fighter looking for strength

[bloodworks]

i am a mma fighter and I am looking to run a cycle for the first time

I am 22 5'8" 150lbs and slim body type. I compete at 145 so I am lloking for something that will increase strength but not pack on the pounds. I also do a lot of cardio but do train heavy. What should I run for a first cycle?

 

[lardo5150]

Warning, you will most likely get responses like, wait till you are 25, eat more, workout a little more and make sure you diet and training is fine tuned, which is what I would say, but I will bumped it to see what everyone else says.

 

[Zyglamail]

Tren is generally pretty good for strength without a lot of mass but you are going to likely find that the pumps and other sides from AAS use may interfere with your mma training, especially in the endurance area.

 

[bloodworks]

so basically there is nothing that will fit what I am looking for?

 

[LftHndPwrHouse]

ANAVAR...lots and lots of ANAVAR!!!

 

[mookie]

I used var for boxing many of times great results. Use 30-40-mg's I use to fight at lightweight so I had to watch my weight also.

 

[black sheep]

Tren!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Zircon]

Low dose Halo, tren, low dose test E (max 150mg p/w), low dose eq.

I'd go short cycles low dose with prop/tren/halo...should be fun to watch lol. Nah, if you do low dose shoudl be fine. 3 weeks.

 

[Bozwell]

IMHO
Var for streanth and get some halo to use the week before the fight(youll kill him)
get some milk thistle for youre liver
good luck

 

[1badgerman]

Definatly (hallo And Tren )! Like Bozwell Said You'll Kill Him , And Maybe The Reff. Too. Lol

 

[the_game]

EQ and anavar.

 

[Bruce]

eq and anavar i second, the eq is gonna give you more endurance, my rugby friends swear, the var is gonna give you strength without weight gain, furthermore var will curb your appetite. if you are worried eq will make you too hungry then i would use var at a high dose and get insane strength gains without gaining weight. 40mg ed minimum you can go all the way up to 75mg ed, at that high dose i know people who's strength gains were comparable to anadrol except they kept it all.

 

[marshallmadman]

Yep, Anavar is great. A lot of fighters that train MMA here in eastern Iowa, are buggin' me for Winny, but I keep steering them toward Var. If you ever get drug tested, it's out of your system much quicker.

 

[little chris]

eq and anavar i second, the eq is gonna give you more endurance, my rugby friends swear, the var is gonna give you strength without weight gain, furthermore var will curb your appetite. if you are worried eq will make you too hungry then i would use var at a high dose and get insane strength gains without gaining weight. 40mg ed minimum you can go all the way up to 75mg ed, at that high dose i know people who's strength gains were comparable to anadrol except they kept it all.

Surprised you didn't recommend tbol

 

[ippon1]

Stick with Var or tbol because if you are any good you will eventually get in a show that will test you. Tren stays in your system too long. I train NHB fighters and have had guys turn down UFC fights because they could get tested. If they were on var or tbol they could just stop 3 weeks out and pass the drug test.

 

[Bruce]

i left out tbol cause it made me very hungry otherwise i recc it over any oral. i was using it to bulk, i know var curbs appetite and gives little mass gains, furthermore i left out that var actually strengthens tendons and joints, i do not know of tbol doing that though it gave no joint pain, but yes tbol if not var, no winny trust me your joints will thank you, these fighters taking winny are nuts

 

[karachi183]

Deca!

 

[Big Rick Rock]

There really isn't much Steroids will do for you as a fighter. If you are 150lbs naturally then you are only cutting 5lbs to make weigh, so it is not like you can take them to stay strong while cutting weigh like a lot of guys.


Stay away from steroids. Get on a good weigh training regimen and you'll be fine.... You will also find some Anabolics will be counter productive and hurt your performance. Fina use to fuck up my Cardio Stamina. I has shortness of breath while trainign and didn't feel 100% 2-3 days after the shot. D-bol gave me pumps that were almost painful and kinda fucked with my flexibility.

Also... If you put some stuff like DECA in your body today, and you got lucky enough to earn yourself a shot at one of the bigger shows like UFC and KOTC . You will test Dirty for DECA up to 18 months from your last injection.

It would really suck to get that call to be a last minute replacement knowing you will test Dirty....


-BRR

 

[Bruce]

There really isn't much Steroids will do for you as a fighter. If you are 150lbs naturally then you are only cutting 5lbs to make weigh, so it is not like you can take them to stay strong while cutting weigh like a lot of guys.


Stay away from steroids. Get on a good weigh training regimen and you'll be fine.... You will also find some Anabolics will be counter productive and hurt your performance. Fina use to fuck up my Cardio Stamina. I has shortness of breath while trainign and didn't feel 100% 2-3 days after the shot. D-bol gave me pumps that were almost painful and kinda fucked with my flexibility.

Also... If you put some stuff like DECA in your body today, and you got lucky enough to earn yourself a shot at one of the bigger shows like UFC and KOTC . You will test Dirty for DECA up to 18 months from your last injection.

It would really suck to get that call to be a last minute replacement knowing you will test Dirty....


-BRR

certainly i respect your position, but A eq will give him more stamina because of the increased red blood cells, and var is gonna make him strong as hell with his tendons and joints strentghening, deca is a great choice as well cause it lubes the joints, roy jones, james toney and josh barnett the ex champ of ufc all tested posi for that. great for injured wrists or whatever, but terrible for being tested.

 

[Big Rick Rock]

certainly i respect your position, but A eq will give him more stamina because of the increased red blood cells, and var is gonna make him strong as hell with his tendons and joints strentghening, deca is a great choice as well cause it lubes the joints, roy jones, james toney and josh barnett the ex champ of ufc all tested posi for that. great for injured wrists or whatever, but terrible for being tested.

Yes, Deca will help with recovery. But you'll fail the test everytime. So what is the point?


BTW- EQ will help to increase your satmina chemically... What will make you or break you is: 1-Cardio Training. 2- Learning how to breathe with your strikes or moves. 3-Learning to pace yourself. 4-Learning to rest while making the other guy work.

Until you can do all of those really well. You should not be looking into EQ for stamina.


-BRR

 

[Bruce]

you make very valid points. i was just trying to tell him that my rugby friends do use it for that purpose. no doubt on the deca testing, but if he is gonna juice anyway i think var eq is the way for him to go. k to you bigrick

 

[faaassst]

certainly i respect your position, but A eq will give him more stamina because of the increased red blood cells, and var is gonna make him strong as hell with his tendons and joints strentghening, deca is a great choice as well cause it lubes the joints, roy jones, james toney and josh barnett the ex champ of ufc all tested posi for that. great for injured wrists or whatever, but terrible for being tested.

When did Roy Jones and James Toney test positive for any drug???

 

[sledhead09]

EQ & Var

 

[Bruce]

When did Roy Jones and James Toney test positive for any drug???

roy jones jr. positive before his fight with richard hall, hall tested positive as well, and jones claimed that the nandrolone was in ripped fuel which he had used for training. with roy's power in the fighting community it was kept under the table quite well, just google it u can find it. toney is well known bro, stripped of the belt he won from ruiz a few months back

 

[Big Rick Rock]

Seems like the days of testing positive are long over.

I guy I know just put out a product that will clear any Steroids out of your system in 5 days... It doesn't mask AAS, it actually removes any trace of them from your system... I'm curious to see if his claims are true.


-BRR