Fina - ed VS eod - the numbers

[Zyglamail]

How does this compare to the dmso method? Does anyone know what the half life is for transdermal, specifically dmso? Is it any different than inject?

These charts only take into account the half life of a given product(I have done others for EQ as well). The half life is the half life regardless of how its administered. However, there are many factors that are not taken into account such as injection site and volume of injection. There is also evedence that we are only able to metabolize so much so fast. The thing is the studies are not super easy to apply to the real world. Because of that we cant really be certain of anything. My graphs are just a simple formula to calculate half lives and does not take into account the multitude of other variables. But none the less, they do seem to support the effects reported by those who have tried the ed VS eod methods. They are simply a tool to help people decide on the best means to inject. DMSO is a whole other story and likely gets into the blood stream much faster that an IM inj. Which is also likely why its not nerly as effective. Blood levels likely peak fast but drop fast as well, thats one reason 2x day application is recommended for the transdermal routes.

 

[Fukkenshredded]

I have been a newly converted fina freak for the past several months. I noticed immediately, however, the conflicting reports of efficacy in relation to administration frequency and AAS concentration. This conflict of data compelled me to examine the situation myself, and I did so from a research standpoint as well as an emperical one.

The half life of tren, while debatable, is certainly no longer than thirty hours. Even so, this is not the only factor in determining efficacy/efficiency of delivery. Indeed, there are resulting processes from the introduction of the substance as a foreign one in and of itself that are unrelated to the direct utilization of the drug.

I wondered after my first trial with fina why I crashed so hard and fast after the cycle ended. Theorizing that it was partly due to a rapid depletion of the source molecule's bioavailability I then retrofitted my delivery to compensate by diluting my existing fina from the supposed 75mg/ml into a solution of 60mg/ml, which I then administered twice per day, twelve hours apart. While I noticed better results while 'on', the crash at the end was still immediate and severe. I have now decided that I will mix my fina into two seperate batches. One will be at 75, and one at 33.

I would mix a batch at 100 or greater, but I do not believe that this is even possible with the offered kits as they exist. In fact, I now believe that 75mg/ml is EXTREMELY OPTIMISTIC, even if following 'A's directions to the letter. The reason is simply that the solubility of the steroid in oil is poor. True, excessive BA can modify this, but the efficacy of absorption is so negatively altered that the endeavor is counterproductive.

I will do my next fina cycle as follows:

The first inject will be two cc's of 75mg/ml solution in the morning, followed by three cc's of 33mg/ml that night.

From that point on, I will inject one cc of 75 each morning and evening for the seven weeks.

On week eight, I will replace the morning inject with 1 cc of 33.

For week nine, I will replace the evening inject of 75 with a two cc inject of 33.

I will finish the cycle with dual 2cc injects of 33, once in the a.m. and once twelve hours later.

Will this work?

I'll let you know.

Oh, BTW, I think there may be a solvent other than BA that could be utilized in conjunction with the BA in order to reduce injection pain and further aid in the esterification of the steroid...

Any ideas on this?

 

[Jonswole]

For those of use who are going to use damn DMSO, how closely should we follow your graphs?

 

[Chuck T]

Fukkenshredded,
This might be a dumb question but are you using clomid starting 3-4 days after and if so what dose? I thought that clomid was supposed to help keep you from crashing.

Chuck

 

[NewGuy1980]

Damn how often do you guys get laid??? J/k

 

[panerai]

So, basically, FShredded, you are going to taper Fina down, hoping to prevent the crush.
I think, HCG for 10 days, with Arimidex and Clomid, following Arimidex and Clomid for another 3 weeks, following Arimidex only for another week should do a better job.

 

[FreakMonster]

Has anyone done real word comparisons of doing 75mg ED and 75 mg EOD? I mean is there that big of a difference in results you get from Fina by poking yourself EDnstead of EOD?

 

[Zyglamail]

Has anyone done real word comparisons of doing 75mg ED and 75 mg EOD? I mean is there that big of a difference in results you get from Fina by poking yourself EDnstead of EOD?

Not sure if thats a typo or not, but doing 75mg/ed VS 75mg/eod is not a fair comparison because 75mg/ed uses twice as much juice. The thrust of this post was to use the same amount of tren in a two day period of time. So a proper comparison would be 75mg/eod VS 37.5mg/ed.

I have not done the comparison myself since last cycle I ran tren at 75mg/eod and now using 75mg/ed. However quite a few have reported better gains by splitting thier eod dose in half and taking it ed.

 

[manny78]

Am I suppose to see a difference ? ANyway do it Ed unless you're scared of needles.....

 

[FreakMonster]

Not sure if thats a typo or not, but doing 75mg/ed VS 75mg/eod is not a fair comparison because 75mg/ed uses twice as much juice. The thrust of this post was to use the same amount of tren in a two day period of time. So a proper comparison would be 75mg/eod VS 37.5mg/ed.

I have not done the comparison myself since last cycle I ran tren at 75mg/eod and now using 75mg/ed. However quite a few have reported better gains by splitting thier eod dose in half and taking it ed.

Ok I think I meant 37.5mg Ed vs. 75mg EOD. I used 75mg EOD myself and got excellent results.