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F*** Ronnie Coleman

nishnish

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yeah, he's a fucking monster and he trains hard, but i'm sorry, the last three Olympias he HAS NOT been in shape as far as i am concerned.

big? yes. but also bloated. not hard at all.

if they are going to give the sandow to the freaks, let it be the one who comes in shape.

as far as i'm concerned it should be either cutler or ruhl.

i can excuse ruhl's symmetry mismatches as they are slight, especially when you consider the amazing shape he comes in for every show. plus he has a good 20 lbs on coleman! and cutler is smaller than ruhl, but looks perfect IMO.

i really hope that fat bastard gets knocked off his throne this year
 
Bodybuilding in general is a joke. It used to be based on size and aesthetics. Ronnie's physique is awful... so are most of the guys in the top 5. Until guys like Darrem Charles start placing higher, bodybuilding will be a unmarketable sport.
 
Guys, I am a huge fan of cutler and am waiting for that day he takes the crown. If there is one man who can beat ronnie today, I give it to CUTLER.
But however, with some changes in the the new judging, I still think Ronnie knows how to handle. All said and done, ronnie will still win this time.
 
Dexter Jackson this year!!!!! :Chef: :tuc:
 
Guys, hate it or love it, ronnie will pretty much win until he quits. I dont know what you guys are talking about, i think he looks awesome. yes he has a GH gut but he has such huge muscles that the gh gut doesnt looks big. I noticed that what all the "freaks" do is; if they cant get their waists narrower, they'll get the rest of their bodies bigger, to create the illusion that their waist is small. Cutler did it. And ronnie is in a league of his own IMO. I used to hate on the guy and say there are better pros that could be in his spot. but once i closely analyzed his physique and compared it to the other pros, ronnie beats them all.
 
LT3 said:
Guys, hate it or love it, ronnie will pretty much win until he quits. I dont know what you guys are talking about, i think he looks awesome. yes he has a GH gut but he has such huge muscles that the gh gut doesnt looks big. I noticed that what all the "freaks" do is; if they cant get their waists narrower, they'll get the rest of their bodies bigger, to create the illusion that their waist is small. Cutler did it. And ronnie is in a league of his own IMO. I used to hate on the guy and say there are better pros that could be in his spot. but once i closely analyzed his physique and compared it to the other pros, ronnie beats them all.

Agreed
 
NOBODY will beat coleman. he will either quit or die before someone else wins, even though nobody can compare to dexter jackson. before him there was flex. IMO coleman looks like shit next to those 2 at their best.
 
LT3 said:
Guys, hate it or love it, ronnie will pretty much win until he quits. I dont know what you guys are talking about, i think he looks awesome. yes he has a GH gut but he has such huge muscles that the gh gut doesnt looks big. I noticed that what all the "freaks" do is; if they cant get their waists narrower, they'll get the rest of their bodies bigger, to create the illusion that their waist is small. Cutler did it. And ronnie is in a league of his own IMO. I used to hate on the guy and say there are better pros that could be in his spot. but once i closely analyzed his physique and compared it to the other pros, ronnie beats them all.
You speak the truth my man
 
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jay1 said:
Why is Dexter sittin this one out ?

According to getbig.com:

Dexter Jackson - Dexter Jackson was so mad and pissed off and hurt that he got booted out of 3rd place because of the 'inaugural' challenge round, he opted to compete in the Arnold Classic and take first place, beating out Chris Cormier by 1 point. As for this years Mr. Olympia, Dexter is nowhere to be found. Why should he. He is the king of the Arnold Classic, where his physique is great. He doesn't need to be at the O. Besides, he has a big announcement to make at the Olympia from the Met-Rx booth. We are all wondering what it is?

Also, a good read as to why Lee Priest pulled out: http://www.getbig.com/news/2005-04/100605lee.htm
 
i was really hoping for cutler this year but nooooooo lets keep giving it to the pregnant guy haha. How come they don't have an age limit on mr o comps?? if i kept getting beat by someone who was 9 years older than me i'd probably off myself. :O or is arnold coming back??? (would be interesting)
 
Guys ... Ronnie was 15 pounds less then last year and looked awesome!...
Cutler was ok... but not as good as ronnie... and why the fuck did he win the freakish leg award? ... i mean... NO...

But Ronnie deserved it this year... i don't beleive he can do 9 ... but this year he worked hard and got rewarded for it...

what about GUNTHER ... man... he was looking awesome to !...
 
french tickler said:
Guys ... Ronnie was 15 pounds less then last year and looked awesome!...
Cutler was ok... but not as good as ronnie... and why the fuck did he win the freakish leg award? ... i mean... NO...

But Ronnie deserved it this year... i don't beleive he can do 9 ... but this year he worked hard and got rewarded for it...

what about GUNTHER ... man... he was looking awesome to !...

I agree Ronnie looked better this year, but I don't think his legs looked better than Jay's. I just could not get over Ronnie's nasty abs either. I talked to tripple H in the airport. He said Jay did look good in the finals, but not so much in the earlier rounds, (I only went to the finals). Gunther did look great, but his wheels were no match for Jays, Ronnie's or Gustavo's. I would watch for Gustavo if I were Jay or Ronnie. He was not as dry as he could have been, but overall he looked great.
 
smaretick said:
According to getbig.com:

Dexter Jackson - Dexter Jackson was so mad and pissed off and hurt that he got booted out of 3rd place because of the 'inaugural' challenge round, he opted to compete in the Arnold Classic and take first place, beating out Chris Cormier by 1 point. As for this years Mr. Olympia, Dexter is nowhere to be found. Why should he. He is the king of the Arnold Classic, where his physique is great. He doesn't need to be at the O. Besides, he has a big announcement to make at the Olympia from the Met-Rx booth. We are all wondering what it is?

Also, a good read as to why Lee Priest pulled out: http://www.getbig.com/news/2005-04/100605lee.htm


Whats funny is that the only reason Dexter won the Arnold is because Jay Cutler didn't compete in it.
 
Wanna see some exclusive stuff of ronnie 2 weeks before the Olympia?

www.roadtothepros.com - Look in the left column of the page.

The other 2 guys are Bill Wilmore (Super heavy) and Grigori Atoyan (heavy) - NPC athletes up for the Pro card at the Nationals next weekend.
 
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Sassy69......
Billy Wilmore is a personal friend of mine, he looks in the best shape ever, and I am excited for him this weekend. How do you like his chances for his Pro card at the Nationals this weekend?
I think its his too loose, after the last 2 years being so close, and this year he looks even beeter than last year, when there was a near riot in the stands over the placement of Cook over him.
 
i'm glad i stumbled across this post...

when i watched the '04 Olympia, i was screaming at the TV and how they judges could keep giving the pose downs to Coleman...

i thought he was a bloated hog as well... glad to see i wasn't the only one with my eyes open...
 
nishnish said:
look at post #20

You original comments were

as far as i'm concerned it should be either cutler or ruhl.

i can excuse ruhl's symmetry mismatches as they are slight, especially when you consider the amazing shape he comes in for every show. plus he has a good 20 lbs on coleman! and cutler is smaller than ruhl, but looks perfect IMO.

i really hope that fat bastard gets knocked off his throne this year


So I guess the question is are your comments still the same after the olympia or do you retract the idea that Cutler should be Olympia
 
gjohnson5 said:
You original comments were

as far as i'm concerned it should be either cutler or ruhl.

i can excuse ruhl's symmetry mismatches as they are slight, especially when you consider the amazing shape he comes in for every show. plus he has a good 20 lbs on coleman! and cutler is smaller than ruhl, but looks perfect IMO.

i really hope that fat bastard gets knocked off his throne this year


So I guess the question is are your comments still the same after the olympia or do you retract the idea that Cutler should be Olympia


this year i think coleman had it. i was mainly referring to years past when i thought jay looked better. this year there was no denying coleman

now can i be an olympia judge? purty please? ;)
 
yeah, cutler was complaining, but he doesn't bring anything to the table that ronnie can't bring (other than abs). Cutler's waist is as big, and even though his back was improve this year, c'mon now, it doesn't compare to ronnie's.

ronnie wins, and will continue to win, because he is the best big man, and that is who has won the Olympia the last 20+ years...the best big man.

there were several years where a smaller guy could've beaten Haney, I mean, Haney would come water-logged, with little rolls of fat on his lower back, but no one was even close to him in proportionate mass.

dorian was very beatable from the front, but when he turned around, it was all over, no one could compete with him in the mass department (or conditioning, for that matter). Did he have flaws? Sure, tons of 'em, but he won because he was the best big man.

Ruhl could beat Ronnie, except he isn't as good from the back. Same with Gunther, who also needs to bring up his legs.

jay will not beat ronnie unless ronnie screws up. Jay's simply not big enough. Same with Gustavo, who also has a preggo-belly. It's just not going to happen. Coleman will hold it until another beast comes along that brings something to the table that Coleman doesn't.
 
witzy2323 said:
Sassy69......
Billy Wilmore is a personal friend of mine, he looks in the best shape ever, and I am excited for him this weekend. How do you like his chances for his Pro card at the Nationals this weekend?
I think its his too loose, after the last 2 years being so close, and this year he looks even beeter than last year, when there was a near riot in the stands over the placement of Cook over him.

Obviously this year was his! Bill is a complete sweetheart and he'll actually do something w/ that pro card too!
 
Over the holiday I got a copy of Coleman's 'Cost of Redemption' DVD...and all I can say is 'HOLY SH*T'. Some of his example lifts were: 800lb squat for 2 reps; 735lb behind the back shoulder shrugs for reps; seated dumbell press with 160lb dumbells for reps. I've watched the DVD multiple times, it felt like I got a pump from watching it the first time, and continue watching it for workout motivation...for only 20 bucks, I'd highly recommend it if you enjoy 'motivational' DVDs :)

btw: according to Ronnie, he weighed ~310 during the video.
 
jokerswild said:
I know Ronnie is huge but his form in that vid sucks, and those half-reps

After watching Ronnie's Redemption video, I noticed that he does not use real strict form...basically, he doesn't lock out on his reps. He does do quite a few reps/exercise (usually at least 10+) but def doesn't lock out the weight on his reps. This may be either from preference or due to some 'mechanical' flaw (e.g., joint problems) but it's clear that this method works for him so it's hard to criticize the results.
 
smaretick said:
After watching Ronnie's Redemption video, I noticed that he does not use real strict form...basically, he doesn't lock out on his reps. He does do quite a few reps/exercise (usually at least 10+) but def doesn't lock out the weight on his reps. This may be either from preference or due to some 'mechanical' flaw (e.g., joint problems) but it's clear that this method works for him so it's hard to criticize the results.
with the kind of weights he trains with I wouldn't lock out either !
 
npcrayzor said:
with the kind of weights he trains with I wouldn't lock out either !

Agreed. He makes the relatively high reps he does look 'easy' so not locking out may be just the way he trains. It's hard to argue with the obvious success he's had :)
 
Coleman is in a league of his own... Sure I'd love to see some big white guy take the crown but until Coleman retires or I start sticking needles in my ass that's not going to happen... He'll get 10 in a row and retire as the greatest bodybuilder in the history of the world to date...
 
Hi,

I have read this trail of comments with interest. All I can say is there probaly is very few of us who wouldn't live with Ronnie's belly (which aint that bad anyway) for a body like his cos it's sure as hell better than all ours.

Arnold was always my hero, Lee Haney impressed me, Dorian Shocked me with his incredible size but after seeing Ronnie's video and his mass I was just stunned. The guy deserves his wins and good luck to him I say.
 
Just got/watched Ronnie's "On the Road" DVD which shows him working out/posing in Australia 5 days after he won the Mr. O. All I can say is
"unbelieveable"...sure his stomach looked a little distended when he wasn't sucking it in but he basically looked awesome. He worked out mostly on machines (looked like Hammer Strength machines) and all the weights were in kg. But he did do 1 arm dumbell rows with 80kg (~175 lbs) for at least 10 reps. Although he doesn't use real strict form (doesn't lock out due to joint stress) he does relatively high reps (10-20 reps).
As stated above...he's definitely the MAN!!
 
For me BB used to be all about mass but know i prefer symetry and cuts so i don't like Ronnie now.IMO Cuts is the perfect BB.What do you think about that?
 
Bor1s said:
For me BB used to be all about mass but know i prefer symetry and cuts so i don't like Ronnie now.IMO Cuts is the perfect BB.What do you think about that?

IMHO it's a combination of muscle mass, definition, and symmetry...which I think Ronnie has. Sure, you can find pro BBs with more definition, or more symmetry, but IMO Ronnie has an abundance of all 3 qualities.
 
[/QUOTE]IMHO it's a combination of muscle mass, definition, and symmetry...which I think Ronnie has. Sure, you can find pro BBs with more definition, or more symmetry, but IMO Ronnie has an abundance of all 3 qualities.
1.Aren't genetics and thickness factors too?
2.I think that Ronnie's back,thighs and ofcourse-waist are to big.
3.By Cuts i ment Jay Cutler-i think he is better in mass,definition and symetry(except for his sholders-to big).
 
I'd have loved to lived in the 70's. To me, THAT was bodybuilding. Plus all the dope and free love

Whiskey
 
smaretick said:
Bor1s said:
IMHO it's a combination of muscle mass, definition, and symmetry...which I think Ronnie has. Sure, you can find pro BBs with more definition, or more symmetry, but IMO Ronnie has an abundance of all 3 qualities.
1.Aren't genetics and thickness factors too?
2.I think that Ronnie's back,thighs and ofcourse-waist are to big.
3.By Cuts i ment Jay Cutler-i think he is better in mass,definition and symetry(except for his sholders-to big).

Cutler does his fair share of slin and growth , so genetics is kinda a cop out
The last Olympia had the "growth gut" ban and I think Coleman may have focused too much in that area... But Cutler had no abs at all in the last Mr Olympia. IMHO , this IS the reason he lost

I totally dispute smaretick's number 3 but that's me
 
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I still prefer Lee Haney's build. He didnt have that huge GH gut, his waist was super small. But was still massive ( well for the time, I think he competed around 260ish ).
 
ass_face said:
Bodybuilding in general is a joke. It used to be based on size and aesthetics. Ronnie's physique is awful... so are most of the guys in the top 5. Until guys like Darrem Charles start placing higher, bodybuilding will be a unmarketable sport.
His forehead is massive. We all know with the rules they have now, Ronniw Should win, UNless a whole revolution happend....which is shall...
 
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Everyone talks about Ronnies waist being too big, but so is Cutler's. Arnold was the man. In my opinion, nobody can compare to him. His waist was almost non-existant. Everyone talks about all these names...and granted Arnold does get his share of "the best ever" comments, but I don't think that many can touch him. Sure there are some bigger, and some leaner, but come on....overall appearance...he wins.
 
IMHO,ronnie is a freak,i aint a fan,but u have to take your hat off and admire the deication required to acheive his overall phyique,how ever i think he looks awful,arnold was/is the man,he brought bodybuidling to the attention of the public and has the best overall phyique ever IMO,even 30-40 years after anrold began no one has even come close to his phyique,and they have all these designer drugs nowadays,imagine what arnold would be like now?he would wipe the floor with coleman.bodybuilding is a joke nowadays,the 70s was the era,it was about looking good,pleasing to the eye e.c.t there is no doubt ronnie is very very big,but no one can honestly say he looks good.
 
I agree with a lot of the comments in this thread but what we need to do is attack the guidelines for judging and not the athletes. Ronnie is doing what it takes to win and killing himself in the process. Ronnie's Skull and Organs have grown so massive from GH/slin abuse that he looks like a pregnant conehead. If the IFBB discouraged this type of physique maybe we would see more aesthetically pleasing bodybuilders today at the top of the pro circuit.
 
thewinkshow said:
IMHO,ronnie is a freak,i aint a fan,but u have to take your hat off and admire the deication required to acheive his overall phyique,how ever i think he looks awful,arnold was/is the man,he brought bodybuidling to the attention of the public and has the best overall phyique ever IMO,even 30-40 years after anrold began no one has even come close to his phyique,and they have all these designer drugs nowadays,imagine what arnold would be like now?he would wipe the floor with coleman.bodybuilding is a joke nowadays,the 70s was the era,it was about looking good,pleasing to the eye e.c.t there is no doubt ronnie is very very big,but no one can honestly say he looks good.
Shad ap, arnold was on massive loads of juice, ronnie is, everyone is. Ronnie is at one point, almost perfect, when he was around 260 contest weight, I think he may have got a bit to big, sacraficed mid section for some size, but props to him.
 
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