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Fina - ed VS eod - the numbers

Zen42:

The metabolite 17 beta-trenbolone isn't the same that trenbolone. Your study is worthless.

Regards.
 
Good post!

Zyglamail, great post man! I am planning on throwing in some Tren the last six weeks of my upcoming cycle at 150mgs/ed I take it you wouldn't recommend that Andy......:confused:
 
Re: Good post!

WannaImpress said:
I am planning on throwing in some Tren the last six weeks of my upcoming cycle at 150mgs/ed I take it you wouldn't recommend that Andy......


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Goering said:
Zen42:

The metabolite 17 beta-trenbolone isn't the same that trenbolone. Your study is worthless.

Regards.

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Where do these arrogant, ignorant assholes come from?

17 beta trenbolone is the same thing as trenbolone.

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Andy

This is the precise reason why I advocate making no more than 50mg/ml trenbolone acetate.

From the statement above you pretty much wouldn't recommend the dosage which i plan on taking correct?
 
Re: Andy

WannaImpress said:
This is the precise reason why I advocate making no more than 50mg/ml trenbolone acetate.

From the statement above you pretty much wouldn't recommend the dosage which i plan on taking correct?


Um....... NO..... I recomend making fina 50mg/ml.. I said nothing about daily dose. There's no law that I can think of that says you can only shoot one ml of fina/day.. You can shoot 3 @ 50mg/ml if you like. -Or- you can just make yours 150mg/ml and take one ml/day. Whatever pulls your trigger.

Andy
 
Andy, great point about the BA. High concentrations of fina have almost 50%oil/50% magic. Thats one aspect I overlooked. Also, regarding your quote from the above report, you quoted "Thus, the disposition of 17 beta-trenbolone in humans differs significantly from that in rats, which may have a bearing on the toxicological evaluation of the hormone." but at the beginning, you will notice the following
The urinary excretion and metabolic pattern of 17 beta-trenbolone, a synthetic anabolic Steroid hormone used as a growth promotor for beef cattle in several countries, has been studied in a human subject. For the separation of the metabolites of 17 beta-trenbolone, a reversed-phase high-performance liquid chromatographic method was established.
and the title of the paper was " Disposition of 17 beta-trenbolone in humans.. ALl of which leads me to believe that the parent 17 beta-trenbolone, was tested in humans and the numbers in the report are those from humans and not rats.

And of course all your other points carry significant weight as well. I have read the many reports talking of not only the amount of injected AAS but its location also having a drastic effect on the rate of release. In our position however and our limited access to actual studies, my goal with the chart was not show any carved in stone specifics, but just a visual representation at the most basic level of the difference between ed and eod injections.
 
I cannot prove that the half life of parent trenbolone is not 24 hrs.. But if it was, EOD dosing would have little difference between ED dosing, furthermore, 2xED dosing would mean nothing.. and guys swear by 2xED dosing.

Really, though, try the graphs again giving it a 24hr half life (as reported by Bill Roberts and Brock Strasser)..

If you posted those graphs, NOBODY would do EOD dosing ever again.. there would be HUGE (well over 100%) spikes in blood concnetrations.

I think that study indicates that tren in rats may have a half life of 24hrs.. However, I am certain this is not the case with humans... If it were, this would be some kind of record for a non 17AA steroid.. It would surpass the half life of any other parent AAS by about 1200%

Andy
 
Frontloading fina?

If this graph is even remotely correct, could you get your blood levels to peak on day one by making your first injection 300mg, then continuing with daily 75mg injections? Would this even be worth doing? Thanks.
 
How does this compare to the dmso method? Does anyone know what the half life is for transdermal, specifically dmso? Is it any different than inject?

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