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Explosions in london

we need a roll call from the London bros. Tuc is in Manchester so he should be OK, but there are london-based bros also and its midmorning here
 
TheOak01 said:
WTF is going on,I wake up and hear there are explosions all over london
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I'm hearing from friends that there have ben six or seven successive explosions on both busses and trains (London underground).

I can't get in touch with many of my friends / family who work in the city - phone network is constantly busy. News websites are also flooded: I did manage to get this from the bbc website:

Several people have been injured after explosions on the Underground network and a double-decker bus in London.

A police spokesman said there were "quite a large number of casualties" at Aldgate Tube Station.

And Scotland Yard confirmed one of several reports of explosions on buses in the city - in Tavistock Place - but said the cause was not yet known.

One caller to BBC Five said his friend had seen "the bus ripped open like a can of sardines and bodies everywhere".

Number 10 said it was "still unsure" whether the explosions were a terrorist attack and although casualties were reported, no further details were yet available.

Ministers are meeting to clarify the situation and the government will make a statement later, Leader of the House Geoff Hoon told the Commons.

PA also quoted union officials as saying sources had told them there had been at least one explosive device on the Underground.

British Transport Police said incidents took place at Aldgate, Edgware Road, King's Cross, Old Street and Russell Square stations.

Scotland Yard confirmed they were assisting with a "major incident" and said there were casualties.

Hospitals have said they are no longer accepting non-emergency cases, BBC Five Live reported.

The National Grid, which supplies power to the Underground, said there had been no problems with its system which could have contributed to the incidents.

'Screaming and crying'

Jacqui Head, from BBC News, who had just left King's Cross station on a Piccadilly Line train as an explosion happened, said: "Everything was normal. Suddenly there was a massive bang, the train jolted.

"There was immediately smoke everywhere and it was hot and everybody panicked. People started screaming and crying."

The train was kept in the tunnel for 20 minutes and no announcement was made to explain the delay to passengers, she added.

Liberal Democrat MP Simon Hughes, near Kings Cross, told Five Live: "My only thought in the midst of all this confusion is that after the celebration of yesterday (for the Olympic 2012 London success) for people to be evil enough - if it is the intentional causing of death and injury - and think that they can justify this in any circumstances is completely unacceptable."

London Fire Brigade said four crews were at Liverpool Street and more were on their way.

Another passenger, who had left the Tube at Fenchurch Street Station, and walked to Aldgate East, told BBC Five Live that he saw injured people.

"As I walked through the bus station I could see people lying on the ground, black, as if they'd been covered in smoke. There were about three or four people on the floor being treated."

Eyewitness Paul Woloszyn from BBC News, who was at Blackhorse Road station on the Victoria Line, said: "We were told there was a bomb at Liverpool Street station.

"I was on the Tube, and they stopped the train and told everyone to get off and evacuate the station."

He said staff had said the entire Tube network had been affected, and leaflets had been handed out with details of alternative bus routes.

Another eyewitness, Dorothy Molloy, had been on a Tube train at King's Cross and said "staff just chucked everyone out of the station".

She said staff there had not given any details, but she said two passengers she had spoken to had said they had received messages saying there had been bombs.
 
More from BBC News:

At least one person is reported to have been killed in an explosion on a bus in central London.

Witnesses said the roof of the double-decker bus was blown into the sky outside the British Medical Association, near Tavistock Place.

One told BBC News 24 the front of the building had been "splattered with blood" and said there were sheets spread on the pavement.

Police said: "There have been further reports of multiple explosions."

Witness Belinda Seabrook said: "I was on the bus in front and heard an incredible bang, I turned round and half the double decker bus was in the air.

"It was a massive explosion and there were papers and half a bus flying through the air.

"There must be a lot of people dead as all the buses were packed, they had been turning people away from the Tube stops."

Another witness said police were about to conduct controlled explosions in the area. The area has been cordoned off.

There were unconfirmed reports there were other blasts on buses in South Kensington and in Marylebone.
 
this should be fun, lots of my friends were travelling by bus and tube today :(

fingers crossed and prayers, Im sure they'll all be fine as luckily it was after rush hour....but I'm really hoping they havent got more bombs, the fuckers set the buses off just after the underground got closed knowing more commuters would be on it
 
Hang in there and my prayers are with you guys...it is such a horrible feeling...recreated 9/11 all over again......Tuc you were one of the first people I thought of!
 
thanks gg, several dead now according to eye witnesses, army have been called in


several culprits names are bing thrown around, seems as if they wanted to cause chaos rather than deaths



coincides with the G8 thing and us getting the olympics
 
G8 has something to do with it i think....olympics just happen to be there....((((HUGS))) Tuc
 
Just got home from work and saw this shit. WTF is going on?


From CNN International

Below is a minute-by-minute timeline of the multiple explosions rocking London. All times are British Standard Time.

11.35 London police chief tells Reuters news agency there are "indications of explosives" at one of the blast sites.

11.15 Police say there were at least six explosions in London.

11:15 European Union commissioner for justice and security affairs Franco Frattini tells reporters in Rome that the blasts in London are terrorist attacks.

11:10 Police say they have reports of two deaths and nine injuries at Aldgate East subway station.

11:07 All bus services have been suspended in London, news agencies report.

10.57 British Prime Minister Tony Blair will stay at the G8 summit in Scotland but says he will speak at midday.

10:47 Home Secretary Charles Clarke says multiple London blasts cause "terrible injuries."

10:46 Police report serious casualties in London explosions, but no deaths confirmed.

10:46 Witness to Britain's Sky News says second blast heard in Russell Square.

10:45 Police sources say a bomb is suspected in London bus explosion.

10:33 Police confirm at least three explosions on buses in central London.

10:25 Police confirm explosion on bus in central London in the area around Russell Square.

10:24 Scotland Yard says "multiple explosions" rock London.

10:14 News agencies report a bus has exploded in central London.

10:02 Scotland Yard says it is dealing with a "major incident."

09:53 Metronet says the entire London subway network has been shut down.

Police says incidents are reported at the Aldgate station near the Liverpool Street railway terminal, Edgware Road and King's Cross in north London, Old Street in the financial district and Russell Square in central London, near the British Museum.

09:41 London Underground reports a second explosion at a subway station in northwest London.

09:33 Witnesses say London Underground says services are suspended after "power surge."

09:27 Metronet, the subway maintenance company, says power surge has caused explosion in London tube station.

09:25 Police say "there are walking wounded" in London's financial district.

09:15 British Transport Police say a explosion is reported in London's financial district in the area near Liverpool railway station.
 
It is pretty bad down here. number of ppl are killed, injuries. They are going to shut down london city for a while.
One bomb blasted a double decker.
Lucky was not in the city when it happened.
hope everyone ok
 
Al Qaeda :worried:
 
Seeing that it's G8, and hordes of groups have a hateful attitude towards this summit (environmental, IRA, activist, militia, al qaeda, palestinian, radical fanatics, etc.) -- it's hard to say pinpoint exactly off the bat who may be behind it.

Usually these summits have riots, marches, protests along with it -- so it could merely be some rogue activists like that olympic park bomber dude.
 
man, the took KEY stations: Liverpool, Kings Cross and Edwards Road. If you are doing anything in the city chances are you will pass through one of those. FUCKERS
 
everyone I know seems ok


just spoke to a guy I know who lives there and as you can imagine he said it was chaos down there
 
This is just horrible, there are around 300,000 Australians in London each year.

London is on of my beloved cities of all. How awful it is for those people who are living there. My heart and prayers go out to those injured and families of those who are deceased. It is truly a heinous crime against humanity. The terrorists will not achieve anything and they will tarnish their religion even further. I hope most Londoners and Britons would not take it out on muslims who are mostly kind and peace loving people.
 
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I've got 3 friends in London
one's a doctor, I guess I'm not hearing from her for awhile...
they'd better be OK. Shit.
I tried calling but the mobile network's still screwed
 
this is sickining and sad......watching it on the t.v now.i'm not sure if maybe they are bombing because of al quida or because the olympics are there....but either way i feel so bad for the people there....my prayers are there for them.....
 
Terrorist group claims responsibility for London blasts

A previously unknown group has claimed responsibility for a series of bomb attacks in London during the city's morning rush hour.

The Al Jihad network in Europe has claimed responsibility for the bombings in a 200-word statement posted on the Internet and have threatened further attacks across Europe.

In the statement, the Organisation of Al Qaeda Jihad in Europe claimed responsibility and threatened further attacks in Italy, Denmark and other countries with troops in Iraq and Afghanistan.

"Heroic mujahedeens carried out a sacred attack in London, and here is Britain burning in fear, terror, and fright in the north, south, east and west," a statement said posted on the Internet, which could not be authenticated.

The group said the attacks were "in response to the massacres carried out by Britain in Iraq and Afghanistan".

"We have repeatedly warned the government and people of Britain, and we have now fulfilled our promise and have carried out a sacred military attack in Britain," it said.

"We continue to warn the governments of Denmark, Italy and all the Crusaders that they will meet the same punishment if they do not withdraw their troops from Iraq and Afghanistan."
 
Yes, all the massacres Britain committed :rolleyes:

The rest of Europe better fucking wake up. Not taking a side isn't a stance.
 
I am not really surprised by this bombing event mainly b/c while I was in London taking the tube to Central Station there were 4 bomb scares that I knew of which had been announced during a period of approx 6 months, so this had been expected for quite some time.
 
Apparently it's Al-Qaeda behind that. But at first I was wondering if someone was pissed because London was picked for the 2012 Olympic games...
 
Raina said:
I can't fathom how people can have a total disregard for life like that.
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I don't know. But their other fun activities including cutting peeps heads off on video.
 
Becoming said:
Yes, all the massacres Britain committed :rolleyes:

The rest of Europe better fucking wake up. Not taking a side isn't a stance.
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wait until bombs start going off in Germany/France/Holland, countries with HUGE muslim immigration/population. People are going to be at odds and it wont be pretty

my ex lives/works in central London\, have tried calling but cant get through. hope the bitch is alright :worried:
 
i won't be suprised if they start rounding them up in fucking cages. i wouldn't mind one fucking bit.
 
YASMINA said:
I just heard on the news that 45 people have died that they know of at this point.
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45 now??? omg it gets worse.....they must also have a missing people list like the wtc...where people were suposed to be on train or bus but werent found...this is sad....
 
My ex is in London modeling right now. Its her fucking birthday too. Her parents died when she was a child. Her foster parents were missing for a month in the Tsunami. I couldn't be more worried about her. The worst part is we haven't been talking since the split a few weeks ago...
 
To all the peeps that said they wouldnt die for freedom...you know the rest

As far as the terroristists and people who do things like this, I am going to enter hyperspace and manifest myself as a huge dragon and come down and smite you and feel all of the power of the Vajra lightning bolt ripping apart every atom of your very soul and existance. Al queda, those anarchists who are snot nosed knowitall college kids blowing things up b/c they buy into this antiamerican, antibush hate speech out there, that America and Western civilization and the G-8 are bad, stuff that people propagate, misinformation and lies that leads to them being brainwashed and thinking that blowing people up is the only way.
 
Words can't describe the loss we share with our brothers on the Isles. Hope you get it sorted out as quickly as possible and that loss of life is minimal.

To all the English EF'ers and English people worldwide, I offer my sincerest condolences.
 
glad our UK bros are OK.

I was in London two weeks ago...stayed near Fenchurch and had dinner at a pub right across from Paddington station.

Some sad shit.
 
redguru said:
Words can't describe the loss we share with our brothers on the Isles. Hope you get it sorted out as quickly as possible and that loss of life is minimal.

To all the English EF'ers and English people worldwide, I offer my sincerest condolences.
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I think you speak for all of us here in the US.
 
redguru said:
Words can't describe the loss we share with our brothers on the Isles. Hope you get it sorted out as quickly as possible and that loss of life is minimal.
To all the English EF'ers and English people worldwide, I offer my sincerest condolences.
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I think all of Canada would express the same sentiments. Our thoughts & prayers are with you.
 
So here is a blurb from MSN...

---But MSNBC TV translator Jacob Keryakes, who said that a copy of the message was later posted on a secular Web site, noted that the claim of responsibility contained an error in one of the Quranic verses it cited. That suggests that the claim may be phony, he said.

"This is not something al-Qaida would do," he said.
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WTF is he talking about? Not something al-Quida would do?
 
fucking cowards...these attacks are going to keep on coming, unfortunatly. they think we will cave to their will through force. Funny how the cnn report showed muslims cheering across the middle east :(

your day of reckoning is coming soon
 
Gambino said:
Funny how the cnn report showed muslims cheering across the middle east :(
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I love that shit too. Makes me want to pretend I am press and set a bomb off in the middle of those fuckers.
 
GoldenDelicious said:
im jumping in and saying it first, either the british or american government did it

now excuse me, i have a book to write
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Date Posted By Comment
Explosions in london 08-Jul-2005 01:22 AM Gambino fuck off

gambino, apart from the nominal "go fuck yourself", youd be an absolute fucking idiot if, after the afghanistan war, iraq war, iran wardrums, syrian wardrums and total bullshit put forth by our governments, you excluded something like what i said above.

the american government threw away 1700 US soldiers lives, wounded another 15000, and a hundred thousand odd iraqis, at the cost of maybe 2000 billion dollars....do you really, really think that they wouldnt throw away a couple hundred lives to keep the war effort up

and straight away, "it was an al qaida style attack"

what? it was a series of bombs! there are bombs going off lately in israel, iraq, indonesia, lebanon...and this one is al qaida? how did they know that? because the bombs went boom? you mean booms, as in just like thoe ones al quaida uses? omg! holeee fuck i see it all so clearly now!

dont you get upset taht your government tried bullshitting you every step of the way, spinning absolutely everything they can to keep your support for their dirty shit?

fuck me drunk some people are unreal.

HELLOOOOOO people the G8 summit is on at the moment. is the idea taht there are more than, you know, 3 terrorist groups in the world so bloody hard to get?
 
Gambino said:
Funny how the cnn report showed muslims cheering across the middle east :(

your day of reckoning is coming soon
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If the whole lot of them were mowed down by gunfire or a bomb blast, I wouldn't shed a single tear.
 
canadianhitman said:
If the whole lot of them were mowed down by gunfire or a bomb blast, I wouldn't shed a single tear.
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Yes, and we did not handle their books properly. so lets put our brave soldiers in prison...wtf, we are fighting with 2 hands tied behinds our back...

Time for some shock and awe.
 
canadianhitman said:
If the whole lot of them were mowed down by gunfire or a bomb blast, I wouldn't shed a single tear.
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i would...sad at the state of humanity.
i don't want to see anyone killed although i realize it is inevitable
i just hope it is swift
 
GoldenDelicious said:
Date Posted By Comment
Explosions in london 08-Jul-2005 01:22 AM Gambino fuck off

gambino, apart from the nominal "go fuck yourself", youd be an absolute fucking idiot if, after the afghanistan war, iraq war, iran wardrums, syrian wardrums and total bullshit put forth by our governments, you excluded something like what i said above.

the american government threw away 1700 US soldiers lives, wounded another 15000, and a hundred thousand odd iraqis, at the cost of maybe 2000 billion dollars....do you really, really think that they wouldnt throw away a couple hundred lives to keep the war effort up

and straight away, "it was an al qaida style attack"

what? it was a series of bombs! there are bombs going off lately in israel, iraq, indonesia, lebanon...and this one is al qaida? how did they know that? because the bombs went boom? you mean booms, as in just like thoe ones al quaida uses? omg! holeee fuck i see it all so clearly now!

dont you get upset taht your government tried bullshitting you every step of the way, spinning absolutely everything they can to keep your support for their dirty shit?

fuck me drunk some people are unreal.

HELLOOOOOO people the G8 summit is on at the moment. is the idea taht there are more than, you know, 3 terrorist groups in the world so bloody hard to get?
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all the american peeps and british peeps should red this no good cocksucker. dude has absolutley no compassion...get a turban, an plane ticket to damascus and join the jihad, you already share their political beliefs.
Because i am a decent fellow i will not insult your government when sydney gets terroized...we are all infiedls and you will change your story when reality hits australia
 
Gambino said:
all the american peeps and british peeps should red this no good cocksucker. dude has absolutley no compassion...get a turban, an plane ticket to damascus and join the jihad, you already share their political beliefs.
Because i am a decent fellow i will not insult your government when sydney gets terroized...we are all infiedls and you will change your story when reality hits australia
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oh fuck off

it has nothing to do with compassion, it has to do with logic

STOP and THINK before you BLAME people for what has happened.

all you know is that bombs went off, people died, and that a "previously unknown" group calling itself "secret blah blah al quaida" posting from a brand new website NEVER BEFORE USED by any legit al quaida members after any of their previous, verified attacks, has popped up claiming responsibility, and straight away, its all KILL THE MUSLIMS KILL THE MUSLIMS

wake up for Gods sake. moron.
 
Those poor people on the double-decker bus. Man...I really really feel for them.

Atleast the people in the T had a little bit of protection from the walls of the train....but the bus people were sitting in front of the bomber.
 
I'm too lazy to turn on the news.

I need the al-quada fax number to send my resumë to.
 
Yeah it's really sad. Good thing though that Bush and Blair are pretty tight now. I'm sure they'll be even moreso after this appalling fiasco.
 
First off, condolonces to those who died/injured.

Second, I think it's funny that just because a bomb fucking goes off, it's automaticly "al quada" or some other "towelheads".

I also think golder made some exellent points. Some of you need to think rather then let your emotions(Which are obviously running high at the moment) get the best of you.

In the end, what a truly fucked up world we live in.
 
Mr. Black said:
Thats some pretty fucking big feet...I bet you could do a mean curb stomping?
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I'm a tall, endomorph.
I have a felling this is leading into some kinda trap. We don't like each other enough to chit chat.
 
Raina said:
I can't fathom how people can have a total disregard for life like that.
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See Raina, that is where you got it wrong. Towl head terrorist aren't people they are rodents that are rabid and need to be exterminated just like any other rodent.
 
GoldenDelicious said:
oh fuck off

it has nothing to do with compassion, it has to do with logic

STOP and THINK before you BLAME people for what has happened.

all you know is that bombs went off, people died, and that a "previously unknown" group calling itself "secret blah blah al quaida" posting from a brand new website NEVER BEFORE USED by any legit al quaida members after any of their previous, verified attacks, has popped up claiming responsibility, and straight away, its all KILL THE MUSLIMS KILL THE MUSLIMS

wake up for Gods sake. moron.
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LOL... You have ZERO evidence that it was the UK or US govt. and you berate this guy for the evidence shown above?


Man, what the hell is wrong with you?
 
Mr. Black said:
I will admit you pissed me off that one day, but now it's water under the bridge...
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Hmmmm. Ok. :friends:
With a gun? Depends on what kind ofcourse. I'm best with a .308.
Medium to low medium with a handgun, but I'm a sniper with a bow under 30 yards. Favorite is a shot gun. Shot spread cancels out adrenaline :D
Haven't kicked anyone's face in 4 years.
 
Mr. Black said:
If you like shotguns you should try a TacStar Shotgun sometime. Loud as fuck and has quite a kick. It is pretty useless really but would be ideal for surprise guests...

tacstar_complete_rig.jpg
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That is a thing of beauty :D
 
HS Lifter said:
Someone call the ignorance police.
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So I guess blowing up innocent people for is just quite ok with you huh? When are you going to wake up and realize terrorist aren't people they are scum that needs to be wiped out.
 
You know, it took a lot for me not to lash out in this thread, but my primary thoughts about this thread was to express sorrow and offer aid and comfort to our British friends. Allow vengeance and anger to fill you later, it will do the same with me. Lets just get the injured cared for, the dead mourned and then we'll TCB.
 
yeah sorry for jacking this thread...it should totally be about the london peeps, those killed and those terroized. My heart goes out to them for whatever my heart is worth...the mayor's speech was powerful. Bascially said you peep's ain't shit, london has seen a lot worse. The German army you are not, are trains, airports, and seaports will be back open no matter how many you kill

fucking awesome
 
Gambino said:
yeah sorry for jacking this thread...it should totally be about the london peeps, those killed and those terroized. My heart goes out to them for whatever my heart is worth...the mayor's speech was powerful. Bascially said you peep's ain't shit, london has seen a lot worse. The German army you are not, are trains, airports, and seaports will be back open no matter how many you kill

fucking awesome
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You're right. I feel so bad for the families of the deceased. To be killed so pointless is just sad.
 
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We shall not flag nor fail. We shall go on to the end. We shall fight in France and on the seas and oceans; we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air. We shall defend our island whatever the cost may be; we shall fight on beaches, landing grounds, in fields, in streets and on the hills. We shall never surrender and even if, which I do not for the moment believe, this island or a large part of it were subjugated and starving, then our empire beyond the seas, armed and guarded by the British Fleet, will carry on the struggle until in God's good time the New World with all its power and might, sets forth to the liberation and rescue of the Old. .
 
AristotleBC said:
LOL... You have ZERO evidence that it was the UK or US govt. and you berate this guy for the evidence shown above?


Man, what the hell is wrong with you?
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next time i make a sardonic quip, ill let you know in advance so taht you can look up and see it going over your head

cheerios
 
GoldenDelicious said:
next time i make a sardonic quip, ill let you know in advance so taht you can look up and see it going over your head

cheerios
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I think the whole point everyone is trying to make to you is now is not the time for sardonic quips when people just died and a nation was attacked. Its significant, these things mean something to people. Why you might ask? Thats the point, that its a question that no one is going to answer for you. It comes from understanding sociology and anthropology, symbols, myths, history, life in general etc...
They are saying that you dont know these subjects or else you wouldnt have said something like that at this time, basically they are calling you dumb. See how simple it is, just trying to be your interpreter ;)
Dont get mad though, I like you bor, Im just the messenger, people are going to get mad if you say things like that, duh,
but you knew that already didnt you, that was the whole point in saying it


EDIT lol, since you read it and responded before I deleted my rant Ill put it back up

Originally Posted by GoldenDelicious people die everyday. people are dying daily in similar circumstances in afghanistan, and people here say nothing. people die daily in iraq from similar circumstances, and people say nothing. it seems to me that, according to many here, the distance between our cultures is more important than our similarity as human beings, for the deaths of those thousands of people off camera are not nearly as meaningful as the british who died yesterday, and as such, behaving solomnly for the brits and not the iraqis/afghans, to me, is vile, and i will speak of the motivating factors behind these events as i will.

people died. its sad. its terrible....but not as sad and terrible as the idea taht it will happen again, and again and again and again, until people wake the fuck up, stop letting their emotions control them, and find the root cause of what is going on around them, so that they will not be the pawns of uncaring governments, or the sheep of corporations.


are you offering, bitchboy?



No need to tell me that people die man, I see it everyday, I look at people's hearts, I look inside of the with ultrasound and actually see what their heart looks like. I know instantly if they are going to live or die based on all Ive studied, their ejection fraction they have a 50% chance of mortality in a year or the next six months, three months, week, that day and/or they are completely fucked. I know this and then I look in their eye and I know what emotions are, I know what people are thinking, what the family is thinking, I know the questions they ask, I know what its like to see a heart stop and fill up with a clot b/c it isnt beating and no one is doing cpr on it b/c its a no code. Its forever etched in my mind seeing that swirl of blood clotting in the heart and a person takes their last look around on this planet. Do you know what its like to see someone die?? You ever looked into the eyes of someone that knows they are going to die soon?
Well if you ever do and you need to comfort and care for them and alleviate their feelings of coming to their end, I hope you show a lil bit more *compassion* than you are right now.
Its about empathy, its about putting yourself in another person's shoes, fuck professional distance, its about being HUMAN for once. Sure people die everyday, but you are missing the significance of it all. You sit in your freedom and say these things b/c you have that selfish luxury and you put down people who put their lives on the line and fight for something they beleive in trying to change a shithole and track down killers that want to kill you and your family. They are real and when it happens to Australians then you might understand what the fuck we are all talking about. OH Wait, it did happen to Australians, remember Bali bombings, well what do you have to say about that?? Are you consistent in your own mind with what you say? Should they track down the people and organizations that did that and want to do it again?? If your answer is no the reason why is b/c you are not being true intellectually on all of this be it lack of understanding of how the world works, geopolitics, history, why wars are waged. The US was attacked, embassy bombings, the first WTC, they declared war on US! Not the other way around and Saddam Hussein's fingerprints were all over the first WTC attack, read up on it, Im quoting James Woolsey former CIA director, all you need to do GD is read and educate yourself on these things so you dont have to resort to being an ass in your posts crying out for someone to explain all of this to you.
Doing nothing after the first WTC, the embassy bombings in africa, the USS Cole etc... doing nothing no longer worked. Thank God we have a President that its willing to go after the evildoers and when someone you know or love is killed by these men and their idealogy, then that would be karma for you God Forbid.
You best get your ass and your head wired together
Pogue Colonel: Marine, what is that button on your body armor?
Private Joker: A peace symbol, sir.
Pogue Colonel: Where'd you get it?
Private Joker: I don't remember, sir.
Pogue Colonel: What is that you've got written on your helmet?
Private Joker: "Born to Kill", sir.
Pogue Colonel: You write "Born to Kill" on your helmet and you wear a peace button. What's that supposed to be, some kind of sick joke?
Private Joker: No, sir.
Pogue Colonel: You'd better get your head and your ass wired together, or I will take a giant shit on you.
Private Joker: Yes, sir.
Pogue Colonel: Now answer my question or you'll be standing tall before the man.
Private Joker: I think I was trying to suggest something about the duality of man, sir.
Pogue Colonel: The what?
Private Joker: The duality of man. The Jungian thing, sir.
Pogue Colonel: Whose side are you on, son?
Private Joker: Our side, sir.
Pogue Colonel: Don't you love your country?
Private Joker: Yes, sir.
Pogue Colonel: Then how about getting with the program? Why don't you jump on the team and come on in for the big win?
Private Joker: Yes, sir.
Pogue Colonel: Son, all I've ever asked of my marines is that they obey my orders as they would the word of God. We are here to help the Vietnamese, because inside every gook there is an American trying to get out. It's a hardball world, son. We've gotta keep our heads until this peace craze blows over.
Private Joker: Aye-aye, sir.

People died, are you a leader? No? What if you messed up giving the wrong medication to a person filling their prescription and they died, your action resulted in the death of a person. Do you know what that death looks like? I do, Bush does, have you stood on Ground Zero? Have you had to stand their with a bullhorn saying to a whole troubled nation what needed to be said. How would that feel having to me that one man with that responsibility. Can you fathom that?? You would have to have that responsibility of knowing your decisions will cost lives and save lives. Do you take pride in your work, do you take your job seriously? If you do then how can you sit and judge Bush and say he isnt taking it seriously? All of the people who dedicate their lives to intelligence of knowing what these murderers are planning and they take their jobs just as seriously as you do. Yet you sit in judgement, what if I sat in judgement of you misfilling a prescription, are you perfect? Do you think youve never made a mistake? Is that it?
Bush and these people believe in their heart that they are doing the right thing, what fault can you find with that. THey do the best they can given the limits of the information that is available to them, classified information. Until you have access to that classified information then dont give us this fucking bullshit that the US blew up London and killed these people. You know why, b/c you are too afraid, too scared of the truth. That these people are real, Zarqawi is alive coordinating attacks from Iraq, he is in touch with Osama Bin Laden. They are flesh and blood, pinch yourself so you know that you are real and that these people are real and they want to cut your head off. Leave your little island of insanity and venture out into the real world, go to an islamic country and see if they dont kill you b/c they think you are an infidel. You think that they stay over there, that they just stay in their lil region of the world like you do? They dont, we live in the new world, they can hop a plane and fly anywhere in the world, they have networks set up, they have islamic sympathizers like you all over the world willing to help them out. They go and they murder people, people like those killed in the world trade center attacks, people in the embassy bombings, people in Bali Nightclubs, soldiers on the USS Cole, civilians in Iraq with carbombs, soldiers fighting and dying their to hunt down these terrorists. Its all real man, cant you see that? Are you so blind with your hatred for Bush and the US and the American way of life that you dont see it and say that the US killed these people in London. Im telling you this, you are wrong. Some people dont want to take the time to explain it to you so they just call you an asshole or whatever and you like that. What Im sure you dont like is losing an argument but when you fuck up and kill someone at work then you'll know what its like to know that your action has a consequence and then you can blame Bush or the US b/c your mind was too cluttered b/c you are trying to read and study how the world works. Trying using that excuse then, until then STFU already and keep your vitriolic hate speech that the US or Great Britain killed these people, its not a sardonic quip, it represents what your soul wants to expose, that you have hate in your heart. That is not something to laugh at or for someone here to find amusing. Its perverse and sick. :rasta:
 
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Michael Moore is already busy writing the script to his next movie blaming Bush for these attacks too.

Should be in theatres by March! Woo Hoo!!!
 
luciasbrown said:
I think the whole point everyone is trying to make to you is now is not the time for sardonic quips when people just died and a nation was attacked. Its significant, these things mean something to people. Why you might ask? Thats the point, that its a question that no one is going to answer for you. It comes from understanding sociology and anthropology, symbols, myths, history, life in general etc...
They are saying that you dont know these subjects or else you wouldnt have said something like that at this time, basically they are calling you dumb. See how simple it is, just trying to be your interpreter ;)
Dont get mad though, I like you bor, Im just the messenger, people are going to get mad if you say things like that, duh,
but you knew that already didnt you, that was the whole point in saying it
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people die everyday. people are dying daily in similar circumstances in afghanistan, and people here say nothing. people die daily in iraq from similar circumstances, and people say nothing. it seems to me that, according to many here, the distance between our cultures is more important than our similarity as human beings, for the deaths of those thousands of people off camera are not nearly as meaningful as the british who died yesterday, and as such, behaving solomnly for the brits and not the iraqis/afghans, to me, is vile, and i will speak of the motivating factors behind these events as i will.

people died. its sad. its terrible....but not as sad and terrible as the idea taht it will happen again, and again and again and again, until people wake the fuck up, stop letting their emotions control them, and find the root cause of what is going on around them, so that they will not be the pawns of uncaring governments, or the sheep of corporations.

AristotleBC said:
stick your dick in one
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are you offering, bitchboy?
 
GoldenDelicious said:
people die everyday. people are dying daily in similar circumstances in afghanistan, and people here say nothing. people die daily in iraq from similar circumstances, and people say nothing. it seems to me that, according to many here, the distance between our cultures is more important than our similarity as human beings, for the deaths of those thousands of people off camera are not nearly as meaningful as the british who died yesterday, and as such, behaving solomnly for the brits and not the iraqis/afghans, to me, is vile, and i will speak of the motivating factors behind these events as i will.

people died. its sad. its terrible....but not as sad and terrible as the idea taht it will happen again, and again and again and again, until people wake the fuck up, stop letting their emotions control them, and find the root cause of what is going on around them, so that they will not be the pawns of uncaring governments, or the sheep of corporations.


are you offering, bitchboy?
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You make a valid point here fuckwit
 
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