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FAT LOSS drugs ... I ranked all of them
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Big Johnson
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I didn't see arimidex listed...
my opinions....because I get ripped when I diet..
combo cynomel and salbutamol or clen.....5 stars
ripped fuel or any of those...4 stars
pgf2a...over rated....does shit..Not for women
hydroxycut....garbage
xenadrine.....works welll
yohimbine hcl 5.4mg tabs 4 per day....3 stars
high protein..low carbs..modrate fat...4 stars
never used DNP, HGH,l arimidex
pyramid cynomel and clen for best results ..no more than 3 weeks
combo cynomel and salbutamol or clen.....5 stars
ripped fuel or any of those...4 stars
pgf2a...over rated....does shit..Not for women
hydroxycut....garbage
xenadrine.....works welll
yohimbine hcl 5.4mg tabs 4 per day....3 stars
high protein..low carbs..modrate fat...4 stars
never used DNP, HGH,l arimidex
pyramid cynomel and clen for best results ..no more than 3 weeks
brianharper94
New member
PGF2
How often are you guys taking PGF2? I heard that it goes through your system so quickly that you need to shoot it 5 times a day. I know of people who shoot it with insulin 4-5 times a day and get great local growth. My old training partner shot it in his delts when he shot insulin. His delts looked like they nearly doubled in size in just a matter of weeks. By the way, don't shoot it anywhere near the intestines or stomach, that is probably what is causing you guys to shit so much. It's something about them absorbing it or something like that, I don't kno, but I do know that abdominal shooting is a big no-no with PGF2.
bh
How often are you guys taking PGF2? I heard that it goes through your system so quickly that you need to shoot it 5 times a day. I know of people who shoot it with insulin 4-5 times a day and get great local growth. My old training partner shot it in his delts when he shot insulin. His delts looked like they nearly doubled in size in just a matter of weeks. By the way, don't shoot it anywhere near the intestines or stomach, that is probably what is causing you guys to shit so much. It's something about them absorbing it or something like that, I don't kno, but I do know that abdominal shooting is a big no-no with PGF2.
bh
G
Golfer18--old
Guest
Supergirl, i got just got my adipo in. After clen i will use it
More info on NYC's
More info on NYC's
Hmmm.......interesting variance among fat loss
agent users:
Here's my list
I've used pretty much every fat loss
product out there except for 2. When I mention them I will
rate them according to my friends experiences with them.)
Ratings: From * star to ***** stars
1. ECA(Thats the Pharm. version NOT all the herbal
variants) ***
w/ Ketotifen at 2mg/day ****
2. Clenbuterol **
w/ Ketotifen at 6mg/day ****
3. T3 by itself: ZERO stars.
T3+steroids: ***
4. NON-aromatizing anabolic agents: ***
(winstrol, anavar, primo, masteron)
(Since they don't aromatize this means LESS
water-retention=better vascularity=BETTER
confidence level.
REMEMBER, fat-loss is ALSO psychological.
If you look better, chances are higher you'll
keep your mindset.
And yes, Test will WORK, BUT ONLY WHEN USED
WITH arimidex NOT novaldex.
5. DNP ***** You can call it a poison, say it will kill you
but for permanent, steady, muscle-sparing fat-loss
w/o the need of ANY other agents you can't get better
than DNP. If you can't handle 400+mg/day THEN
use LESS!!! 100-200mg/day will achieve GREAT
results in the longer-term while still minimizing side
effects. You'll just have to watch your diet
better thats all.
Fact is, about 50% of people have problems in getting
below 12%(Its called homeostasis people).
DNP solves this problem quite effectively.
6. PGF2ALutalyse)
Have not used it. Scares me a bit because of
the reported sides.......
DOES it kill fat-cells???? NOBODY knows that
for sure so DON't assume it.
However, based on my observations it is like
a short-term DNP(to use an analogy).
Its half-life is VERY short and it WILL make your
body temp go through the roof(for an hour or so) and ALSO
cause hypertrophy with MINIMAL movement.
I.e. Your muscles will be VERY sensitive to weights.
Even a 20-lb dumbell will get you pumped in no time.
The only bad thing about PGF2A is that you have to inject
like 3-5+ times daily which sucks.....
Still: **** maybe ***** if they come out with a LONGER-acting
version of the prostaglandin in question. Maybe 1X/day
injections? (I wish...LOL)
7. HgH(Have it, but haven't used it yet) Pointless to use for
fat loss UNLESS HgH deficient or 28+ years old. HgH
levels decline severely from 19-28.
Dosage: Varies GREATLY
#. Some people swear by only 2IU's/day while some
other people say AT ELAST 4.5IU's are needed
for GH to be effective.
However, lets take into consideration this is PURELY
a FAT LOSS THREAD.
So
For GROWTH, 4.5+IU's+T3+Test is needed, BUT
for FAT LOSS, GH will work quite well all
by itself.
2-3 IU's/day (AM and PM) WILL give you results.
Rating: ****
8. Phentermine(Ionamine). Basically a STRONGER
ECA. Less effective because it can be slightly
addictive...... ***
9. Yohimbine HCL(Topical)
GREAT for spot reduction w/ the inclusion of a transdermal
carrier.
Dosage: 60-120mgs/day
Rating: ****
For women: *****
YOH HCL works wonders for women.
And the FORGOTTEN ONES:
1. Fenfluramine(Pondimin)
# Not a thermogenic BUT the only CNS depressing
anorectic known to be sold. Will decrease your
hunger like ECA except it will let you sleep.
And we all KNOW, what night-time hunger pangs are
........LOL This is where Pondimin works wonders.
Rating: ***** Not even GHB can beat it.
GHB btw: ****(Sleep aid AND GH releaser)
2. ALA(Alpha-lipoic acid)
Not very well known , BUT increases glucose transport
from food consumed into the MYOCYTES. This makes
it a NUTRIENT PARTITIONING AGENT. i.e. More fat-loss,
less muscle-loss.
Rating: ***
3. Phenformin and Metformin:
Increase amount of glucose stored. Basically the same
as ALA EXCEPT they reduce gastric emptying therefore
making you feel fuller for longer. Less of a nutrient
partioning effect than ALA though.....
Rating: **
ALA+Metformin gets: ****
Synephrine, Citrimax(HCA), Forskholi, Triax all get
no stars. They just plain SUCK.
There are more, but they aren't purely for fat-loss
purposes. I'll try to add them on later on in the week when
my athlete's foot gets better......hard to type because it
itches A LOT.
Godspeed
agent users:
Here's my list
I've used pretty much every fat lossproduct out there except for 2. When I mention them I will
rate them according to my friends experiences with them.)
Ratings: From * star to ***** stars
1. ECA(Thats the Pharm. version NOT all the herbal
variants) ***
w/ Ketotifen at 2mg/day ****
2. Clenbuterol **
w/ Ketotifen at 6mg/day ****
3. T3 by itself: ZERO stars.
T3+steroids: ***
4. NON-aromatizing anabolic agents: ***
(winstrol, anavar, primo, masteron)
(Since they don't aromatize this means LESS
water-retention=better vascularity=BETTER
confidence level.
REMEMBER, fat-loss is ALSO psychological.
If you look better, chances are higher you'll
keep your mindset.
And yes, Test will WORK, BUT ONLY WHEN USED
WITH arimidex NOT novaldex.
5. DNP ***** You can call it a poison, say it will kill you
but for permanent, steady, muscle-sparing fat-loss
w/o the need of ANY other agents you can't get better
than DNP. If you can't handle 400+mg/day THEN
use LESS!!! 100-200mg/day will achieve GREAT
results in the longer-term while still minimizing side
effects. You'll just have to watch your diet
better thats all.
Fact is, about 50% of people have problems in getting
below 12%(Its called homeostasis people).
DNP solves this problem quite effectively.
6. PGF2A
Lutalyse)Have not used it. Scares me a bit because of
the reported sides.......
DOES it kill fat-cells???? NOBODY knows that
for sure so DON't assume it.
However, based on my observations it is like
a short-term DNP(to use an analogy).
Its half-life is VERY short and it WILL make your
body temp go through the roof(for an hour or so) and ALSO
cause hypertrophy with MINIMAL movement.
I.e. Your muscles will be VERY sensitive to weights.
Even a 20-lb dumbell will get you pumped in no time.
The only bad thing about PGF2A is that you have to inject
like 3-5+ times daily which sucks.....
Still: **** maybe ***** if they come out with a LONGER-acting
version of the prostaglandin in question. Maybe 1X/day
injections? (I wish...LOL)
7. HgH(Have it, but haven't used it yet) Pointless to use for
fat loss UNLESS HgH deficient or 28+ years old. HgH
levels decline severely from 19-28.
Dosage: Varies GREATLY
#. Some people swear by only 2IU's/day while some
other people say AT ELAST 4.5IU's are needed
for GH to be effective.
However, lets take into consideration this is PURELY
a FAT LOSS THREAD.
So
For GROWTH, 4.5+IU's+T3+Test is needed, BUT
for FAT LOSS, GH will work quite well all
by itself.
2-3 IU's/day (AM and PM) WILL give you results.
Rating: ****
8. Phentermine(Ionamine). Basically a STRONGER
ECA. Less effective because it can be slightly
addictive...... ***
9. Yohimbine HCL(Topical)
GREAT for spot reduction w/ the inclusion of a transdermal
carrier.
Dosage: 60-120mgs/day
Rating: ****
For women: *****
YOH HCL works wonders for women.
And the FORGOTTEN ONES:
1. Fenfluramine(Pondimin)
# Not a thermogenic BUT the only CNS depressing
anorectic known to be sold. Will decrease your
hunger like ECA except it will let you sleep.
And we all KNOW, what night-time hunger pangs are
........LOL This is where Pondimin works wonders.
Rating: ***** Not even GHB can beat it.
GHB btw: ****(Sleep aid AND GH releaser)
2. ALA(Alpha-lipoic acid)
Not very well known , BUT increases glucose transport
from food consumed into the MYOCYTES. This makes
it a NUTRIENT PARTITIONING AGENT. i.e. More fat-loss,
less muscle-loss.
Rating: ***
3. Phenformin and Metformin:
Increase amount of glucose stored. Basically the same
as ALA EXCEPT they reduce gastric emptying therefore
making you feel fuller for longer. Less of a nutrient
partioning effect than ALA though.....
Rating: **
ALA+Metformin gets: ****
Synephrine, Citrimax(HCA), Forskholi, Triax all get
no stars. They just plain SUCK.
There are more, but they aren't purely for fat-loss
purposes. I'll try to add them on later on in the week when
my athlete's foot gets better......hard to type because it
itches A LOT.
Godspeed
Buld0g
New member
Godspeed...very nice post brother. That's the kind of feed back that these boards need. Just straight up personal experiences with drugs. You made some interesting points.
Question...what is Fenfluramine(Pondimin). Also, is it Rx or a supplement. And where can I get it. I can use some decreaseing effects on my hunger without the thermogenic effects along with limp dick.
Question...what is Fenfluramine(Pondimin). Also, is it Rx or a supplement. And where can I get it. I can use some decreaseing effects on my hunger without the thermogenic effects along with limp dick.
ultragainz
New member
iam thinking of hitting pfg at 2 weeks on 1 week off...repeat
