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First Cycle Critique

Ramcononer

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Ok here it goes...please critique...
my goals are a keepable 8-10lbs
5'10.5'
14%bf maybe lower now
188lbs
training 3 years
macros from fitday
protein/carbs/fat
212/143/56

Weeks1-10 Sus 250mgs
Weeks 6-10 Var 40mgs ed

Week12-16
20mg ed Nolva
AIFM'

AIFM during cycle for estrogen related sides

Any Suggestions? This will be my first cycle.
 
sust is fine for a newbie...250mgs will do you good...I know 250mgs was my first and i loved the gains from it...i'd up the weeks on the sust though to 12
 
25homes said:
Up the sust bro and move the var to weeks 8-12 and I would run clomid during PCT

Move PCT out two weeks bro start PCT as soon as you end the var!!
 
Ok...what do you think of the Var..any good results...should I be taking tylers with the var..I will be using sesapure during the cycle.
 
Ramcononer said:
Ok here it goes...please critique...
my goals are a keepable 8-10lbs
5'10.5'
14%bf maybe lower now
188lbs
training 3 years
macros from fitday
protein/carbs/fat
212/143/56

Weeks1-10 Sus 250mgs
Weeks 6-10 Var 40mgs ed

Week12-16
20mg ed Nolva
AIFM'

I would put the orals in the start of the cycle; IMO you don't need anything but a straight test or sust cycle your first time.

If you want gains, you'll need to up your calories, I only see around 1900calories there, your BMR is around 2300. You're in a huge deficit, you'll need a caloric surplus to gain mass. :coffee:
 
Im at a defecit right now as I went from 19% at about 205lbs to where I am now at 14
% 188ish lbs. I wanna keep goin down with the bf but not at the price of more muscle loss. I really wanna maintain what I have and loose the bf. That is where the sus. comes in. That is also why I have chosen to use a relatively low dose..if I can maintain my muslce now and drop the bf id be happy but if i gain 5lbs of muscle in the meantime there would be no complaints.. as it is I feel and see my self losing size and muscle due to my dieting and cardio schedule.
 
Ramcononer said:
Im at a defecit right now as I went from 19% at about 205lbs to where I am now at 14
% 188ish lbs. I wanna keep goin down with the bf but not at the price of more muscle loss. I really wanna maintain what I have and loose the bf. That is where the sus. comes in. That is also why I have chosen to use a relatively low dose..if I can maintain my muslce now and drop the bf id be happy but if i gain 5lbs of muscle in the meantime there would be no complaints.. as it is I feel and see my self losing size and muscle due to my dieting and cardio schedule.


If you want to shed bodyfat, you can do that naturally with the right diet. You don't need AS for that.
 
wont the gear help maintain what I have? When im cutting and losing bf I notice my strength going down and my muscle.
 
I would start out with 10mg of var and see how you react to it; do this for about a week and see how it goes. If you need to, up it by 10mg/week till it feels right. (I did this my first cycle and was very successful)I've heard that you can shoot it as long as every 10 days, so start there. You'll know when it begins to wear off. There's no sence in being crazy to start with since you don't know how you'll react: you may be more than happy shooting every 10 days, or you may have to shoot every 4-5. See how you react and enjoy the feeling bro!
 
IMHO I would up the sust to 500 mg pw and I would hit the var at the beginning of my cycle while I'm waitin for the sust to kick in.... takes most folks about 3 weeks before the sust really kicks in... I also like to frontload... but if you put the var in the beginning this won't be necassary!!


~Papa Lion~
 
what are the pros and cons of putting the oral at the beginning or at the end? I would think at the end it would tighten up your gains......I dunno..
 
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