Experienced opinions please?

[jtvick1]

First real cycle: All steroids are Organon

Week 1-10: Sust 250mg Deca 200mg Nolva 20mg/ed
Week 11-12: Sust 250mg Nolva 20mg/ed
Week 13-15: Nolva 20mg/ed Colmid (see below)

Clomid: Day1 Day2 Day3 Day4 Day5 Day6 Day7

Week 13: 300mg 100mg 100mg 100mg 100mg 100mg 100mg
Week14: 100mg 100mg 100mg 100mg 100mg 100mg 100mg
Week15: 50mg 50mg 50mg 50mg 50mg 50mg 50mg

I realize these may be small dosages and that the Sust 250 may be better substituted with a Test E or Test C at 400mg/ew. Unfortunatly, this is the gear I have right now. Please let me know your opinions on this. All opinions welcome. I am not easily offended.

Even have Cabaser for the prolactin sides associated with Deca. Hopefully it wont be needed.

Thanks in advance to any advice! Later

 

[useakme]

I'd just run the deca the same length as the sust, and i'd probably go 500mg/sust and 400mg/deca per week but that's just me. Nothing wrong with going with a lower dose. Most people use too much anyway. PCT is what i would do.

 

[d_rson]

First real cycle: All steroids are Organon

Week 1-10: Sust 250mg Deca 200mg Nolva 20mg/ed
Week 11-12: Sust 250mg Nolva 20mg/ed
Week 13-15: Nolva 20mg/ed Colmid (see below)

Clomid: Day1 Day2 Day3 Day4 Day5 Day6 Day7

Week 13: 300mg 100mg 100mg 100mg 100mg 100mg 100mg
Week14: 100mg 100mg 100mg 100mg 100mg 100mg 100mg
Week15: 50mg 50mg 50mg 50mg 50mg 50mg 50mg

I realize these may be small dosages and that the Sust 250 may be better substituted with a Test E or Test C at 400mg/ew. Unfortunatly, this is the gear I have right now. Please let me know your opinions on this. All opinions welcome. I am not easily offended.

Even have Cabaser for the prolactin sides associated with Deca. Hopefully it wont be needed.

Thanks in advance to any advice! Later

Age and Body Specs? Training History? Training Routine? Diet?

First and foremost, 3 weeks of a "clomid and nolva only" pct after 10+ weeks of deca and test is not going to do it. I see other holes in this, but until we know specs I can't recommend.

 

[thelion2005]

I'm looking at your aas totals. You'll get growth and some sides. Look at this as a learning experience.
I like sust for the test p, but all test is ok.

Looks like a lot of effort into the pct. Why? I don't do pct at all because I want the baseline to move up. Sure ... I might only keep 1/2 my gains or maybe less. But they are there. And I have no limp problem even with deca.

Remember ... each body is different and you must learn yours. Go have some fun.

 

[thelion2005]

BTW ....
Welcome to the dark side. You are not natural now.

 

[RADAR]

I wpuld save the deca for later however i would like to see some stats before commenting further.


RADAR

 

[jtvick1]

6'-2"
220lbs
Muscular build with a little chub. Dont know exact BF%. BMI is 25-28
30 years old
Training for 15 years
ISSA certified personal trainer

Diet will consist of high protein from fish, chicken, tuna, and whey powder. Try to get at least 250 grams a day. Cant tolerate much more at this stage. Wish I could. Complex carbohydrates will make up most of the carbs (i.e. steel cut oatmeal mostly) Lots of fruits and vegetables (like mama said!)

I like to train with the basics. Lots of compound exercises (i.e. bench, dead lift, squat, sled, military press. Alternate rep ranges per week. 3-5, 8-12, 12-15. Light cardio done 3x/week. Try to keep heart rate below 130.

Some have said to wait on the deca and just to the sust. Any particular reason? Thought the deca may help with the bloated look, and add some quality gains as well. Maybe that is inaccurate.

Let me know if you need more info. Keep the good advice comin!

 

[needtogetaas]

To much going on for me to even want to look at.

 

[needtogetaas]

First real cycle: All steroids are Organon

Week 1-10: Sust 250mg [SIZE="7"[COLOR="Blue"]] Deca 200mg [/COLOR][/SIZE] Nolva 20mg/ed
Week 11-12: Sust 250mg Nolva 20mg/ed
Week 13-15: Nolva 20mg/ed Colmid (see below)

Clomid: Day1 Day2 Day3 Day4 Day5 Day6 Day7

Week 13: 300mg 100mg 100mg 100mg 100mg 100mg 100mg
Week14: 100mg 100mg 100mg 100mg 100mg 100mg 100mg
Week15: 50mg 50mg 50mg 50mg 50mg 50mg 50mg

I realize these may be small dosages and that the Sust 250 may be better substituted with a Test E or Test C at 400mg/ew. Unfortunatly, this is the gear I have right now. Please let me know your opinions on this. All opinions welcome. I am not easily offended.

Even have Cabaser for the prolactin sides associated with Deca. Hopefully it wont be needed.

Thanks in advance to any advice! Later

I would not do these two together though.

 

[RADAR]

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RADAR