Failed Hard Tren Crash - Any help appreciated

[Thisguy112]

I ran a short tren cycle a little over a year ago. At this time I am still shut down and it is driving me crazy. I unfortunately did not do a PCT right away, 2 months later I did HCG, Nolva and Clomid. My levels increased from 170s to about 700 but then slowly have come back down to 300 hundred. I have read some posts on here with others having a similar issue. What can I do to get this recovery finally behind me.

Current labs are:

LH 2.2
FSH 2.3
T 304 Free T 9.7
SHBG 13.7
E 25

Ideas?

 

[stevesmi]

what are your full stats?

define 'short tren cycle' .. how long was it? how much did u take?

did u run caber/prami?

 

[Thisguy112]

I am 31 years old, 230 lbs eat clean most of the time. cycle was originally 8 weeks, stopped at 4 weeks 75mg MWF. No caber or primi. Last lab with prolactin was normal although I can look at the results tomorrow to be sure

 

[LetsGrow]

Nolva was a big mistake and cold us be adding to the problem. Even after 2 months there are still trace amounts of compound in your system, if it was tren e then you can be sure you still had some in your system. Nolva does not play well with compounds like deca and tren. Unfortunately you pct too late and are now trying to recover. Going to be tough.


"you will never be happy with your results, but that shouldn't deter you from trying to obtain your goals"

~Me

 

[joeblow12345]

You basically cycled long enough to suppress yourself, and didnt do anything to fix it. You can try and run a good pct. Do you have any caber? Id add that in my pct as well. This is why I tell people not to play with these drugs. It can have longterm consequences. Leave out the nolva this time. Id run
1-4 Clomid 25 mg day
1-4 postcycle/ unleashed combo
1-4 caber 0.5 mg every 3 day
1-4 forma


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[Thisguy112]

Cant seem to find Post cycle unleashed

 

[Thisguy112]

Would you reccomend adding HCG

 

[stevesmi]

what is your height/weight/body fat? yes this makes a difference. if you are overweight and out of shape then recovery will be harder.

what did u run with the tren? was it ace or E? why did u stop it at 4 weeks?

also besides your bloods what else is going on with you that you feel not recovered? lets take each thing and figure out what is wrong before we freak out.. cause really part of recovery is mental.

in the mean time I want you to buy some prami and have that on hand immediately.. there is a sale right now at greatwhitepeptides so its dirt cheap. next I am probably gonna want to put you on another pct, but a longer version then what was given to you above. be prepared to buy some HMG as well

 

[Thisguy112]

It was tren ace

225/6'1"/29.7bmi

I stopped at four weeks because I then (a Little late) started doing some research and realized I needed to know more before cycling.

Outside of bloodwork i suffering from ED. Levitra helps but it's annoying to have to plan that way. I'm also a bit tired lately but I wouldn't say anymore than before. I was really overweight 2 years ago and lost over 100lbs.

 

[stevesmi]

^^^^ so your only issue you are dealing with is ED? what about libido? how is your strength in the gym?

 

[Thisguy112]

My lib comes and goes. I can typically wake up so to speak but cannot sustain with out meds.

Strength at gym is marginal at best. Been stuck at same weight lift for a while now. Gains are very slow coming.

 

[stevesmi]

sounds to me like you've got one helluva a problem.

what were your bloods like BEFORE tren. i have a sneaky suspician they were low all along. you said you used to be fat so that definately will effect test levels

i am finding it hard to believe that running tren for 4 weeks a year ago is still having an effect on you today.

I would grab a bottle of hcgenerate and run a bottle until its gone to get those nuts nice and plump. that will help and its naturally. i would stay away from everything else right now including ED drugs.

 

[Thisguy112]

That's my other stupidity, I did not get labs prior to tren. I agree that before I was probably low due to my weight issue. But I did not have any problems with ED for sure then. What could be the cause of that now versus before?

 

[Thisguy112]

Should I still pickup the prami?

 

[zwhit]

i am finding it hard to believe that running tren for 4 weeks a year ago is still having an effect on you today.

exactly. you should have recovered from that "cycle" easily by now.

you've got other problems. go see a doc

 

[stevesmi]

Should I still pickup the prami?

the prami will help knock down your prolactin which will definately increase your libido.

you could run a low dose along with the hcgenerate. and then see what happens.

I really think a lot of your issues are in your head, part of recovery is in the mind as well. i assure you running 4 weeks of tren 1 year ago is not gonna have any effect on where you are today. if you beleive otherwise then you are just gonna keep digging a hole for yourself.

 

[Thisguy112]

My last prolactin level in January was at 5.7 on a 4-15.2 scale, the general rule is closer to 0 better or is that wrong?

 

[Thisguy112]

Any advice on my last post? Thanks!