Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below This will be my second time running Ox and my second cycle is going much different than my first one did. First time ran it with HcGen/Sr/GW for 6 weeks @ 2 caps before bumping to 3 caps during week 3 which virtually zero sides. This time I tried a more aggressive approach and bumped to 3 caps at the beginning of week 2 and things have not gone well. I'm feeling super lethargic to the point where I'm considering scraping the cycle. I've also had stomach pains and a bit of nausea at times. Is it possible that I was not fully recovered? I bridged the two cycles with an 8 week sarms triple stack. Unfortunately I do not have blood work and getting bloods done mid cycle does not seem to be a worthwhile idea to me.
Feel terrible on oxandrovar
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try going down to 2 caps again and see how you feel.This stuff is strong bro! all of these products can produce bad side effects if you over do it for yourself.
STTM
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You just hit it too hard from the get go. Lethargy can be caused by a few different things, but it is not all bad. Most high anabolic compounds cause a bit of it. It means you are growing. This is also why many people recommend a Test base with all cycles. They make topical DHEA products that will serve well for this purpose.
I would drop your dose back down to what you did the first time. Make sure you are taking cycle supports, and extra liver support. Also drink plenty of water.
I would drop your dose back down to what you did the first time. Make sure you are taking cycle supports, and extra liver support. Also drink plenty of water.
Lethargy is pretty common with orals, especially at higher doses. A test base helps, but lowering the dose is probably your best option. These PHs are strong as hell, so they are not to be taken lightly. A little bit goes a long way, and just 2 caps per day is very powerful
steve summed it all up... you got greedy and this is the outcome... when you take shortcuts and don't do things properly or go for too much, then this is what you get... you need to drop back down at 2 caps a day and move forward with that... you have built up too much toxicity and you have shut yourself down and didn't allow for proper recovery... these are all simple answers that are easy to see... i hope you learned from this and see why the time on = time off protocol is always recommended... do things properly and you won't have these issues bro... everyone gets greedy, its just the nature of the game, but hopefully you learned and just move on... here is a strong pct for you because your definitely going to need it... you need to get bloodwork as well...
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Big Rick Rock
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Bro - no reason to take more than 2 caps per day.
Did you take off 4-8 weeks in between runs?
Are you still taking N2 Guard?
Like everybody above said - you got greedy and took too much too fast. Just stop the cycle bro and try again after a loooong break of feeling well.
I know exactly what you mean! When I bumped up to 3 caps of dianabulk, I felt the same way! 2 caps was perfect for me.
No need to go overboard with it! But of you want to try 3 caps still, incoperate a carb shake or meal when you take 2 caps!
I popped 1 am and 2 preworkout like that with a shake and it wasn't to bad! I just ran out of my bottle quicker lol so I switched back to 2 caps
No need to go overboard with it! But of you want to try 3 caps still, incoperate a carb shake or meal when you take 2 caps!
I popped 1 am and 2 preworkout like that with a shake and it wasn't to bad! I just ran out of my bottle quicker lol so I switched back to 2 caps
2 caps per day of Oxandrovar is still stronger than most orals out there
I completely agree. I wish it was a 120 caps at half the doses so we could work up in smaller increments.
Or 90 cap bottle for like $150 or something. Solid 6 week cycle at 2 caps a day. I bought 2 bottles for my first run of Oxandrovar because 4 weeks isn't enough so I've been tempted to go higher than 2 caps a day at some point because otherwise I'll be left with half a bottle at the end of 6 weeks.
steveff
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I'm on 2 caps per day and feel great. I have a log going. Urine is crystal clear and I have no side effects other than shorter patience. I just get mad about things quicker. Nothing out of control though. I consciously realize it and control it.
I would really like to try 3 caps of this stuff and I'm pretty bummed that you had such an adverse reaction to it. Hopefully if I bump my dosage I don't get those sides.
I would really like to try 3 caps of this stuff and I'm pretty bummed that you had such an adverse reaction to it. Hopefully if I bump my dosage I don't get those sides.
Everything affects people differently so you may be fine at 3 caps. I don't see an issue with you going to that dose. If the side effects get too much you can always lower the dose
My first time running it I worked up to 3 caps and was fine...just think I jumped up too quickly this time.
Update: Down to 1 cap a day and still feeling a bit lethargic...it's better than it was but still noticeable. Would it be too late to add transaderm to give me a best base? Ihave some on hand.
Update: Down to 1 cap a day and still feeling a bit lethargic...it's better than it was but still noticeable. Would it be too late to add transaderm to give me a best base? Ihave some on hand.
you can definitely add it and it will definitely help bro... transaderm is always a good thing to use to keep lethargy at bay... 5 pumps a day after a shower in the morning... do not run transaderm in pct though...
You can definitely add Transaderm to your cycle. It works very well and I highly recommend it as a test base
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no, throw the transaderm in there asap.Remember its part of the cycle and should not be ran throughout pct good friend.
Francofranco
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Bro ox is strong as it gets, understand this, but without gw/s4( please everyone take notes sarms are legit and one of the best additions to a cycle) you're taking in the full aspects of ox! Lol it's a bull!! What your experiencing is common and for me 1-2 caps a day is the limit! Does it work, hell yea better than most and in only 4-6 weeks but the point I'm making is don't ever underestimate the "bull."
^I have been preaching this for a while. DO NOT jump the gun on 3 caps. I stayed at 2 and I blew up. I actually bulked with an obnoxious caloric intake. I was running 2 caps per day and got back to PRs and even surpassed some.
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You just have to remember that there is more anabolic compounds in 2 caps of Oxandrovar than most people realize. You are talking about 4 very powerful anabolic hormones per cap!! 2 caps goes a long way
Plus not to mention, its not a cheap ph.If 2 caps is working fine, no reason to push the envelope.
Split the dose 8-12 hours apart (2 caps first dose 1 cap second dose) and yes N2guard will cover you
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Oxandrovar is an ox bro. I ran my first cycle at 2 caps a day and never cranked it up. I almost always crank it up too! I had that lethargy you speak of though the gw from sarms 1 and n2guard from n2bm helped. I also ran aromasin from ag-guys as my ai but this stuff is a very powerful oral. People get their panties in a bunch when you compare legal PHs to steroids but PH is just a nice way of saying "legal steroid." Some PHs have been banned and once studied by labs, it emerges that some are more powerful than illegal juices. I think Oxandrovar is so flexible. You can run it as a bulking kicker, you can throw it in a recomp, you can stack with test and sarms like osta or lgd, there are a lot of possibilities.
In your case, you figured you handled the 3 caps toward the tail end of your last cycle so this cycle you should be able to come out of the gate at 3 (or at least tapered up to 3 very briskly). This is not the case when you have given yourself very little time to rebound. Your body is still recuperating from the last run and then you threw something heavier at it. Steve always says to add the cycle and the PCT together. After they're finished, take the same amount of time off to recover (unless you want to cruise on test).
In your case, you figured you handled the 3 caps toward the tail end of your last cycle so this cycle you should be able to come out of the gate at 3 (or at least tapered up to 3 very briskly). This is not the case when you have given yourself very little time to rebound. Your body is still recuperating from the last run and then you threw something heavier at it. Steve always says to add the cycle and the PCT together. After they're finished, take the same amount of time off to recover (unless you want to cruise on test).
Absolutely. People don't realize just how powerful Oxandrovar and the GK lineup is. Don't underestimate what these great products can do
if you got sick dont ever go to over 2 caps again! simple and plain, it is not needed.Maybe those that got extreme tolerance might get away but alot of people are getting sick off 3 & 4 caps.Dont do it!
also add alittle more space inbetween dosage, if you make it upto 2 caps make sure you have 12 hours inbetween dosage also
also add alittle more space inbetween dosage, if you make it upto 2 caps make sure you have 12 hours inbetween dosage also
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