and let your body develop. no one on here was at their peak at 18, bodybuilders peak into their late 30's and 40's. some guys like RADAR are even older than that and are still killing it.. i know a dude at my gym who is 50 and he is making new PR's, so you have years of training to go before you should even worry about where you are right now.
to the OP:
1. we have rules on this forum, not cause we are jerks, but because we care. no one can give you advice until you are 21, and if you ask for advice you are also breaking the rules.
2. when you juice at your age you are merely replacing your natural hormones with foreign hormones, makes little sense to me. you don't need roids at your age
3. we have a great diet and lifting section, thats where you should be reading, not the AAS forum. you are too damn young and need to be patient and let your body develop. no one on here was at their peak at 18, bodybuilders peak into their late 30's and 40's. some guys like RADAR are even older than that and are still killing it.. i know a dude at my gym who is 50 and he is making new PR's, so you have years of training to go before you should even worry about where you are right now.
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