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It seems like it would only be beneficial to replace some of the fat with preworkout carbs. Weight-training requires glucose, so there must be some source of glucose in the diet above just the brain's requirements. If this is not supplied, there will necessarily be muscle loss.

It wouldn't limit fat-loss at all, so why not just turn it into a very low calorie TKD?
 
I actually thought about trying that. Like the meal before lifting cut out the fat and replace with about 30g of carbs and possibly adding 30g of carbs in with post workout drink. And then keeping everything else the same. Im not sure yet but thats a lot of what I was thinking about.
 
solidj55 said:
I actually thought about trying that. Like the meal before lifting cut out the fat and replace with about 30g of carbs and possibly adding 30g of carbs in with post workout drink. And then keeping everything else the same. Im not sure yet but thats a lot of what I was thinking about.

I think if you want to make sure you stay in ketosis after the workout, pre-workout carbs would be your best bet. 60g seems like too much to me. If I do I'm going to do about 25g or less pre and during workout. There's really no point in replenishing muscle glycogen after the workout. Your daily activities and/or cardio will drain it anyway. Also, one reason keto diets burn so much fat is that glycogen stores are so low during the day. Check out Mr. X's timed glucose meter measurements on his TKD: http://www.elitefitness.com/articledata/mrx/tkdmrx.html

What's everyone's experience with TKDs and pre/post/during workout carbs? I only have experience with CKDs, so I'm just making conjectures.
 
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