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[JT]

Hey guys, I need some advice. I am on my third cycle. I am limited to what I can get. I plan to use Dianabol (Methandrostenolone) and stack it with either Sustenon 250 or Testosterone Enanthate. I am 5'9", 180 lbs., 35 yrs. I am looking to get up to 200 lbs. and then take Winstrol Depot to cut up. I have researched both, but I have mixed feelings about each. I need your knowledge and experience to help me decide. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.

 

[BigPsyco]

Sust and test enanth are almost identical, how heavy where your last two cycles

 

[liftsiron]

Go with the test enanth you don't have to worry about the mixed esters releasing at different times.

 

[JT]

I used Deca and Aratest during my 1st and 2nd cycles. I had minimal gains after my 2nd cycle so I am looking into trying something else. I am open to a more aggressive cycle this time.

 

[MUSTANG_18]

Sust and test enanth are almost identical, how heavy where your last two cycles

How are they indenticle ? Sust is a combination of 4 esters and Enanthate is a single ester...you may be thinking of Enanthate and Cyp which are similar

M18

 

[JT]

Mustang, what do you recommend? Do you have any cycles to suggest for me? That would be very helpful if you do. Thanks!

 

[jersey boy]

Since you are limited, although different drugs act differently with people, I would probably go with the sust for the use of multiple drugs at once. Not to mention the fact that it is somewhat more powerful.

 

[jellyman01]

go with sust 500 mgs/week weeks 1-10,dbol weeks 1-4 25mgs per week,and winny 50mgs/day weeks 5-10

 

[BigPsyco]

How are they indenticle ? Sust is a combination of 4 esters and Enanthate is a single ester...you may be thinking of Enanthate and Cyp which are similar

M18

I dont know what i was thinkin, i was talking to someone about omnadren earlier and how it now identical to sust and replied too fast, you are right it is just the single enanthate ester

 

[MUSTANG_18]

Mustang, what do you recommend? Do you have any cycles to suggest for me? That would be very helpful if you do. Thanks!

I would go with a D-Bol-Enanthate or Cyp cycle. Both are single ester Tests and only need to be injected 2 times a week and because they are only 1 ester types of Test there will be a constant hormone level. Stew Meat wrote an interesting post on this a while back

M18

 

[JT]

Okay guys, since I know what I am going to use for my third cycle, how does this look to you?

Week 1 - 250 mg Test Enan, 40 mg D-Bol
Weeks 2 & 3 - 500 mg TE, 35 mg DB
Weeks 4 & 5 - 500 mg TE, 30 mg DB
Weeks 6-9 - 500 mg TE, 50 mg Winstrol Depot 3 days/wk.
Week 10 - 250 mg Test Enan, 50 mg Winstrol 3 days/wk.
Week 11 - 100 mg Clomid
Week 12 - 50 mg Clomid

Thank you for your responses.

 

[gtaman]

That cycle looks good but the timing is a bit off (your first dose of clomid should be around the time the test is out of your system, which would be about 3 wks after the last shot of TE I believe).

Also I probably wouldn't taper up or down. I'd just run the 500 mg all the way and then stop, since it is self tapering anyway.

I'm sure you'll gain well on that cycle. don't worry too much about the 200 lbs thing - you might make it, or you might not. As long as you get close and keep most of it, you'll be in business!

To achieve your goals you might want to bump up the dbol dose slightly, although those dosages are good. You'll just have a better chance of extreme results with more extreme dosages, it's as simple as that.

 

[gtaman]

Of course putting the two 17aa's in the same cycle could be hard on your liver. You can cut up without relying on Winny, just adjust diet, take thermogenics, etc.

You could always save the Winny for a different chemical experiment - say deca/winny or something - later on.