Fina ED...is it really necessary?

[The Almighty]

For my cycle that is.

5'9, 165lbs at 12%bf.
Am planning to start a fina/winny cycle in about 3-4 weeks. I am going to run the winny at 50mg/day for 6 weeks. I was planning to run the fina at 75mg/EOD for that duration in order to save a few bucks.

So, my question is, if I am looking for 10-15 lbs while dropping the bodyfat by about 3%, would fina EOD be acceptable?

Yes, I do know the obvious benefits of ED injections (i.e. stabilized blood levels) but on the other hand this is my first time using fina.

Should I go EOD or take the extra step with ED injections given my goals?

 

[MUSTANG_18]

IMO you can get good results from EOD injections of Fdina but ED is the way to go for sure if you can afford it. I would also like to see a little Test added to that cycle as well

M18

 

[The Almighty]

Ya sorry, there is going to be one shot of sust in there for the first 3 weeks just to keep the labido up and running. I will also be taking a good amount of arginine. Aint taking any chances.

I would do ED injections but I am a little nervous about making my own fina. (I know, I know.)
What does everyone else think?

 

[MUSTANG_18]

Ya sorry, there is going to be one shot of sust in there for the first 3 weeks just to keep the labido up and running. I will also be taking a good amount of arginine. Aint taking any chances.

I would do ED injections but I am a little nervous about making my own fina. (I know, I know.)
What does everyone else think?

I have heard making your own Fina is not to hard at all but I am lazy so I buy mine pre-made LOL

M18

 

[Audio8]

Making fina is pretty easy actually. If you read the directions, it seems like a lot, but all your reall doing is heating, filtering, mixing, and waiting.

Also, if your going to take some sus to help your libido, take in mind that your libido typically decreases 2 weeks after your last shot. Atleast, that's what I've heard from multiple users.

 

[Riker29]

Can you really trim down fat while also adding lean mass?

I mean, even a Test-based cycle tends to require that a guy chooses to bulk OR cut .....

so ....

is it the Tren (Fina) that lets you be able to do both?

 

[zen42]

No, you don't have to inject every day. Every other day works just fine though you'll get SLIGHTLY lower results.

Good thing is you'll feel less like a pin cushion.

Zen

 

[Big Brother Val]

Riker29... I lost a considerable amount of fat on Fina, while gaining muscle. It's great.

I wrestle, and so I have to look good year round. I cannot "bulk" then "cut". I always have to do both. The gains are much slower, but more permanent. My weight isn't on a roller coaster. Shooting up 25 lbs, then losing 12, then going back up, only to lose more.

I gain slow and steady.

Almighty... I was freaked out about making the Fina too. It really wasn't that hard at all. Much easier than I thought it would be. I figured I'd just fuck it all up. Not the case. It's simple to do. You should be fine.

 

[Zyglamail]

Riker29... I lost a considerable amount of fat on Fina, while gaining muscle. It's great.

I had the same results. Fina seems to be great for bulk or mass depending on how ya eat. Eating on fina is easy for me cause it makes me hungry all the time.

 

[Busta]

I am starting the same cycle I am oing with fina 75/ed and winny 35/ed with test enanth 250/wk for "mister winkey". My question is will 35/ed of winny do anything or should I take the fina a week or two berofe the winny so I can take it 50/ed. I only have enough tabs for 35/ed and cant get more right now.

 

[j_100801]

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[j_100801]

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[The Almighty]

Riker29... I lost a considerable amount of fat on Fina, while gaining muscle. It's great.

I wrestle, and so I have to look good year round. I cannot "bulk" then "cut". I always have to do both. The gains are much slower, but more permanent. My weight isn't on a roller coaster. Shooting up 25 lbs, then losing 12, then going back up, only to lose more.

I gain slow and steady.

Val, what were your doses and results on your cycle? Also, what did your diet and training look like?

 

[freshr1]

I'm finishing off my current (2nd) cycle with fina, and it's great. I did notice a difference going from EOD to ED. This shit kicks ass , I have the premade Finiplix Gold 100mg/ml. I'm not on anything else right now, and I feel fine. I was freaked out about not having any test, but hey I still have my sex drive - no worries ladies!

 

[The Almighty]

Fresh, how are your results thus far?

 

[Big Brother Val]

Almighty... 75mgs/ED. Diet was pretty clean. Very high protein, of course. Though I could still eat 2 potpies a day, and a large pizza once a week, plus treats like ice cream here and there and gain no fat. Quite the contrary... I lost 1/2 inch on the waist. Couldn't believe it.

Overall body weight went up 7 lbs. But there was a noticeable drop in fat. So probably closer to 9.

I only trained 4 days a week.

Mon: Legs
Tues: Arms
Wed: Rest
Thurs: Shoulders/back
Fri: Chest/forearms
Sat: Rest
Sun: Rest

Not too bad. I got a lot more than I expected. I maily started 75 mgs/ed to see if it would give me gyno like Deca does. I didn't get any symptoms at all. Next round may double the dosage.

 

[M56M]

BUMP

 

[freshr1]

Fresh, how are your results thus far?

Results are great. I dont have my spreadsheet here but I got more out of a few weeks of just fina than I did out of 10 weeks of eq/prop. I feel harder have more definition and more muscle. Just a bit of fat loss, but my diet has been more of a bulking one.

I'll post pix next week when I'm out of fina - nooooo!

 

[Burgboy]

I have heard only good things about fina......guy at my gym is taking 75mg ED....Jesus christ did he get strong......I mean like a hundred pounds on his bench.......did fina/test stack......That fina must really kick ass!

 

[Audio8]

ash,
just for clarification, a sterile environment does not exist for practical purposes, unless your in a vacuum. Not even a lab is 100% sterile. I think alot of guys here would agree with me that they feel more comfortable making fina themselves then buying it pre-made by some third party, unless you don't have the time/desire to make it yourself. If you get a kit and follow all the directions verbatum (including sterilization techniques), your juice will be fine and you won't need to worry if you fucked up the concentrations.

 

[big4rt]

dig it, audio!

 

[The Almighty]

If you get a kit and follow all the directions verbatum (including sterilization techniques), your juice will be fine and you won't need to worry if you fucked up the concentrations.

Well, you convinced me. Just ordered A's kit and a cart of component T-H. 75mg/ED it is!

 

[Kahn]

What are you guys doing for the hairloss? My guy never answered my question when I asked him. I understand its not a DHT kind of hairloss, its the androgens. I've got 54c's and I'm itchin to climb in.

 

[The Almighty]

What are you guys doing for the hairloss? My guy never answered my question when I asked him. I understand its not a DHT kind of hairloss, its the androgens. I've got 54c's and I'm itchin to climb in.

Im 20 so I dont worry about that stuff hehe.

 

[jellyman01]

i am on 100mgs/day of fina....sust 600 weeks 1-10...fina 100mgs/day weeks 7-12....i am 2 and 1/2 week into fina...strength is unreal...bench before fina was 340 max now is 370 and i can do 225 23 times now before 17....fina is hardening me up as well...my buddy is on 75 mgs EOD weeks 1-6 alone...3rd week now and he is up 11lbs and bench is up 30 lbs as well...eod is ok if ya cant afford ed

 

[Kahn]

Almighty, I understand your disregard for the hair. I can see that I have accelerated mine by about 15 yrs. I'm hovering at 36 now. If you want hair at 30, you might want to pay attention to the details. Nobody told me shit when I was 20. Not that I'd have listened either, but I am now. I hear a topical anti-androgen is mildly effective at best and that is all I hear about.

 

[The Almighty]

Almighty, I understand your disregard for the hair. I can see that I have accelerated mine by about 15 yrs. I'm hovering at 36 now. If you want hair at 30, you might want to pay attention to the details. Nobody told me shit when I was 20. Not that I'd have listened either, but I am now. I hear a topical anti-androgen is mildly effective at best and that is all I hear about.

Thanks for the heads-up dude. Didnt mean to be a smartass, but you know how us kids are these days.

If it will be a problem, then I would also be interested in some other remedies. Anyone have any ideas?

 

[Kahn]

I didn't take it as smartass, no prob. I was the original fukin idiot that had to do everything the hard way and double check it to be sure, so its not just the kids today. This is the only place I can come for info. I think I am the only guy in Northern Michigan playing with these toys. I'm not bald yet but the tren was good shit and I lost a lot so I want to have a preventative measure at hand if I can. I had spirolactone recomended as the mildly effective topical(FYI).

 

[M56M]

I didn't take it as smartass, no prob. I was the original fukin idiot that had to do everything the hard way and double check it to be sure, so its not just the kids today. This is the only place I can come for info. I think I am the only guy in Northern Michigan playing with these toys. I'm not bald yet but the tren was good shit and I lost a lot so I want to have a preventative measure at hand if I can. I had spirolactone recomended as the mildly effective topical(FYI).

Are you saying you lost hair on Fina? Please tell me thats not what you are saying bro...

M56M

 

[Kahn]

Hmm, sorry I can't help more but I have a chemical wizard making parabolan for me and it raped my scalp. I do not know if it is the same chemical floating around as the fina. He just told me nothing stops hairloss with tren because it causes baldness before it is 5 alpha reduced(which is where propecia works). I'm not bald but I bet I lost three yrs of hair in three weeks, big ass wads and clumps, drain cloggin hunks of hair, so much hair my wife thought I shaved my hair. Cause me to wear a hat kind of hairloss. I'm just kidding but it was noticeable. Fuck it, I figure I could have saved my hair and been decent sized or I could lose the hair a little earlier and have what I would have never had naturally. A fair trade in my mind. Choose wisely young Skywalker

 

[M56M]

Hmm, sorry I can't help more but I have a chemical wizard making parabolan for me and it raped my scalp. I do not know if it is the same chemical floating around as the fina. He just told me nothing stops hairloss with tren because it causes baldness before it is 5 alpha reduced(which is where propecia works). I'm not bald but I bet I lost three yrs of hair in three weeks, big ass wads and clumps, drain cloggin hunks of hair, so much hair my wife thought I shaved my hair. Cause me to wear a hat kind of hairloss. I'm just kidding but it was noticeable. Fuck it, I figure I could have saved my hair and been decent sized or I could lose the hair a little earlier and have what I would have never had naturally. A fair trade in my mind. Choose wisely young Skywalker

LOL...thanks for the heads up buddy. True, to be where you never thought possible is a GREAT thought. SO LETS GROW!!!

M56M